**Unified** DFI LanParty UT 790FX-M2R-M2RS / Phenom /Data Base Thread**

[Oese]

Hey Campbell,

i actually tried 12/01 official now, long overnight clear cmos, load optimal defaults, brandnew fresh install of vista64 business, installed network drivers and same thing.

Now I can confirm really that there's something wrong with this bios with respect to vista and network.

i see the network ports during bootup, they get an irq assigned and so they are not defective or disabled, but they are not recognized in windows.. same picture in hw manager as i posted already, many many cpu-pci-bridges but no network... really strange.

And i think i figured it out why the one guy has it working under vista: He does not have a phenom but a dualcore. Thus, there are not that many cpu-pci bridge devices and thus, his system has enough ressources for the marvell lan chips to be recognized correctly...

this MUST be fixed to provide full functionality when the new phenoms come out.... I planned to get one early january if they are not too expensive...

edit: ok it does not seem to be x2 vs x4 related.. some ppl with x2 do experience that problem also..

[Brother Esau]

Well Olli I have no way to verify this on mt end so the best thing to do is start a thread about it on DFI Club and have others with the same problem post up so its just not you making a Beef about the bios. I agree they do need that fixed A.S.A.P

[Oese]

jep i'm already posted on DFI club but not in a dedicated thread. Will do that....

[mcmeat51]

Hello I have the following system

AMD 9950 BE (125watt I think) (FSB 232 with CnQ, CPU special add +.75) @3Ghz
DFI 790FX M2RS with bios A01
3GB Geil Black Dragon 1066 4 4 4 10 @793mhz
PowerColor 4870 850/1050
Thermaltake Armour case
Thermaltake Toughpower 700w
very good waterblock and twin 120mm rad
Idle with CnQ 13-16 degrees, load ~35


Here is the issue,

How can I get my Phenom over 3.1GHz,

Ive tried various ways upping the FSB or standard FSB and just increasing the multi, but it refuses to load into windows above 3.1Ghz. ANd ive tried upping the voltage to nearly 1.6V on the 'special add' bios setting.

I have the NB core and NB-HT link voltages increased 1 step.

Do I NEED to mess about with the CPU settings(P states etc, dont really understand them)

Do I need more chipset voltage, considering chipset and PWM run at ~50 degrees C.


Are there any settings in the bios that will limit my OCing headroom, Id like to think I have a good idea on how to OC, and when OCing the CPU I have downclocked my RAM etc.

any suggestions?

Oh yea and Ive tried 2 different boards and both give me high-pitch noise form the PWM's (I think), sometimes more audiable than others.

Thanks alot

[Oese]

the high pitched noise is normal.

i think your cpu is just not good enough... or try only 2gb of ram 3gb is odd and no dualchannel then as well....

[pixie]

I see some crazy voltages in some other AMD Athlon64 x2 OC threads, with people bumping past 1.5V... I wonder if anyone could actually use it at that voltage setting 24/7, or would it shorten component life by a LOT (say to less than 2 to 3 years)? I have mine at 1.456V but wondering if it's safer to go higher since my chip barely touches 50C during stress tests.

Also, many OC guides do not give very specific instructions as to how to increase voltages on things. They most often only say a few words at the very end of articles like "increase voltages for stability" and that's it! As if voltage increases were an afterthought of some kind. Isn't there a specific order to the chaos, like for example give volts to CPU first, then NB, then others? I don't want to continue to go around increasing voltages randomly like a headless chicken :P

I'm starting to looking for actually getting some help because I just could not get my 3.5GHz Windsor 5600+ OC stable (i.e. running things other than just 3DMark and games). I'll list specific settings later after I get this voltage thing straight.

Motherboard: DK 790FX-M2RS

[crazydiamond]

more volts! and when it pops,,, deneb

[Oese]

Bios R&D is working on the problem.

Bios 45nm problem is cared about now...

@ pixie: depending on your cooling, the 65nm x2 could stand 1,5v, but i would not try to give them 1,6... Be aware that with 3,5ghz you are on the higher end level that these chips can run at, so perhaps theres only better cooling and even more volts to have it stable if possible anyhow.

after all, i'll suppose try it and if it fails -> crazy has given the answer xD Perhaps it's stable at 1,52v or something, then you could leave it that way...

[OggeOJ]

Is it still worth the money? Im stuck with some sort of HP motherboard.

[Oese]

I would say yes.... DFI M2R + DENEB = Kick Ass Platform if you dont want to wait for new high end DDR3 DFI boards...

no kidding, i'm totally convinced that in terms of reliability and bios maturity as well as pwm section design no other board still comes close. Only drawback is the lack of sb750 and ACC, but with the upcoming phenom II that does not really matter...

[Brother Esau]

Bios 45nm problem is cared about now...

I had been checking in on the status of what was going on with the issue submitted on DFI Club , glad to see its getting sorted out.

