AMD Shanghai/Deneb Review Thread

[Calmatory]

That's not such a bad thing.

Multi cores, more cache, faster clocks, etc etc just encourage Microsoft to bloat their OS and programmers to use lazy high level code that's horribly inefficient.

If we were all still using 486s imagine how efficient things would be!

(I don't really mean it ;P)

Honestly, nowadays your average 3 GHz machine is struggling while it scrolls some text and pixels in browser. Back in the days things like scrollers and sprites were written in pure assembly and ran @ 120 FPS with 1,2 MHz CPU.


All hail bloat!

[LC_Nab]

Indeed it was a nice movie ^ ^and dont spank me with a stick : ( . Any ways lets get back to the deben reviews and lets stop the troll wars please , Id like more reviews and more benchies plus game scores too , And you have a good point after all in the end Intel needs AMD and AMD needs Intel . And to be hones I havent seen you say anything constructive about the new deneb chip Calmatory all ive seen is flames and Vs , and thats not constructive .

Still back to topic please !!!!! +1

[JohnJohn]

http://www.gameware.ir/phenom2/benchmarks/

[Caveman787]

can anyone verify those benches?

because they were viewed with skepticism before.

[roofsniper]

can anyone verify those benches?

because they were viewed with skepticism before.

i wish that italian guy was here because those are fake. they are scaled completely perfectly and each graph is pretty much the same. in real world situations it wouldn't be that way.

[Chad Boga]

http://www.gameware.ir/phenom2/benchmarks/

can anyone verify those benches?

because they were viewed with skepticism before.

Do people think these benchmarks are legit?

[flippin_waffles]

Some dude over on [H] forums just had a stray bird drop him off a PhII 945 AM3. Says a mobo is also inbound and can maybe post something...

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread....post1033477935

[G0ldBr1ck]

Do people think these benchmarks are legit?

I realy dont know, can you tell us some good reasoning why you think they are not?


I think they no longer have one if they realy did to begin with cause they let the smoke out.......tsk tsk...........

Some dude over on [H] forums just had a stray bird drop him off a PhII 945 AM3. Says a mobo is also inbound and can maybe post something...

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread....post1033477935

ewwww! I hope that dude is willing to spill the beans

[roofsniper]

Some dude over on [H] forums just had a stray bird drop him off a PhII 945 AM3. Says a mobo is also inbound and can maybe post something...

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread....post1033477935

ehhhh ill watch it but i don't think the phenom 945s are even ready yet. at best they would just have engineering samples.

[flippin_waffles]

Yeah I wondered about that. Probably ES, but I thought the 945 was only launching 1 month later than the 940 and 920 I thought. If yes, they might have a decent stock pile building now.

I also need a bird. Maybe i'll have to get a homing pigeon!

[roofsniper]

Yeah I wondered about that. Probably ES, but I thought the 945 was only launching 1 month later than the 940 and 920 I thought. If yes, they might have a decent stock pile building now.

I also need a bird. Maybe i'll have to get a homing pigeon!

the phenom 945 is listed for q2 2009.

[Ashraf]

Chad Boga is temporarily banned. This is not the place to troll and flamebait. Keep AMD vs Intel discussions or "AMD can't beat Intel" out of this thread.

Please stay on topic.

[flippin_waffles]

the phenom 945 is listed for q2 2009.

Ah, ok. Well perhaps a grain or two of salt is on the menu.

[roofsniper]

Ah, ok. Well perhaps a grain or two of salt is on the menu.

well i find it very odd. http://en.expreview.com/2008/11/17/n...rocessors.html look. all the other am3 cpus are listed for February. i can't see a reason why the 945 would come so late unless they were having problems with it. which wouldn't make much sense either since it should be the same as the other am3 chips but at a slightly higher clock which will already be achieved by the am2+ version by then.

[LC_Nab]

Ok its the 20th 2:45 am my time lets see those Benchies please

[The PyroPath]

According to Crisler(AMD Focus Group Chairman) over at rage3D NDA is not lifted today/yesterday but still the 8th of januari 2009...

[justapost]

testing Phenom II X4 940 on MSI 790GX

http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=4302

[Caveman787]

http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=4302

Thought this might be some new benches people havn't seen yet.

[charged3800z24]

well i find it very odd. http://en.expreview.com/2008/11/17/n...rocessors.html look. all the other am3 cpus are listed for February. i can't see a reason why the 945 would come so late unless they were having problems with it. which wouldn't make much sense either since it should be the same as the other am3 chips but at a slightly higher clock which will already be achieved by the am2+ version by then.

might be waiting on the boards to mature.

[crazydiamond]

http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=4302

Thought this might be some new benches people havn't seen yet.

looks nice! glad you posted that again because i saw the thread w/ just his stock scores but none of the oc's... can someone ask him about temps? i registered but cant post yet.

[Lightman]

Anyone noticed crazy HT and NB speeds??!!

2678MHz HTT / 2678MHZ NB / 4017MHz Core

I like them very much!

BTW it looks like I will be coming back to water cooling pretty soon

[coolice]

looks nice! glad you posted that again because i saw the thread w/ just his stock scores but none of the oc's... can someone ask him about temps? i registered but cant post yet.

the temp sensor seem faulty to me
when it was on Coolermaster v8 air cooler
stock vcore(1.35v), overdrive reading 22c?
bios reading 42v
so i poked a thermal probe to IHS and i got 32c

1.56v under water
in bios reading 44c

Anyone noticed crazy HT and NB speeds??!!

2678MHz HTT / 2678MHZ NB / 4017MHz Core

I like them very much!

BTW it looks like I will be coming back to water cooling pretty soon

27xx is capable

[charged3800z24]

Anyone noticed crazy HT and NB speeds??!!

2678MHz HTT / 2678MHZ NB / 4017MHz Core

I like them very much!

BTW it looks like I will be coming back to water cooling pretty soon

yes, can't wait to get mine...put it under my water...should be some fun....

[charged3800z24]

lol i was just messin,,, thanks for the results, keep em comin!

edit: ya i was also thinkin about getting some water because of how much these chips like cold and the fan on my vid card is so ing loud if i want to keep it under 80c lol - you guys think 1 swiftech mcr220, with only 2 push fans, and entire loop completely inside my mid tower would be able to keep them(cpu/gpu) cool? and if yes what about NB too

I have the Apogee H2O 220 kit all stock with rad and 2 fans. keeps my Phenom 9950 nice and cool, but add in a Vid card and the NB..I don't think mine would cut it. You might need to step it up a notch.

here is 3ghz stock v's and 3.3ghz 1.44v

[justapost]

the temp sensor seem faulty to me
when it was on Coolermaster v8 air cooler
stock vcore(1.35v), overdrive reading 22c?
bios reading 42v
so i poked a thermal probe to IHS and i got 32c

1.56v under water
in bios reading 44c


27xx is capable

Temps are only close to real temps around 55°C. Others are synthetic and may not scale correct.