The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[chawks2]

Just got off the phone with Asus.
Seems after 3 tries they agree my SE is borked. Waiting now on the email of options for replacement boards......

Unbelievable. They better be giving you an i7 iteration.

[Kiwi76]

xxDayTrader, try these to see if your RAM isn't holding you back. Changes are in Blue and bold.

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto 400MHz
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- Auto DDR2 850MHz
DRAM Command Rate : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CAS# Latency : 
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 
RAS# Precharge : 
RAS# ActivateTime : 
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 
Write Recovery Time : 
Read to Precharge Time : 

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 
Write to Read Delay (S) : 
Write to Read Delay (D) : 
Read to Read Delay (S) : 
Read to Read Delay (D) : 
Write to Write Delay (S) : 
Write to Write Delay (D) : 
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage :  1.45 
DRAM Voltage : 2.06
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40 
South Bridge Voltage : 1.50 (Unless that's a typo, that's way too high. This might be why Windows is BSODing. This should be ~1.05V)
Loadline Calibration :  Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference :  Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5V (This is the one that should be 1.5V, it's the South bridge PLL)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt 
SB LED Selection : SB Volt 
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt 
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

I suggest taking RAM out of the equation as a start. I'm not sure for CPU PLL or FSB Termination. Maybe try Auto, but maybe that's a bad idea. Definitely fix your South Bridge voltage though, and try taking the RAM out of the equation to narrow it down to the board or CPU.

[xxDayTrader]

^^^^ thanks. Will give that a shot!

Mike

[adrenaline7879]

got my G.Skill F2-8800 in yest thanks to grnfinger for the recommendation. popped them in last night and hit 1100 with ease. tonight i will get a chance to see what they can do.

[Grnfinger]

got my G.Skill F2-8800 in yest thanks to grnfinger for the recommendation. popped them in last night and hit 1100 with ease. tonight i will get a chance to see what they can do.

Glad they worked out for you.
Post your max MHz please, I have yet to see a kit go beyond 1140 ish

[askimo]

This is just frustrating. I can get 525FSB semi-stable, and by that I mean sometimes it will hang on DET DRAM, but I can press the restart button and it will post and run memtest which showed no errors, but if I go to 530 or above, nothing.

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Control : 7.5 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 
FSB Frequency : 533
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333 
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1080 
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual 
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.35V
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50V
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65V
DRAM Voltage : 2.20V
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40V
South Bridge Voltage : 1.100V
Loadline Calibration : Disabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.57x~0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50V

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

I have exactly the same issue with similar hardware. Above 525FSB nothing works

[Shiranui Gen-An]

I left NB and FSB volts on auto for a test to see if it would boot at 533FSB and it did, but when I checked the BIOS for the values NB was over 1.7v and VTT over 1.5V

[Diegis0n]

It always had an overvolt addiction, but this off the charts

What PSU?

[Shiranui Gen-An]

Asus Quattro 850W.

[ShawnTRD]

run prime blend and tell me what test it fails.

Hey Grnfinger,
I tried getting my Q6700 to a nice OC without OCing my RAM. So 3.20 passes OCCT, but 3.30 fails right away. The only thing I've changed for 3.30 is FSB Freq. from 320 to 330.









3.20 no problems...

[Grnfinger]

try upping the NB 1.39 is rather low for 4x1GB, try 1.45-1.47 and see what happens

[ShawnTRD]

Ok I the NB is now 1.46. I also bumped the FSBT voltage from 1.36 to 1.46, and CPU from 1.28 to 1.30. So far it's better. What temp should I make sure the cores and the NB stay below.

Field Value
Sensor Properties
Sensor Type W83627DHG + W83791D + ADT7475 + ADP3228 (ISA 290h, SMB 2Ch/2Eh/20h)
GPU Sensor Type Analog Devices ADT7473 (NV-I2C 2Eh)
Motherboard Name Asus Maximus Extreme / Maximus Formula / Rampage Formula
Chassis Intrusion Detected No

Temperatures
Motherboard 28 °C (82 °F)
CPU 37 °C (99 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 51 °C (124 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 51 °C (124 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 46 °C (115 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 47 °C (117 °F)
North Bridge 46 °C (115 °F)
South Bridge 35 °C (95 °F)
GPU 42 °C (108 °F)
GPU Diode 51 °C (124 °F)
GPU Memory 42 °C (108 °F)
GPU Ambient 39 °C (102 °F)
SAMSUNG HD103UJ 22 °C (72 °F)
WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 50 °C (122 °F)

Cooling Fans
CPU 2177 RPM
Chassis #2 1758 RPM
Chassis #3 2212 RPM
GPU 1582 RPM (60%)

Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.30 V
+3.3 V 3.23 V
+5 V 4.90 V
+12 V 12.10 V
+5 V Standby 4.92 V
FSB VTT 1.46 V
North Bridge Core 1.46 V
South Bridge Core 1.07 V
South Bridge PLL 1.52 V
DIMM 2.00 V
DIMM VTT 1.01 V
GPU Vcc 3.27 V

[ShawnTRD]

try upping the NB 1.39 is rather low for 4x1GB, try 1.45-1.47 and see what happens

failed again

[Zucker2k]

Shawn, try cpu gtl of 67. What temps are you getting? At 333 fsb you should be able to boot PL6. I'd enable static read, and aiclock to stronger. These boards love tight everything.

