OCZ talks about SSD

[Richard Dower]

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/15317-O...-CDFreaks.html

Tis a shame customers who bought V1/2 SSD had to beta test for OCZ's benefit

[RejZoR]

Thats why smart ppl never jump to completely new tech. Always wait a generation or two for them to iron out the bugs and problems.

[Shintai]

Thats why smart ppl never jump to completely new tech. Always wait a generation or two for them to iron out the bugs and problems.

Thats not true. It more depends on the company and quality from it.

[LowRun]

Thats why smart ppl never jump to completely new tech. Always wait a generation or two for them to iron out the bugs and problems.

Right, early adopters get burn very often.

[Tony]

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/15317-O...-CDFreaks.html

Tis a shame customers who bought V1/2 SSD had to beta test for OCZ's benefit

at the time of launch those drives were the best performance Vs price point we could do.

You have to remember the controllers on these drives take around 6 months to develop, hence issues we found with the 602 controller will be fixed with controllers that will be released around 6 months later.

Things take time...V2 is awesome on hardware raid as is Solid, i still don't have issues with the V1 in this laptop either.Many users do not have any issues and are pleased with the performance the drives offer for the price they pay...if i could have bought V2 30GB here for $50 each i would have bought 4 at least

Guys please remember you can't have the world and his dog from the getgo...its going to come in stages. SSD is very new technology even now.

[SAE]

Yep, and new technology has to mature. That's why i am still waiting for affordable, reliable and nevertheless performing ssds to get available.

[Levish]

bashing ocz's for having the same problems every other manuf with that controller has is olde imo

[Richard Dower]

I agree Levish, but it's hard when you're an end user and bought one...

[Praz]

I agree Levish, but it's hard when you're an end user and bought one...

So how many OCZ SSD drives did you have problems with?

[Kasparz]

Tis a shame customers who bought V1/2 SSD had to beta test for OCZ's benefit

Says guy who has motherboard with flashed alpha bios and MS Vista with SP2 Beta...
I think there is people imagination, not SSD to blame. This is technology to go, and people who bought SSD are supporting new technology. Not sitting on bootable win2.0 from floppy and 286 bought in craigslist at late 80'.
Customers i know who bought SSD's haven't had single problem. Lots of those SSD's have same internals as OCZ SSD's have.

[Tony]

We moved on, Vertex is fast new replacement for budget series is in my laptop here and again is fast aslo. We are doing our best to offer drives that are based around performance/cost, bang for buck etc...

Overall SSD is getting better...now we just need raid cards with faster IO processors LOL...

[FischOderAal]

We moved on, Vertex is fast

I'm eagerly waiting for that one Might be my first SSD and replace the good 'ole 60 GB 5400 rpm 2,5" drive in my MacBook.

[m^2]

Thats why smart ppl never jump to completely new tech. Always wait a generation or two for them to iron out the bugs and problems.

It was a new technology 10 years ago.

[cegras]

Are you saying that a raid controller such as intel's SB will mask the issues with current SSD's?

[alfaunits]

We moved on, Vertex is fast new replacement for budget series is in my laptop here and again is fast aslo. We are doing our best to offer drives that are based around performance/cost, bang for buck etc...

Gimme some proof it's on par with X25-M, and I'll order 8. (darn international shipping prices...)

[dengyong]

at the time of launch those drives were the best performance Vs price point we could do.

You have to remember the controllers on these drives take around 6 months to develop, hence issues we found with the 602 controller will be fixed with controllers that will be released around 6 months later.

Things take time...V2 is awesome on hardware raid as is Solid, i still don't have issues with the V1 in this laptop either.Many users do not have any issues and are pleased with the performance the drives offer for the price they pay...if i could have bought V2 30GB here for $50 each i would have bought 4 at least

Guys please remember you can't have the world and his dog from the getgo...its going to come in stages. SSD is very new technology even now.

You make it sound like ocz sent the product to market with zero testing.

Will ocz test the new drives before marketing or will it be up to the customer again ?

[Levish]

I agree Levish, but it's hard when you're an end user and bought one...

I never buy new tech without research, i knew what i was getting into when I ordered mine and thats why i only used it for things where random write rate is moot.

If I cared I would have gotten a caching controller, granted I understand most people expect them to be plug and play but no matter how long SSD's have been on the market they haven't been common in the mainstream.

OCZ's prices put them into attainable range, are we to fault OCZ that normal people bought them thinking they'd be plug and play or should we fault them for buying new tech without knowing what they were getting into?

[FischOderAal]

Are you saying that a raid controller such as intel's SB will mask the issues with current SSD's?

Not Intel's SBs, but a good RAID-Controller with onboard RAM will do (but they ain't cheap). IIrc such controllers often cache data and sort it before it's being read/writen so you get a sequential access. SSDs have great sequential write/read performance but they lack performance when the access is random.

[roofsniper]

Thats why smart ppl never jump to completely new tech. Always wait a generation or two for them to iron out the bugs and problems.

yea i have been watching ssds for awhile now. im hopping that the OCZ V3 series will turn out good then i might finally get one.

[STaRGaZeR]

OCZ's prices put them into attainable range, are we to fault OCZ that normal people bought them thinking they'd be plug and play or should we fault them for buying new tech without knowing what they were getting into?

OCZ of course. The Core series are aimed to the masses, and the masses are in most cases stupid. Knowing that target they chose to use that stupidity combined with marketing as a weapon to make money. If they were targeting another market, it would have been an entirely different situation. This is 100% normal in business, but what it's not acceptable are the excuses and the lack of sincerity when the product fails and OCZ has to respond.

[highoctane]

Nothing is perfect, look at all the firmware and bios updates that are constantly addressing issues on seasoned hardware and constant driver updates to fix problems.

Hell can anybody name any piece of hardware that only has one revision since release.

[Biker]

We moved on, Vertex is fast new replacement for budget series is in my laptop here and again is fast aslo. We are doing our best to offer drives that are based around performance/cost, bang for buck etc...

Overall SSD is getting better...now we just need raid cards with faster IO processors LOL...

Any news on a release date for the Vertex series Tony?

I am definitley interested in grabbing some

[FZ1]

Any news on a release date for the Vertex series Tony?

I am definitley interested in grabbing some

You and a bunch of others. OCZ currently has an NDA on these drives so release dates are still not available yet but the official word so far is "Limited availability before end of the year.. more widespread in January".

I've been keeping an eye out since the announcement. I'm not worried about waiting for the technology to mature, I think these will meet my needs nicely. In 6 mos they will be better and cheaper so it would be a relatively cheap and easy upgrade (for me anyway).

*edit* a few e-tailers have them listed but out of stock. Prices are (expectedly) a fair amount above MSRP.

[vengance_01]

You can't blame OCZ for the controller issues as nearly all SSD drives used this controller. I look forward to seeing what SSD can do. But we need new I/O designs to take advantage. For the home user random access and random read and writes with small and large files are were need the most performance. But even OS's need to be tweaked for SSD. SSDs will catch on.

[XS Janus]

"new replacement for budget series is in my laptop here and again is fast aslo.

So there will be a new budget series as well?