"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[Mumid]

Only one way to solve it lads,

1) power off (pull the power cord)
2) remove the 2 bios (plz keep an eye on how to place them) chips : the pc boots from the right hand one so 1611 pull that one first and put aside
3) put the one on the left on the right hand side
4) Boot Pc and enter Bios
a) either you can continue to use this chip and flash it with eg 1406 or
b) you can open EZ flash to HOTFLASH the 1611 chip (that used to be on the right hand side) continue to step 5
5) no fear while the pc is running (in EZ flash tool) : pull gently the bios chip and replace it with the 1611 chip version
6) continue to flash 1406 or bios of preference
7) 1611 is reflashed with bios of preference

I just did this as the Asusupdate tool gave me some warning of it not being the correct eeprom and the above method worked fab ( I got one 0803 and one 1406 now )

Just make sure when pulling the bios chips that you don't use too much force as the pins bend easily (luckily they don't break rapidly)

Thanks for the solution sir.

You just need an older version of afudos don't you?! I've got one knocking around I use to do all the flashes on my p5wdh.

Can you upload it somewhere so we can try it? Cheers

[x3mgamer]

carepolice your setup is holding for now, the warmest core doesnt go over 60 now and prime crashed after 5 mins, cpu pll was 1.52 and fsb termination 1.14

[carepolice]

carepolice your setup is holding for now, the warmest core doesnt go over 60 now and prime crashed after 5 mins, cpu pll was 1.52 and fsb termination 1.14

Okey, it clearly needs increase on VCore

+ try

FSB Termination: 1.24
NB: 1.26
vPLL: 1.54

[gaddster]

Now I'm certain that afudos is generic so you should be able to use the one I do. Put it here and it's version 1.19 I believe

[MarkJohnson]

Only one way to solve it lads,

1) power off (pull the power cord)
2) remove the 2 bios (plz keep an eye on how to place them) chips : the pc boots from the right hand one so 1611 pull that one first and put aside
3) put the one on the left on the right hand side
4) Boot Pc and enter Bios
a) either you can continue to use this chip and flash it with eg 1406 or
b) you can open EZ flash to HOTFLASH the 1611 chip (that used to be on the right hand side) continue to step 5
5) no fear while the pc is running (in EZ flash tool) : pull gently the bios chip and replace it with the 1611 chip version
6) continue to flash 1406 or bios of preference
7) 1611 is reflashed with bios of preference

I just did this as the Asusupdate tool gave me some warning of it not being the correct eeprom and the above method worked fab ( I got one 0803 and one 1406 now )

Just make sure when pulling the bios chips that you don't use too much force as the pins bend easily (luckily they don't break rapidly)

It seems the 1611 needs a special engineering afudos file. The guys at the Asus forum have found it.

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...age=2&count=15

Post by na

*** SOLUTION FOUND FOR P5Q BIOS DOWNGRADE ***

hey Mark,

I did try clearing the CMOS a dozen times all different ways (bios, afudos /pcn, jumper/battery etc) to no avail.

I tried the afudos that came on the CD, which complained about the bios being too old (1406). I tried v2.07 which failed with a message of "main BIOS checksum is bad". For anybody who needs to downgrade in the future, this link is the key - this SPECIFIC afudos binary, some sort of engineering version that will allow downgrades (see last post):

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/24...downgrade-bios

also found it afterwards in a user post here:

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

Why can't asus give this information out themselves instead of users wasting time trying to figure out what's wrong? I can say that my next mainboard will not be an asus.

Post by Randy

Having restored the 1406 bios as described above, I am able to use EZ Flash to downgrade to earlier bioses. (I just tried this because I'm not sure that my 1406 restore was completely successful.) It seems likely that there is something in 1611 that prevents the normal bios tools (EZ Flash and standard AFUDOS variants) from doing downgrades.

Hope this helps someone.
-=Mark=-

[gaddster]

Just to add the one I use and attached above will let me downgrade on the p5wdh from the latest bios way back to the early ones.

