AMD Shanghai/Deneb Review Thread

[QuietIce]

I assume he posted that to show that AMD now holds the highest oc on quad, But don't let that stop you guys from jumping on him and defending AMD

It's not a matter of "defending" AMD but this thread has been full of Intel spin and, quite frankly, I'm sick of seeing it. There are plenty of threads (or if there isn't anybody can make their own) comparing AMD and Intel.

But, yea, maybe I jumped the gun a little. At 0500 I still hadn't had my first cup.

Rated FSB? It should say HT Link. Fake?

A quirk of the Phenom II?
*goes off to find more Deneb CPU-Z posts*


Yep - Phenom II quirk ...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=426

[Zucker2k]

It's not a matter of "defending" AMD but this thread has been full of Intel spin and, quite frankly, I'm sick of seeing it. There are plenty of threads (or if there isn't anybody can make their own) comparing AMD and Intel.

But, yea, maybe I jumped the gun a little. At 0500 I still hadn't had my first cup.
A quirk of the Phenom II?
*goes off to find more Deneb CPU-Z posts*


Yep - Phenom II quirk ...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=426

And that's a cpu-z version 1.48. Maybe just trace your steps a few pages back and you'll have your answer. The truth is not hard to find, if you put some effort into it.

[biohead]

So you both think it's fake because of the "Rated FSB" label or am I reading your post wrong? I posted a link to another post which has TWO shots with the same label - I guess you thought they were fakes as well???

Here, I'll post it again and put arrows on it ...

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

READ:

No.

CPU-Z validator which generates the static image has only rated FSB, however the actual CPU-Z client has HT Link for AMD AM2 processors. That Chiphell screenshot shows the CPU-Z client, which shows Rated FSB instead of HT Link - what it should show.

That could mean that the pic was taken with Intel CPU and then just shopped it as a Deneb CPU-Z screenie. Most certainly a fake, considering that vCore is lower than 1.9 V
and Sampsa & others claim/were told that 1.95 V is needed for 6 GHz.

Those two "shots" are CPU-Z validation shots, not actual shots of the program running.

[Calmatory]

READ:



Those two "shots" are CPU-Z validation shots, not actual shots of the program running.

My point exactly. Thank you.

Phenom has not beaten Core2Quad, period.

[LC_Nab]

My point exactly. Thank you.

Phenom has not beaten Core2Quad, period.

We shall see on the 20th ^ ^ "Never say never "

[demonkevy666]

We shall see on the 20th ^ ^ "Never say never "

time to say up all night lol

[Oldguy932]

Does anyone know the 4 cores enabled record on Core 2 Quad? Because nobody has mentioned that the record on the other page was with a single core enabled and not all 4. Just a thought on it.

And I just finished pricing out a system with it to use with my vapo ls .

[QuietIce]

READ:



Those two "shots" are CPU-Z validation shots, not actual shots of the program running.

My bad *redface*
I'm still looking for another v1.49 Deneb SS (but my 9850 still shows up as HT Link in v1.49).


Edit:
Finally found one - it also shows "AMD Processor model unknown" in "Specification". I agree - it's a fake.

Trust me, I probably hate people who create fakes even more than most people do!!!
(But I'm also more cautious about calling other people liars.)

My point exactly. Thank you.

Phenom has not beaten Core2Quad, period.

I guess that depends on what you mean by "beaten". I don't know about you but with current economic conditions I can't afford even $500 for a CPU - $1000+ is definitely out ...

[Calmatory]

My bad *redface*
I'm still looking for another v1.49 Deneb SS (but my 9850 still shows up as HT Link in v1.49).


Edit:
Finally found one - it also shows "AMD Processor model unknown" in "Specification". I agree - it's a fake.

Trust me, I probably hate people who create fakes even more than most people do!!!
(But I'm also more cautious about calling other people liars.)


I guess that depends on what you mean by "beaten". I don't know about you but with current economic conditions I can't afford even $500 for a CPU - $1000+ is definitely out ...

Beaten as in CPU-Z record. E.g. "Wow heres the screenie! And heres the C2Q record! Look phenom beats best C2Q!!". What I mean is that Phenom has not beaten anything yet as the screenshot was/is obviously fake.

