AMD Phenom II and Dragon Preview Event - Invite Only

[chew*]

i was hoping for 4Ghz on air, but the on air oc record in chicago was 3.8Ghz. the heatsink they use was huge. do you know the name of that heatsink? i never use watercooling and probably will never use it, so i'm aiming for 3.8-40Gzh on good air cooling. i think it'll be doable.

Macci did no air results as he was flying solo tonight and trying to run 2 systems at once on LN2.

I easily managed 3.7 on stock cooler air with quakewars running @ 1.45v. I'm quite sure had I had axcess to the bios I could have gotten more and would have been able to Tweak for performance however that was not an option.

I forget what brand cooler they had on the bench next to macci, he even said what it was , I know it wasn't the TRUE 120.

Me personally I will be dusting off all 3 of my phase units and ordering socket adapters for my 2 machs I will use my -50c liquid frostbyte chiller for video because they ( vid cards ) still unfortunately bug out and i have more control of temps with it.

[EnJoY]

First and foremost, it was great meeting those of you who attended the event tonight. Chew and I both spent some time overclocking a couple of Phenom II systems using overdrive and I have to say I was fairly impressed. One system we had did 3.7 with less than 1.5v on stock cooler...and as he said, temps were very low (around 45c under load).

Chew did a great job recapping the event already, so I won't ramble and repeat what he said, but a couple things. AMD seems very very serious this time around in regards to regaining the enthusiast thrown from Intel. Their mission is not only to offer fun, highly overclockable systems with very comparable performance to Core i7, but all at a fraction of the cost.

Macci did a great job at the show and was awesome to finally meet in person and have a conversation with. We discussed many of the minute details about Phenom II and reminisced about old times with S939.

Matt and Michelle from AMD marketing were both extremely helpful and also great to talk to. Both had clearly been involved with Phenom/Phenom II since the conception and had a lot of great inside stories for me regarding it's development process. One such story was about the discovery that the cold bug had been abolished by one of their lab engineers. The excitement and relief were both palpable in Matt's tone when he described the moment when he first heard this; again illustrating the serious effort AMD had been putting into Phenom II to improve it from it's successor.

Chew and I both did a small video interview individually (I guess you'd call it that) that you may see clips from at some point in the near future. It was simply regarding our thoughts on the presentation as a whole. Both of us were impressed and our comments certainly reflected this.

Lastly, it's important to mention that in the Core i7 965 system vs Phenom II 940 BE Crysis comparison, I was able to verify that both systems were running the exact same graphical settings, with the same cards. Phenom II had 4GB of ram, dual channel while the Core i7 had 3GB in triple channel on an X58 Intel reference board. The Phenom II had higher frame rates throughout the majority of the gameplay.

All in all, awesome night with some great swag given away by AMD. Thanks so much for having us guys.

[Halk]

Thanks for the updates folks and I'm glad you enjoyed yourselves.

Chew and I both did a small video interview individually (I guess you'd call it that) that you may see clips from at some point in the near future.

I don't think I'll watch that. In my head chew is a cartoon character (see his avatar) so I don't think I want reality to shatter that.

[chew*]

Haha that avatar is a dutch power cow getting owned by xs in a crunching event

[Halk]

Haha that avatar is a dutch power cow getting owned by xs in a crunching event

Well, in my head it's you. And your teeth are damaged because you've been chewing things, like your spanners for arms and legs.

[ubuntu83]

Lastly, it's important to mention that in the Core i7 965 system vs Phenom II 940 BE Crysis comparison, I was able to verify that both systems were running the exact same graphical settings, with the same cards. Phenom II had 4GB of ram, dual channel while the Core i7 had 3GB in triple channel on an X58 Intel reference board. The Phenom II had higher frame rates throughout the majority of the gameplay.

Thanks for the info you and chew provided specially this piece of info about performance.

[tictac]

First and foremost, it was great meeting those of you who attended the event tonight. Chew and I both spent some time overclocking a couple of Phenom II systems using overdrive and I have to say I was fairly impressed. One system we had did 3.7 with less than 1.5v on stock cooler...and as he said, temps were very low (around 45c under load).

Chew did a great job recapping the event already, so I won't ramble and repeat what he said, but a couple things. AMD seems very very serious this time around in regards to regaining the enthusiast thrown from Intel. Their mission is not only to offer fun, highly overclockable systems with very comparable performance to Core i7, but all at a fraction of the cost.

Macci did a great job at the show and was awesome to finally meet in person and have a conversation with. We discussed many of the minute details about Phenom II and reminisced about old times with S939.

Matt and Michelle from AMD marketing were both extremely helpful and also great to talk to. Both had clearly been involved with Phenom/Phenom II since the conception and had a lot of great inside stories for me regarding it's development process. One such story was about the discovery that the cold bug had been abolished by one of their lab engineers. The excitement and relief were both palpable in Matt's tone when he described the moment when he first heard this; again illustrating the serious effort AMD had been putting into Phenom II to improve it from it's successor.