[Mumid]

Now I'm certain that afudos is generic so you should be able to use the one I do. Put it here and it's version 1.19 I believe

Thanks anyway mate.

It seems the 1611 needs a special engineering afudos file. The guys at the Asus forum have found it.

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...age=2&count=15

Post by na


Post by Randy


Hope this helps someone.
-=Mark=-

Thanks mate. I was already using afu236u.exe before but it wasnt working but the afudos.exe you linked works fine. Good work

[Leeghoofd]

Nice find lads, bit less risky then my suggestion, will grab that afudos too thx

[xaver]

how to flash older bios versions:

I had a same problem, and i had that problem two years ago with P5B deluxe, it wont update older bioses

Solution:
I try it and it works, downgraded bios form 1611 to 1406 without problems.
Use older versions of Asus Update utility. It is windows update utilty and (i know) lots of people dosent like to flash in Win but its the only precedure i know.
http://rapidshare.com/files/172784334/AsusUpdt61002.zip

If you have Win64bit use this on your own resposibility. I know of cuple of cases (all on 64bit) that Asus Update utility messesup the bios.

Precedure is same .. in drop menu coose "options", and check "bios downgradeable", then choose file and flash

[x3mgamer]

Okey, it clearly needs increase on VCore

+ try

FSB Termination: 1.24
NB: 1.26
vPLL: 1.54

ok vcore was at 1.18125 and everything else as u suggested,
now some 10 mins into the test the rig became unresponsive, my computer took forever to open and it never did and firefox just turned whitish and i couldnt press anything, i couldnt even turn off prime and it was running for more than 15 mins, i had to reset manually,

i should point out this system unsresponsive thing has been bothering me for 2 days now even at default 2.83 clock, since ive changed the sata mode to ahci following a registry hack, ill try to set sata mode to ide again and see if i take care of it, ive also taken out the jumper which limited the hdd to 1.5 gbit operation, i dont think the lack of jumper causes this

update:

hacked registry again and changed sata mode to Enhanced IDE again in bios, prime 95 ran for 10 mins and crashed wow

[xaver]

just found this:

@Grfinger (in Asus P5Q deluxe thread):
Make your usb drive bootable and load AFUDOS use the /pbnc /n switches and it will flash

[Brian75]

Q9450 guys, I need your help. I've been following all of the stable settings posted and I believe I am VERY close to stability, but would like some advice on what to adjust to:

1) Get Prime 95 Blend stable
2) Lower my vcore a bit

I also want to note that I did passed Intel Burn Test (Linpack) with maximum stress with 10 passes, but still failed Prime 95 blend (only CPU ID 3) around 5-7 minutes.

When testing with only small FFTs for pure CPU stability in Prime 95 with lower vcore voltage, CPU ID 3 is always the one that fails.

I'm guessing this where I'll need to do some GTL adjustments.

Here are my current settings:

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-901
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information : 5-5-5-18-3-54-6-3

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information : 8-3-5-4-6-4-6

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information : 14-5-1-6-6

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO



CPU Voltage: 1.36875
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

Other system specs:
Asus P5Q-E
OCZ Platinum PC8000 2x2 GB
True 120 w/ Push/Pull

[Big Lar]

Q9450 guys, I need your help. I've been following all of the stable settings posted and I believe I am VERY close to stability, but would like some advice on what to adjust to:

1) Get Prime 95 Blend stable
2) Lower my vcore a bit

I also want to note that I did passed Intel Burn Test (Linpack) with maximum stress with 10 passes, but still failed Prime 95 blend (only CPU ID 3) around 5-7 minutes.

When testing with only small FFTs for pure CPU stability in Prime 95 with lower vcore voltage, CPU ID 3 is always the one that fails.

I'm guessing this where I'll need to do some GTL adjustments.

