The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Grnfinger]

Try enabling the phase pull ins, that should get you a little more.

[Commander_HK47]

I did, However the system would not post after enablling them (3 per channel / 2 channels) system would not post. Ill be honest i don't know much about how the phase pull ins work(what needs to be increased if anything to get them to work).

[carepolice]

Have you run Vantage yet?
If so what did you get for a score running @4.0GHz?

Heres mine and it seems a tad low imo...

I afraid that this wont help any, but result of mine Q9550 @ 3.8Ghz

Just if you want to compare, My 4870 was 760/950 so i could say that nearly on stock setting

[Grnfinger]

ah I squeezed alittle more out of my card and broke 10000, looks like is time to go gpu shopping, I seem to be at the limit with this one...

[crosshairs]

subscribed.....gonna read this later...

[lohoutlaw]

Just wanted to share my little O/C.

Seeing and ready some what most of the end of this thread, i see other people are seeing the "auto" voltage setting is over-volting as well.

After a few adjustments i have seen some amazing O/C's with my E8600.

Mind you that this is on air and max load temps were 69c at 1.42v (bios)





http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=471360



So for the large photo

[ZenEffect]

ah I squeezed alittle more out of my card and broke 10000, looks like is time to go gpu shopping, I seem to be at the limit with this one...

what did you get your card clocks up to?

mine stabilized at 945/1080 (both cores/mem)

[OVERK|LL]

Tried BIOS 701. Was able to get my RAM to 925 with it.... Would only do 771 with 308. Probably sustained a bandwidth penalty though.

[Inpanic]

Hey guys. Nice FAQ BTW

Is it possible to flash a maximus extreme to rampage extreme? I believe its the same board only the DDR3 is the different. Thx for answer

[t_ski]

OK, I'm back with the new and improved settings. I want to get this up and running at 1066 for the ram (should be 5-5-5-15 according to SPD @2.1v), but every time I set it that way (only changing the divider and the timings above) I get a DET RAM hang. Suggestions??? Right now I am testing the NB strap @ 333 and the ram @ 962, 5-5-5-15. Boots OK, and bandwidth was about 7777 MB/s.

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 800
DRAM Command Rate : 2t
DRAM Timing Control: Manual 
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.41875 (1.4 actual)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto (1.616 actual)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.63 (1.648 actual)
DRAM Voltage : 2.04 (2.112 actual)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.52 (1.44 actual)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10 (1.12 actual)
Loadline Calibration : disabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto (1.056 actual)
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55 (1.584 actual)

Also, I am still looking for suggestions on a new PSU to power this board. Thermaltake 1200W is out, as I know the two I tried didn't work well with this board. Any other ideas?

EDIT:

Doing some more testing. I have set the strap to 266 and lowered the multi. I have manually set the PL @ 6. I have slowly increased the FSB up to 420 MHz, and then to 425 MHz 1 MHz at a time. I can boot at 424 MHz, which puts the ram at 1061. However, if I go up just 1 more MHz to 425, the ram goes to 1066, and the mobo does a "soft" power-off before rebooting. When it comes back up, I have the DET DRAM hang.

Why can't I get over the wall?

[Commander_HK47]

Has any one removed the IHS from the north bridge chipset and if so how?(without destroying the MB in the process).

[ChaosMinionX]

Hey guys. Nice FAQ BTW

Is it possible to flash a maximus extreme to rampage extreme? I believe its the same board only the DDR3 is the different. Thx for answer

I would imagine the same thing could be done for Extremes, as is done for the formulas.... Good time to be a Guinea Pig ey?

[Zucker2k]

Have you run Vantage yet?
If so what did you get for a score running @4.0GHz?

Heres mine and it seems a tad low imo...

I think it is; went to the microcenter yesterday for parts for a build and picked up a BFG NV GTX 260 OC. Here are my stock results @ 4Ghz (Q9550 @ 8.5 x 471).

[Inpanic]

Damn, i think Maximus extreme to Rampage extreme dont works perfect.... U cant config ur voltage settings... dunno why (i think the bios are different or so)

[Grnfinger]

Has any one removed the IHS from the north bridge chipset and if so how?(without destroying the MB in the process).

Its rather simple, remove the screws, pull on the NB ( you might have to take a screw driver and use the dimm slot for leverage and GENTLY pry up on the NB)
Once you remove it, settle in for a while you now get to remove the cement like tim.

[Grnfinger]

I think it is; went to the microcenter yesterday for parts for a build and picked up a BFG NV GTX 260 OC. Here are my stock results @ 4Ghz (Q9550 @ 8.5 x 471).

I'm going to get a 4870X2 2GB I think, cant go green as much as I would like to
I would like to toss another 3870X2 for crossfire, but dont want to make the investment if it wont pay off...

[Zucker2k]

I'm going to get a 4870X2 2GB I think, cant go green as much as I would like to
I would like to toss another 3870X2 for crossfire, but dont want to make the investment if it wont pay off...

Yeah, if I had the dough, I might have considered x2 on the red team, even though I think the 295 x2 is going to be the new bad boy for a bit. I'll be overclocking the card in the next few minutes, see what it's about.