[Throwed]

Beaten as in CPU-Z record. E.g. "Wow heres the screenie! And heres the C2Q record! Look phenom beats best C2Q!!". What I mean is that Phenom has not beaten anything yet as the screenshot was/is obviously fake.

Record? You're a funny guy. First of all, that screen shot means a hill of beans TBH. I and a few others here don't really trust things like that. Though most of us do trust the words of people like "Team Finland"(Sampsa and crew) and they reached 6.3Ghz so your point is moot! IIRC they even ran the Crysis demo at 6Ghz on a Deneb. Not sure if Intel has accomplished this milestone, but since you seem to favor Intel why don't you link us to something similar. Better yet, DON'T because this thread is NOT about Intel. Go start your own rant in the Intel section. FYI, the videos from the Chicago, Boston, and etc. AREN'T fake.


I'll never understand why people that favor Intel come to a thread in the AMD section to voice their opinions that NO ONE wants to hear. Talking loud and saying nothing sums their actions up.

[Calmatory]

Record? You're a funny guy. First of all, that screen shot means a hill of beans TBH. I and a few others here don't really trust things like that. Though most of us do trust the words of people like "Team Finland"(Sampsa and crew) and they reached 6.3Ghz so your point is moot! IIRC they even ran the Crysis demo at 6Ghz on a Deneb. Not sure if Intel has accomplished this milestone, but since you seem to favor Intel why don't you link us to something similar. Better yet, DON'T because this thread is NOT about Intel. Go start your own rant in the Intel section. FYI, the videos from the Chicago, Boston, and etc. AREN'T fake.


I'll never understand why people that favor Intel come to a thread in the AMD section to voice their opinions that NO ONE wants to hear. Talking loud and saying nothing sums their actions up.

Who the *** has been talking about the LN2 runs in the events except you? Why are you trying to put words into my mouth?

One valuable tip: Learn to read.

Look at this: http://bbs.chiphell.com/attachments/...4B0vamd7VO.jpg

Then look at this: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=612

Now, read this:

No.

CPU-Z validator which generates the static image has only rated FSB, however the actual CPU-Z client has HT Link for AMD AM2 processors. That Chiphell screenshot shows the CPU-Z client, which shows Rated FSB instead of HT Link - what it should show.

That could mean that the pic was taken with Intel CPU and then just shopped it as a Deneb CPU-Z screenie. Most certainly a fake, considering that vCore is lower than 1.9 V
and Sampsa & others claim/were told that 1.95 V is needed for 6 GHz.

All I've been saying is that the Chiphell pic is FAKE and AMD has not beaten Intel QuadCore MHz record. I think that it really hurts your feelings? Besides, even if PhII beats the MHz, the actual IPC advantage still makes Intel clear winner. Sad but true.

Ok, if you consider me Intel fanboy as I bust your dreams and beliefs and am running Intel platform then fine, but don't be disappointed when you wake to the reality and see Intel spanking AMD once again. Phenom II is no godsend.

[Calmatory]

It's not a matter of "defending" AMD but this thread has been full of Intel spin and, quite frankly, I'm sick of seeing it. There are plenty of threads (or if there isn't anybody can make their own) comparing AMD and Intel.

But, yea, maybe I jumped the gun a little. At 0500 I still hadn't had my first cup.
A quirk of the Phenom II?
*goes off to find more Deneb CPU-Z posts*


Yep - Phenom II quirk ...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=426

No.

CPU-Z validator which generates the static image has only rated FSB, however the actual CPU-Z client has HT Link for AMD AM2 processors. That Chiphell screenshot shows the CPU-Z client, which shows Rated FSB instead of HT Link - what it should show.

That could mean that the pic was taken with Intel CPU and then just shopped it as a Deneb CPU-Z screenie. Most certainly a fake, considering that vCore is lower than 1.9 V
and Sampsa & others claim/were told that 1.95 V is needed for 6 GHz.

[CntdwnToExtn]

is this something too? the dot in the specification name?
or am i just