As for the DFI LanParty UT 790FX-M2R I would say its superior to the current generation of AMD offerings from DFI. The only thing that I have bad to say about this board is the HDD performance on the SB600 Chipset is absolutely horid. But on my end I am not affected because I run a dedicated Raid Controller. I have had this Board since before it was available on the Market the first one I had for about a week and it was Flaky somewhat so I sent it in and got another which was actually delivered on Dec 13th my Birthday and have not had 1 Single issue with it period This Board is Rock Solid and stable like a Server Board the only issue is that I have been waiting on a worthy Processor to put in it

Personally I thing the only thing the SB750 brings to the table that is really neede is the much warranted and needed HDD Performance and USB Performance

My system runs 24/7 pretty much since I have built it!

[pixie]

Bios 45nm problem is cared about now...

@ pixie: depending on your cooling, the 65nm x2 could stand 1,5v, but i would not try to give them 1,6... Be aware that with 3,5ghz you are on the higher end level that these chips can run at, so perhaps theres only better cooling and even more volts to have it stable if possible anyhow.

after all, i'll suppose try it and if it fails -> crazy has given the answer xD Perhaps it's stable at 1,52v or something, then you could leave it that way...

I have a Zerotherm Zen for cooling Maybe I'll try 1.5V if all else fails.

OR... I could find a less demanding benchmark than Prime95, like Super Pi

Thanks Oese! ...and uh, thanks crazydiamond

[Oese]

good luck!

and @ be: my experience with this board is exactly the same i never experienced any oddities as they are unfortunately common even to high end hardware nowadays. and compared with other brands even bios and support are superb. not only best dfi board i ever had but best board ever. and much more lucky even because deneb will run on this

about hdd performance: i think these increased with the more mature biosses with updated raid bios versions. but i dont know really. with raid0, i'm totally pleased now even if using sb600. only thing is the problems with sata dvd drives... but that doesnt matter to me as i'm always a bit late in such things so that my ide dvd-rw is just right

of course, sometime we will need am3 boards from dfi which come close to this or are even better. and now with phenom II i think dfi will design something really well suited for their high class segment again with good bios support and everything just like in the dfi intel section... amd section and support was crippled somewhat during poor overall amd sales.. but we came along quite well if you compare with asus's biosses for example. they only run good if you allow them to have their own will, whereas dfi gives me to have the opportunity of full control (mostly) and thats what tweaking is about...

[SAB]

What is this issue with sata dvd drives u speak of?
I seem to have some flaky things going on and cant figure it out.
Im leaning towards bios issue but Im still unsure,what it may actually be.

[Oese]

dont know exactly, never had one, but it seems like random erratic things going on with sata optical drives.

if you experience such, simply disconnect that drive and see if things improve...

[possessed]

I would say yes.... DFI M2R + DENEB = Kick Ass Platform if you dont want to wait for new high end DDR3 DFI boards...

no kidding, i'm totally convinced that in terms of reliability and bios maturity as well as pwm section design no other board still comes close. Only drawback is the lack of sb750 and ACC, but with the upcoming phenom II that does not really matter...

Also my opinion, I had an asus m3a32-mvp deluxe before I got my dfi and I can say that the stability difference is really noticeable, and that pwm section is simply one of a kind in the amd field (ok you have the sapphire one that is the dfi rebranded)

[Oese]

(ok you have the sapphire one that it's the dfi rebranded)

'f course, thats same thing

[possessed]

new beta bios for the guys with lan problems

Date Code 2008-12-18
File R7LDC18.zip
Size 497 KB
Major Reasons of Change: The BIOS for improving onboard LAN detect error issue under Windows Vista.

link

[Oese]

cool will be tested tomorrow

[Oese]

very nice LAN Ports work now

further testing

[Rolle2k]

So this newer M2RS boards works perfectly fine with the latest bios? are there any drawbacks at all?
I now the M2R was buggy as hell for many people, but what about the S version? or even more the 790FXB-M2RSH?

[Oese]

m2r (sb600) WAS bugged with the first bios versions, its the stablest, most UNbugged board i ever had (since i oc..) now since bios 01/30...

m2rs (sb600) i dont know, its budget version of the m2r but rather good and not really bugged.

m2rsh (sb750, dont mix with the sb600 boards) is good too but bios still needs to mature is my impression..

@ be: bios passed the first stability tests on my side, i'm pleased. ram voltage needs one notch higher then with 05/05 (03/07 too needs more volts for me on ram then 05/05), but i didnt test if 05/05 is possibly more overvolting then the other versions...

[Brother Esau]

@ BE: bios passed the first stability tests on my side, i'm pleased. ram voltage needs one notch higher then with 05/05 (03/07 too needs more volts for me on ram then 05/05), but i didnt test if 05/05 is possibly more overvolting then the other versions...

Olli, get friends from Germany to test as well please Everyone needs to get together on this Beta Release and submit Feedback to DFI Bios Team so they can get a Proper Official Bios Candidate released

[SAB]

All is working good so far on Vista 32 bit.
LAN ports are working like they should.
Running stable on stock settings.

[SAB]

OK seems I'm running on two cylinders only?
Screenshot
Using 12/18/08 Beta Bios.
One good thing tho I somehow have a full 4gb of mem on 32 bit os

Oh ya u guys think its safe 4 me to use this bios still?