@iocedmyself; thanks for everything. I just saw something I thought I might bring up. I just wish some on these forums have the objectivity you've just demonstrated. I'm not here to bash any cpu, or manufacturer, just to point out the facts as I see it. Kudos fr your efforts; this is how peeps make names for themselves, by showing us the early figures, though admittedly, even these would improve over time as process matures.