Here are my current settings:

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-901
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information : 5-5-5-18-3-54-6-3

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information : 8-3-5-4-6-4-6

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information : 14-5-1-6-6

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO (Try Disabled)
DRAM Read Training: AUTO (Disabled)
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO (Play with this/Moderate)
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO (Try 10 for 1:1 once cpu's stable)



CPU Voltage: 1.36875
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO (Adjust up/ 0.675)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized (Try Performance/Compatible)

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

Other system specs:
Asus P5Q-E
OCZ Platinum PC8000 2x2 GB
True 120 w/ Push/Pull

Try what I changed 1 by 1 tho to see if 1 or the other helps. GTL's help quite a bit. May want to try setting both of the cpu gtl's.

Larry

[mac_69]

My templates in my sig, its an Q9450 and needs high Vcore but should be good comparison for you


good luck

[tien113]

my crucial tracer red 4gb has just died, quality of crucial so .

please give some advice about buying kit 4gb? i have a plan buy ocz platinum 1000mhz 4gb. is it good choice???

[CryptiK]

I just got my RMA replacement P5Q-Deluxe back. It's a brand new board form the supplier. The serial number starts with 89, does anyone have a board as new, and does it have an A3 chipset?

This just stems from the conversation in the P5Q-E thread where it was suggested that boards later than 88 may have an A3 chipset.

I will pull my M2F out and test it anyway, but I'd just like to know if anyone has any idea if it might be A3 or not before I go and pull everything apart.

[x3mgamer]

ive been running this config today and it managed to keep prime from crashing for 20 mins


AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information : 5-5-5-15-3-55-6-3

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information : 7-3-5-4-5-4-7

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information : 14-5-1-6-6

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: Auto



CPU Voltage: 1.18125
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.24
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.1
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.5

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled


then i changed cpu margin enhancement to compatible and tested 3 times, first test ran for 2 mins before crashing , 2nd ran 14 mins & crashed, 3rd ran for like 5 mins and restarted the rig

i changed cpu margin to performance and it ran for like 25-30 mins and restarted the rig, any ideas how to proceed?

[Godmyster]

What Bios do you guys recommend for the P5Q Deluxe? i got a E8400 and 2x2 Gskill PI Black Edition..

[R@ptor =]]]

Did some tests yesterday. Found a result that pleased me. Nothing too extreme, but I liked the low voltage of vtt and nb with this fsb.
the image


sorry for my bad english =[

[jeeka]

I just got my RMA replacement P5Q-Deluxe back. It's a brand new board form the supplier. The serial number starts with 89, does anyone have a board as new, and does it have an A3 chipset?

This just stems from the conversation in the P5Q-E thread where it was suggested that boards later than 88 may have an A3 chipset.

I will pull my M2F out and test it anyway, but I'd just like to know if anyone has any idea if it might be A3 or not before I go and pull everything apart.

Hi Cryptik,
I have an A3 P5Q Deluxe that I am working on getting stable with my q9550 e0 @ 4.2Ghz with the items in my sig. Anything I can help you with? I bought mine from Newegg about a week ago. It's a better setup than my P5K Deluxe.

[Godmyster]

What Bios do you guys recommend for the P5Q Deluxe? i got a E8400 and 2x2 Gskill PI Black Edition..

Anybody?

[CryptiK]

@ jeeka - Oh great, can you please tell me the serial number from the label on the box?

Label looks like this:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=528

@ Godmyster - I have not used the board in months, but I'd try 1406 looks to be pretty good but there may be a later one that's good too. The last one I used was 1201.

[jeeka]

Anybody?

Hold on dude, it has only been an hour since your initial post!
I run BIOS 1406 with the setup in my sig....but I run a quad core instead of your dual.

[jeeka]

@ jeeka - Oh great, can you please tell me the serial number from the label on the box?

Label looks like this:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=528

@ Godmyster - I have not used the board in months, but I'd try 1406 looks to be pretty good but there may be a later one that's good too. The last one I used was 1201.

This is what's on the box: 89M0AI886142.... (is it ok to post the serial? for warranty reasons???) it's a 1.03G

Sorry for being so paranoid...I'll post the rest of the label when I have my good camera available....

Does this help any?

[x3mgamer]

i used 1406 and now im using 1611 and i think theyre both great and stable if u can make them stable lol