AMD Shanghai/Deneb Review Thread

[flippin_waffles]

You know what the good thing here is though don't ya. If and when Deneb becomes a success, more and more people are going to be crossing over to AMD from Intel. So when people start telling their experiences, it should be good publicity. I've read hundreds of posts already, that say it's a better experience, and that was with the original Phenom. It seems to me, AMD are seriously pushing the platform idea. And I think it's a pretty good one at that. However, it may not turn out that way. lol But, i'd lay odds that it will.

Disclaimer:

I may have had a few too many...

[imsochobo]

Well...

What i think amd can win very much on is their game system, every single lan im at, there is some stupid idiot who have bought an laptop and just swipping in for a game or two, they copy the game, trying to start it, and starting to shout and swear out.

THIS LAPTOP WAS SUPPOSED TO BE F****N good and they go on, and i watch, ahh intel IGP, dont expect to do other than office and msn on that one

AMD make products which atleast can do "household" games like sims, sim city, and that with good graphics, ive personally tested the HD3300, and that was an good experience for an IGP to be!.

amd have pushed out a system called game, game ultra and so on.

this tells an stupid consumer: this can run old and mild new games.
or : this can run crysis!

their platforms can be a big hit, and it can make costumers understand what it can or what it cannot, try explaining the diffrent components and what they mean in terms of usage to an not so enlightened user.

then i can just say: GOOD LUCK.

but just that will take a long time before it will become an term for an "normal" person.

Amd with an complete platform can do just this, when games come with an label minimum requirements :
AMD game REV1 for instance.
REccomended AMD game REV3

would ease some conversations for me to say the least.

hope amd gets back in the game, more compotition, safer future for amd, and for us consumers when it comes to value for our beloved cash!

[qurious63ss]

You know what the good thing here is though don't ya. If and when Deneb becomes a success, more and more people are going to be crossing over to AMD from Intel. So when people start telling their experiences, it should be good publicity. I've read hundreds of posts already, that say it's a better experience, and that was with the original Phenom. It seems to me, AMD are seriously pushing the platform idea. And I think it's a pretty good one at that. However, it may not turn out that way. lol But, i'd lay odds that it will.

Disclaimer:

I may have had a few too many...

LOL!! A bit early ain't it? Anyways, don't forget that in order to get people to cross over from Intel to Amd then Phenom II needs to offer a definite reason to switch. It doesn't it. For someone who already owns AM2 then it makes sense simple as that but for those that don't it gets complicated.

[Blaber]

LOL!! A bit early ain't it? Anyways, don't forget that in order to get people to cross over from Intel to Amd then Phenom II needs to offer a definite reason to switch. It doesn't it. For someone who already owns AM2 then it makes sense simple as that but for those that don't it gets complicated.

I agree with you that if you right now have any Intel quad , then there's no reasons to switch unless you like to play with the new phenom II , but for any one building a new system , Phenom II providing as good performance and overclock ability, much much better power draw than Phenom1 (Could be better that COMPETITION , but no reviews till now on this) ,running really COOL as competing Intel products for a decent price AND OBVIOUSLY NOT TO END UP WITH A DEAD PLATFORM...Socket775, Phenom II specially the AM3 socket really looks good.

[qurious63ss]

I agree with you that if you right now have any Intel quad , then there's no reasons to switch unless you like to play with the new phenom II , but for any one building a new system , Phenom II providing as good performance and overclock ability, much much better power draw than Phenom1 (Could be better that COMPETITION , but no reviews till now on this) ,running really COOL as competing Intel products for a decent price AND OBVIOUSLY NOT TO END UP WITH A DEAD PLATFORM...Socket775, Phenom II specially the AM3 socket really looks good.

Only one problem, C2Q will either match or beat all the things you mention. Only thing left is upgradeability, but how important is that when it looks like it will take at least a new architecture from Amd to surpass Intel's performance.

[Blaber]

Only one problem, C2Q will either match or beat all the things you mention. Only thing left is upgradeability, but how important is that when it looks like it will take at least a new architecture from Amd to surpass Intel's performance.

Phenom II CLK/NB @ 3.7/2.25 Ghz Using DDRII, So how much of an improvement in scores one will see on PhenomII using DDR3 @ 1333 and Nb @ 2.7 Ghz where as there is nothing more that u can do to Intel quad to get more performance like U can't increase NB speed to gain performance , its already running DDR3..So as I said when building a new system going for a s775 dead platform is not really best thing to do.

[qurious63ss]

How much performance are we talking about 3-5%?? and that would be best case scenario.Like I said before, it will still take a new generation from Amd to beat C2Q so the 775 being dead is a moot point.

[QuietIce]

Just been testing out my 9950BE and it's doing well, though I admit I'm not very impressed with the voltage regulation on the M3A78-T. I guess I've been spoiled OC'ing A8N32's (8-phase power) for the past 2.5 years, I expect voltage to be spot on and stay there. The M3A32 (8+2) I've been using since April has been even more solid than the A8N32's.

FYI for anybody buying a newer AM2+ board - stick with 8+2 power and heat-sinked MOSFETs!

How much performance are we talking about 3-5%?? and that would be best case scenario.Like I said before, it will still take a new generation from Amd to beat C2Q so the 775 being dead is a moot point.

S-t-r-e-t-c-h ...

[flippin_waffles]

LOL!! A bit early ain't it?

Yes, but i'm still celebrating Christmas.

Anyway, it seems to me that the excitement mounting is going to make 2009 a good year. This doesn't even resemble the orginal Phenom launch. I'd bet AMD has a good stockpile of these spread around the world and they seem to be indicating they anticipate a fairly successful launch.