[ShawnTRD]

boot PL6? Whats that?

[Zucker2k]

boot PL6? Whats that?

Set performance level to 6.

[ShawnTRD]

Yeah that's what I thought it was. So I did that.

[ShawnTRD]

try upping the NB 1.39 is rather low for 4x1GB, try 1.45-1.47 and see what happens

Would I be much better off with a 2x2GB kit? If so whats the best for this board?

[Grnfinger]

Would I be much better off with a 2x2GB kit? If so whats the best for this board?

In my testing I have found that when running prime blend if you get errors at the following test adjusting these values correct the problem.
This is not law here ....its just my own findings.

1024 - increase VTT or vNB
896 or 448 - vNB
768, 512, 332 - VTT

As for 2x2GB kits, GSkill would be my firrst choice, Corsair Dominators and Mushkin Redlines.

[MJR]

I've given up trying to break 430 for now. Maybe once I get the h20 on the NB, I'l have some luck getting the volts down.

[Grnfinger]

45nm quads and X38 seem to hit a wall at about 425-435 FSB
Watercool that NB all you like it wont help you.

[xxDayTrader]

Ok fellas... I appreciate the help so far. For the first time I was able to get 8*450 stable for 24 hrs of Prime95. I feel like I REALLY had to crank my voltages though and wonder if I am pushing too hard. Below my BIOS settings are my prime tests (screen shot taken 23 hrs in or so) and my Real Temp + CPUZ screenshots.



Maximus Formula --> 0308 Rampage BIOS

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400MHz
PCI-E Frequency: 115
DRAM Frequency: DDR2 850MHz
DRAM Command Rate : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CAS# Latency : 
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 
RAS# Precharge : 
RAS# ActivateTime : 
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 
Write Recovery Time : 
Read to Precharge Time : 

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 
Write to Read Delay (S) : 
Write to Read Delay (D) : 
Read to Read Delay (S) : 
Read to Read Delay (D) : 
Write to Write Delay (S) : 
Write to Write Delay (D) : 
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : 10

CPU Voltage : 1.55625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.76
North Bridge Voltage :  1.65 
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.54
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05 
Loadline Calibration :  Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference :  Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt 
SB LED Selection : SB Volt 
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt 
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Everest (benchmark done while Prime95 was running)


Prime95, CPUZ and Real Temp - Is the max of 73 degrees in two of my cpu's cores reason for concern?



I assume my volt #'s REALLY need to come down but I kinda worked my way UP to them just to get a stable boot and Prime run so I don't really know where to start. -- Suggestions would be great.

Mike

[Grnfinger]

Ok fellas... I appreciate the help so far. For the first time I was able to get 8*450 stable for 24 hrs of Prime95. I feel like I REALLY had to crank my voltages though and wonder if I am pushing too hard. Below my BIOS settings are my prime tests (screen shot taken 23 hrs in or so) and my Real Temp + CPUZ screenshots.



Maximus Formula --> 0308 Rampage BIOS


Everest (benchmark done while Prime95 was running)


Prime95, CPUZ and Real Temp - Is the max of 73 degrees in two of my cpu's cores reason for concern?



I assume my volt #'s REALLY need to come down but I kinda worked my way UP to them just to get a stable boot and Prime run so I don't really know where to start. -- Suggestions would be great.

Mike

73C is a tad high, I would watch that ....

450x8 suggested setup
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 5
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : whatever your CPU needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.02
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Zucker2k]

Ok fellas... I appreciate the help so far. For the first time I was able to get 8*450 stable for 24 hrs of Prime95. I feel like I REALLY had to crank my voltages though and wonder if I am pushing too hard. Below my BIOS settings are my prime tests (screen shot taken 23 hrs in or so) and my Real Temp + CPUZ screenshots.

Mike

Transaction booster is too loose.

[xxDayTrader]

Transaction booster is too loose.

I can move the transaction booster down to 8 but at 7 I hang at DET_RAM. Any suggestions? Or, if I move DRAM Static Read Control to 'ENABLE' I hang at DET_RAM.