AMD Shanghai/Deneb Review Thread

[BertM]

i contacted 2 stores in holland, both didnt know about the 20th december and 1 sad today that it will be available beginning of januari.

[CntdwnToExtn]

Where does that Dec 20th NDA off came from? The most reliable site here told us to come back Jan 8th for their review.

hench my question mark on my post.

but on page 19 of this thread, Throwed mentioned about not respecting the NDA with the benches posted and thought it wasn't lifted until Friday.
SOF then quoted him quite annoyed because he wanted to show his benches but couldn't.

he didn't correct him about the date, so i figured it was 19th/20th for the NDA?

[LowRun]

Looks like a rumor mill production

[Macadamia]

Where does that Dec 20th NDA off came from? The most reliable site here told us to come back Jan 8th for their review.

Initialised/CyberpowerPC

[FlanK3r]

i found this, i mean, its not from Chicago or diferent presentation...

[Lastviking]

And this is a Intel Penryn's WR

And thats is with a ES also

[QuietIce]

And this is a Intel Penryn's WR

Looks like another ID10T error ...

[Throwed]

And this is a Intel Penryn's WR

The intel dumbasses never let up. THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT CORE 2 QUAD! I hope the admins keep a eye on IP's around here.

[gallag]

Looks like another ID10T error ...

The intel dumbasses never let up. THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT CORE 2 QUAD! I hope the admins keep a eye on IP's around here.

I assume he posted that to show that AMD now holds the highest oc on quad, But don't let that stop you guys from jumping on him and defending AMD

[Astennu]

Indeed i think he posted it for the clocks. Nice that AMD beated that. I wonder what we will see in the future 6,5-6,7 GHz maybe ?

[Lastviking]

I assume he posted that to show that AMD now holds the highest oc on quad, But don't let that stop you guys from jumping on him and defending AMD

+1

[informal]

I assume he posted that to show that AMD now holds the highest oc on quad, But don't let that stop you guys from jumping on him and defending AMD

That was my impression too,but i can't see his original post anymore.
Anyway,the Penryn OC he posted was done with only 1 core with ES.Oktabit fellows did it on a retail chip across all four cores,on a modded board.And they verified no CB

[biohead]

i found this, i mean, its not from Chicago or diferent presentation...

Rated FSB? It should say HT Link. Fake?

[QuietIce]

I assume he posted that to show that AMD now holds the highest oc on quad, But don't let that stop you guys from jumping on him and defending AMD

It's not a matter of "defending" AMD but this thread has been full of Intel spin and, quite frankly, I'm sick of seeing it. There are plenty of threads (or if there isn't anybody can make their own) comparing AMD and Intel.

But, yea, maybe I jumped the gun a little. At 0500 I still hadn't had my first cup.

Rated FSB? It should say HT Link. Fake?

A quirk of the Phenom II?
*goes off to find more Deneb CPU-Z posts*


Yep - Phenom II quirk ...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=426

[Zucker2k]

It's not a matter of "defending" AMD but this thread has been full of Intel spin and, quite frankly, I'm sick of seeing it. There are plenty of threads (or if there isn't anybody can make their own) comparing AMD and Intel.

But, yea, maybe I jumped the gun a little. At 0500 I still hadn't had my first cup.
A quirk of the Phenom II?
*goes off to find more Deneb CPU-Z posts*


Yep - Phenom II quirk ...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=426

And that's a cpu-z version 1.48. Maybe just trace your steps a few pages back and you'll have your answer. The truth is not hard to find, if you put some effort into it.

[Calmatory]

It's not a matter of "defending" AMD but this thread has been full of Intel spin and, quite frankly, I'm sick of seeing it. There are plenty of threads (or if there isn't anybody can make their own) comparing AMD and Intel.

But, yea, maybe I jumped the gun a little. At 0500 I still hadn't had my first cup.
A quirk of the Phenom II?
*goes off to find more Deneb CPU-Z posts*


Yep - Phenom II quirk ...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=426

No.

CPU-Z validator which generates the static image has only rated FSB, however the actual CPU-Z client has HT Link for AMD AM2 processors. That Chiphell screenshot shows the CPU-Z client, which shows Rated FSB instead of HT Link - what it should show.

That could mean that the pic was taken with Intel CPU and then just shopped it as a Deneb CPU-Z screenie. Most certainly a fake, considering that vCore is lower than 1.9 V
and Sampsa & others claim/were told that 1.95 V is needed for 6 GHz.

[CntdwnToExtn]

is this something too? the dot in the specification name?
or am i just

[biohead]

So you both think it's fake because of the "Rated FSB" label or am I reading your post wrong? I posted a link to another post which has TWO shots with the same label - I guess you thought they were fakes as well???

Here, I'll post it again and put arrows on it ...

vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv vvv

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

READ:

No.

CPU-Z validator which generates the static image has only rated FSB, however the actual CPU-Z client has HT Link for AMD AM2 processors. That Chiphell screenshot shows the CPU-Z client, which shows Rated FSB instead of HT Link - what it should show.

That could mean that the pic was taken with Intel CPU and then just shopped it as a Deneb CPU-Z screenie. Most certainly a fake, considering that vCore is lower than 1.9 V
and Sampsa & others claim/were told that 1.95 V is needed for 6 GHz.

Those two "shots" are CPU-Z validation shots, not actual shots of the program running.

[Calmatory]

READ:



Those two "shots" are CPU-Z validation shots, not actual shots of the program running.

My point exactly. Thank you.

Phenom has not beaten Core2Quad, period.

[QuietIce]

READ:



Those two "shots" are CPU-Z validation shots, not actual shots of the program running.

My bad *redface*
I'm still looking for another v1.49 Deneb SS (but my 9850 still shows up as HT Link in v1.49).


Edit:
Finally found one - it also shows "AMD Processor model unknown" in "Specification". I agree - it's a fake.

Trust me, I probably hate people who create fakes even more than most people do!!!
(But I'm also more cautious about calling other people liars.)

My point exactly. Thank you.

Phenom has not beaten Core2Quad, period.

I guess that depends on what you mean by "beaten". I don't know about you but with current economic conditions I can't afford even $500 for a CPU - $1000+ is definitely out ...

[LC_Nab]

My point exactly. Thank you.

Phenom has not beaten Core2Quad, period.

We shall see on the 20th ^ ^ "Never say never "

[roofsniper]

i found this, i mean, its not from Chicago or diferent presentation...

ehhhhhh looks fake to me.

[demonkevy666]

We shall see on the 20th ^ ^ "Never say never "

time to say up all night lol

[Oldguy932]

Does anyone know the 4 cores enabled record on Core 2 Quad? Because nobody has mentioned that the record on the other page was with a single core enabled and not all 4. Just a thought on it.

And I just finished pricing out a system with it to use with my vapo ls .

[Calmatory]

My bad *redface*
I'm still looking for another v1.49 Deneb SS (but my 9850 still shows up as HT Link in v1.49).


Edit:
Finally found one - it also shows "AMD Processor model unknown" in "Specification". I agree - it's a fake.

Trust me, I probably hate people who create fakes even more than most people do!!!
(But I'm also more cautious about calling other people liars.)


I guess that depends on what you mean by "beaten". I don't know about you but with current economic conditions I can't afford even $500 for a CPU - $1000+ is definitely out ...

Beaten as in CPU-Z record. E.g. "Wow heres the screenie! And heres the C2Q record! Look phenom beats best C2Q!!". What I mean is that Phenom has not beaten anything yet as the screenshot was/is obviously fake.