Chew and I both did a small video interview individually (I guess you'd call it that) that you may see clips from at some point in the near future. It was simply regarding our thoughts on the presentation as a whole. Both of us were impressed and our comments certainly reflected this.

Lastly, it's important to mention that in the Core i7 965 system vs Phenom II 940 BE Crysis comparison, I was able to verify that both systems were running the exact same graphical settings, with the same cards. Phenom II had 4GB of ram, dual channel while the Core i7 had 3GB in triple channel on an X58 Intel reference board. The Phenom II had higher frame rates throughout the majority of the gameplay.

All in all, awesome night with some great swag given away by AMD. Thanks so much for having us guys.

If they used to said Phenom I is a failure...

then...

Phenom II is the madness...

[Lightman]

Many thanks for info guys!!

I can't wait for new PhII to hit the shops!

BTW, EnJoY can you tell at what resolutions Crysis comparison was ran? Thanks!

[EnJoY]

Many thanks for info guys!!

I can't wait for new PhII to hit the shops!

BTW, EnJoY can you tell at what resolutions Crysis comparison was ran? Thanks!

1900x1080 on a (40"?) LCD TV. One per system, side by side. 8x AA. 4870 1GB cards in both systems.

Btw, chew...any idea where the pictures and videos are going to be posted from the event?

[chew*]

1900x1080 on a (40"?) LCD TV. One per system, side by side. 8x AA. 4870 1GB cards in both systems.

Btw, chew...any idea where the pictures and videos are going to be posted from the event?

I think they were going to update it here but its the weekend and these guys are probably pooped from traveling all week.

http://www.mogulus.com/amdunprocessed

[Raybo]

I think they were going to update it here but its the weekend and these guys are probably pooped from traveling all week.

http://www.mogulus.com/amdunprocessed

You have been a big help in the past chew*, now you are continuing to do great work!

Thanks for sticking to your guns.

Ray

[Jazzman]

.....Lastly, it's important to mention that in the Core i7 965 system vs Phenom II 940 BE Crysis comparison, I was able to verify that both systems were running the exact same graphical settings, with the same cards. Phenom II had 4GB of ram, dual channel while the Core i7 had 3GB in triple channel on an X58 Intel reference board. The Phenom II had higher frame rates throughout the majority of the gameplay.

I believe the above comparison was run at a resolution of 1900x1080. What I can't understand is how the Phenom II runing a dual channel system could possibly beat the i7. Gosh has argued that AMD in general has a leg in bandwidth but his comments caused a thread to be locked down. I don't know what to think ... If the comparison result is true what could possibly account for this?

[Slovnaft]

I believe the above comparison was run at a resolution of 1900x1080. What I can't understand is how the Phenom II runing a dual channel system could possibly beat the i7. Gosh has argued that AMD in general has a leg in bandwidth but his comments caused a thread to be locked down. I don't know what to think ... If the comparison result is true what could possibly account for this?

doesn't AMD have some kind of hybrid crossfire with the onboard gpu?
so the amd setup has 4870+790gx (i think it's a 3 series chip?)
i didn't really get to this demo so i can't comment. I was too busy with the phase unit they had set up! was able to do 4.7-.8 at 1.45v around -48 , seems these chips will love cold.

a great time was had by all and it was a lot of fun meeting you guys.

[charged3800z24]

doesn't AMD have some kind of hybrid crossfire with the onboard gpu?
so the amd setup has 4870+790gx (i think it's a 3 series chip?)
i didn't really get to this demo so i can't comment. I was too busy with the phase unit they had set up! was able to do 4.7-.8 at 1.45v around -48 , seems these chips will love cold.

a great time was had by all and it was a lot of fun meeting you guys.

Hibrid only works on low end 3000 series GPU's...Trust me, It wasn't even an option with my 790GX board and the 4850....

[roofsniper]

doesn't AMD have some kind of hybrid crossfire with the onboard gpu?
so the amd setup has 4870+790gx (i think it's a 3 series chip?)
i didn't really get to this demo so i can't comment. I was too busy with the phase unit they had set up! was able to do 4.7-.8 at 1.45v around -48 , seems these chips will love cold.

a great time was had by all and it was a lot of fun meeting you guys.

i wish you could do hybrid crossfire with a 4870. im still waiting for the day that you can xfire a 3870 and a 4870. its probably way too late for that but there was hope in the past.

[Dami3n]

i wish you could do hybrid crossfire with a 4870.

I want that too, but not for the performance boost. I want a chipset with igp that can put my 4870 in stand by mode in 2d, using only the integrated chip. Would be great for power consumption and temperatures.

[charged3800z24]

I believe the above comparison was run at a resolution of 1900x1080. What I can't understand is how the Phenom II runing a dual channel system could possibly beat the i7. Gosh has argued that AMD in general has a leg in bandwidth but his comments caused a thread to be locked down. I don't know what to think ... If the comparison result is true what could possibly account for this?

I ran the CPU bench mark several times and noticed it is only using max 50% of the Phenom I have. So it can't be scaling ...maybe 4870 and 790GX / 790FX and Phenom II (Dragon) actually run like a be-atch together...I dunno