[Grnfinger]

great this will give me chance to see what the card can do,
I got my 3870 to 900/1000 atm, will push it harder on Vantage after a few 3d06 runs, need a better HWBOT score

[Zucker2k]

great this will give me chance to see what the card can do,
I got my 3870 to 900/1000 atm, will push it harder on Vantage after a few 3d06 runs, need a better HWBOT score

First oc. in; vantage next, then bump cores/freq. again. Not looking bad so far for air; fan @ 75%.

No.1 on the ORB for similarly configured systems.

[xxDayTrader]

Hello again fellas. I'm new to this and kinda need to know where to go / what to work on next. This is my first oc so I'm doing a lot of reading and learning as I go. Here's my current setup and, at the risk of sounding like a 'tard, I guess I don't know what the next step is or what I should focus on from here to improve my system performance. I'll try to not ask too many questions along the way (plus, I know I learn better the more research I do).

9x400 BIOS Settings (24hr prime stable)

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400MHz
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2 800MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : (5)
RAS# to CAS# Delay : (5)
RAS# Precharge : (5)
RAS# ActivateTime : (15)
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
    CPL:  8
CPU Voltage : 1.54375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6
North Bridge Voltage :  1.55 
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40 
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration :  Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference :  Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF + 10mv
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5V 

NB LED Selection : NB Volt 
SB LED Selection : SB Volt 
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt 
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled 

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
C1E Suppport: DISABLED
Vanderpool:  DISABLED
Execute Disable Bit: DIABLED
CPU TM Function: DISABLED
Max CPUID Value Limit: DISABLED

[Zucker2k]

Hello again fellas. I'm new to this and kinda need to know where to go / what to work on next. This is my first oc so I'm doing a lot of reading and learning as I go. Here's my current setup and, at the risk of sounding like a 'tard, I guess I don't know what the next step is or what I should focus on from here to improve my system performance. I'll try to not ask too many questions along the way (plus, I know I learn better the more research I do).

Hmm, your statement is a bit vague because it seems you don't have a overclocking goal in mind, like a definite target? Systems can be improved always depending on how far you want to go to "improve" them. In short, what is your target overclock? Not bad at all, but certainly can be improved.

Vantage scores:

[xxDayTrader]

Hmm, your statement is a bit vague because it seems you don't have a overclocking goal in mind, like a definite target? Systems can be improved always depending on how far you want to go to "improve" them. In short, what is your target overclock? Not bad at all, but certainly can be improved.

Vantage scores:

Heh, I guess therein lies the problem. I don't have a "target" because I don't really know WTF I could/shoot shoot for. Perhaps that's where I could use some direction. I've basically hit a wall with my knowledge and don't know what I should be trying to accomplish.

..... I hope that makes some sense and.....THANKS for the reply (from one Michigander to another )

[Grnfinger]

Nice score m8

Heres my 3d06 @ 900/1000, going to push it further to see what I can get.

[Zucker2k]

Nice score m8

Thanks, you too. 22k is within reach. I'm at 1992 now 3dm 06, better watch out with that x2, I may be cranking things on the cpu side (8.5x500). I think I'm nearing shader limits as it won't do 1600 (3200) without artifacts. I may be able to squeeze a little bit more on the core and the memory. I wonder what the limits of these cards are, would be nice to compare my ocs to some others.

Heh, I guess therein lies the problem. I don't have a "target" because I don't really know WTF I could/shoot shoot for. Perhaps that's where I could use some direction. I've basically hit a wall with my knowledge and don't know what I should be trying to accomplish.

..... I hope that makes some sense and.....THANKS for the reply (from one Michigander to another )

Oh hi, mate! Didn't notice; weather is looking good today, don't know about the winds though. Anyway, generally speaking, it all depends on your hardware and cooling.

Best thing to do right now is to shoot for that 3.6ghz "standard" of the G0s. I suggest 8x450 for a nice speed boost.

There are many OC profiles on the first page you can use. I suggest you begin there and then ask for help if and when you ran into problems.

[t_ski]

Has any one removed the IHS from the north bridge chipset and if so how?(without destroying the MB in the process).

Its rather simple, remove the screws, pull on the NB ( you might have to take a screw driver and use the dimm slot for leverage and GENTLY pry up on the NB)
Once you remove it, settle in for a while you now get to remove the cement like tim.

Grnfinger, I think he's referring to the IHS on the NB, not the NB heatsink. To my knowledge, the only ones I saw that had been removed got killed in the process.

On, to my latest struggle...

When I set the FSB to 425, it hangs at DET DRAM. So I looked at the OCZ site for my ram, and it says 2.1v - 2.3v, but not to exceed 2.1v if it says so on the lable. Mine seemed perfectly stable at 2.1v, so I didn't think anything of it before. I looked at the stickers and it says 1066, 5-5-15 at 2.2v. So I bumped up the juice to 2.21v and it posted, but locked up on the post screen. I reset it and upped the voltage again to 2.3v, and it posted again, at least occasionally. Sometimes I would get a weird error saying "New CPU installed. Update the BIOS to take full advantage of the features for this CPU." Other times I got a Bootmgr error and Windows wouldn't load The CMOS wouldn't reset right away for that one either - it took a little trying

I was up to almost 2:00 am last night working on the FSB issue. I got tired of trying to figure out why it wouldn't hit 425 FSB and ran Prime at 9 x 424 (3.8 GHz). It went for over 9 hours error free.

Included for your viewing pleasure is a MemSet ss. Any suggestions for getting over the 1063 MHz wall would be appreciated.