"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[jdmR]

the 1.03g can be found on the bottom right of the p5q deluxe on the motherboard

[Big Lar]

I bought it at Fry's Electronics in Downers Grove, IL.

I have an e8600 running right now at 4.4GHz using a TRUE BLACK with just 1 fan on the HSF. I have no fans in my case as it's just torn apart and still have work to do it. My temps are pretty high because of it. at Load it's between 60c to 68c (running prime 95). My voltages are: vCore - 1.33v. I upped my Mushkin memory to 1.9v and uped the NB to 1.14 volt. So far so good. I tried 4.5GHz and it failed prime95 after 30 minutes. I upped the voltage to 1.38 for the 4.5GHz test. The temp on that was between 70c to 77c for load. Probably because it's an oven in the case with no fans! lol ... I'm still a virgin with this setup and learning a load from all the posts in this thread!

May pick up another board after the holidays. Probably go to that store also I'm in Lake In The Hills here.

Larry

[jdmR]

i bought mine from newegg 2 weeks ago and its the same sticker as 3dchipset as well as its a 1.03g. the 3 means 3rd revision for the nb right?

[Leeghoofd]

Verify with CPU-Z, mine is an A2 yours hopefully is an A3

[jdmR]

cant just yet. dont have all the parts yet. this is my first build

[Leeghoofd]

I just received this board and I am experiencing problems. My specs are in my signature, but I am of course using a different motherboard.

The PC will not POST. No beep codes are given and the screen and USB devices do not turn on.

Tried to use another dimm ? are you sure all the required cables are hooked up ? unplug everything also PSU, even the CPU... verify if it doesn't have any bend pins in the socket area... then rebuild everyhting outside of the case with another dimm (try different ram slots too)

If no go, either your vidcard is dead or the mobo is DOA

[MarkJohnson]

What's the trick to flashing an older BIOS? It keeps sayying my current BIOS is newer and won't flash the older.

-=Mark=-

[Leeghoofd]

I suppose you are trying to flash via windows then ? I would only recommend to use EZ flash via the bios... till now no negative experiences at all.
With windows update some dead boards due to corrupt bios

I always flash with No OC at all and one dimm ( so bios default settings loaded and just altered Dimm voltage to correct value ) I put the new bios on an USB stick and press Delete on the reboot, via EZ flash I had no issues to downgrade...

[MarkJohnson]

I was using the latest afudos with no luck. I even tried ez-flash 2 in BIOS and same results.

-=Mark=-

[Knight]

Tried to use another dimm ? are you sure all the required cables are hooked up ? unplug everything also PSU, even the CPU... verify if it doesn't have any bend pins in the socket area... then rebuild everyhting outside of the case with another dimm (try different ram slots too)

If no go, either your vidcard is dead or the mobo is DOA

The problem was the boards response to some D9 GMH. I tried 4 sticks of Ballistix memory individually in every slot, no POST from any combination. I then used one stick of my friends name brand DDR2 and the board posted just fine. I just use 4 gigs of powerchips.

[Shadout]

Got an issue with reaching same OC I have used for months, before updating my BIOS today.

Ive been running Q9450 @ 3,2Ghz for 4 months with '1003' BIOS for Asus P5Q-E without any issues with the following settings:

CPU Ratio: Auto
FSB Strap: 333
FSB Freq: 400
PCIE Freq: 100
DRAM Freq: DDR2-801

CPU Voltage: 1.2
CPU GTL voltage: 0.630
CPU GTL voltage: 0.670
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.12
DRAM Voltage: 1.8
NB Voltage: 1.12

Everything else on Auto.

Today i had some 'crash' which made it impossible to boot, totally unrelated to my OC though. Had to reset BIOS to fix it.
Anyway, since it resulted in default Bios settings I thought I might as well update my bios from 1003 to 1406 at the same time.

The issue is, Im nowhere near stable OC with same settings again. Im not even passing the Windows loading Screen. I tried to up the voltages a bit on vcore, NB, PLL, but still crashing during windows load.
I got in with FSB at 366 (havent tested for stability since I just got in), but thats quite a difference compared to pre-update.
Can an updated BIOS really make that much of a difference? Any advice on which setting might be the culprit? Or if I should just downgrade to an old version.


Edit: Managed to get into Windows with FSB at 380. Prime survived for less than 1 min... feels like something is really ed up

[Shadout]

Sorry for doubleposting, but after reading more of the thread, regarding Q9450 and P5Q I thought it might be relevant.

After not being able to OC much at all (if at all, didnt try lower than 380 FSB, which crashed instantly) with 1406, I downgraded to 0803.
Now it seems to run perfectly fine with my old OC (400FSB).

Ive used 1003 until now though, which afaik did have CME, so I dont know if it is in any way related, but something was really bad for me in 1406 at least.

[3dchipset]

May pick up another board after the holidays. Probably go to that store also I'm in Lake In The Hills here.

Larry

lol! I'm in Huntley, IL. here! Heh Reed Rd. / Route 47

[Big Lar]

lol! I'm in Huntley, IL. here! Heh Reed Rd. / Route 47

Howdy neighbor!

Larry

[3dchipset]

Small World! That's for sure...

[jdmR]

anyone here using 2x2gb muskin xp2 pc2 8500 for the mobo?

[mozis]

anyone here using 2x2gb muskin xp2 pc2 8500 for the mobo?

Yeh, me. 996599 model to be exact. Running at 1066MHz, 5-5-5-15 timings, 2.04V and 1406 BIOS

No OC yet, most options on auto or default values. My cooling isnt here yet ^^

[jdmR]

lmk how it runs. i plan on ordering my memory this upcoming week

[Mumid]

I was using the latest afudos with no luck. I even tried ez-flash 2 in BIOS and same results.

-=Mark=-

Same issue here. I can not downgrade from latest bios!

[Leeghoofd]

Only one way to solve it lads,

1) power off (pull the power cord)
2) remove the 2 bios (plz keep an eye on how to place them) chips : the pc boots from the right hand one so 1611 pull that one first and put aside
3) put the one on the left on the right hand side
4) Boot Pc and enter Bios
a) either you can continue to use this chip and flash it with eg 1406 or
b) you can open EZ flash to HOTFLASH the 1611 chip (that used to be on the right hand side) continue to step 5
5) no fear while the pc is running (in EZ flash tool) : pull gently the bios chip and replace it with the 1611 chip version
6) continue to flash 1406 or bios of preference
7) 1611 is reflashed with bios of preference

I just did this as the Asusupdate tool gave me some warning of it not being the correct eeprom and the above method worked fab ( I got one 0803 and one 1406 now )

Just make sure when pulling the bios chips that you don't use too much force as the pins bend easily (luckily they don't break rapidly)

[gaddster]

Same issue here. I can not downgrade from latest bios!

You just need an older version of afudos don't you?! I've got one knocking around I use to do all the flashes on my p5wdh.

[x3mgamer]

guys i need ur help getting this rig to run at 3.6 stable, as u know ive RMAd the faulty dominator set and im waiting for the new ones, in the meantime ive reseated the mobo and the vendetta 2 with some silver grease and lowered temps a bit

this is my setup with this working dominator set




AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 425
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information : 5-5-5-15-3-55-6-3

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information : 7-3-5-4-5-4-7

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information : 14-5-1-6-6

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO



CPU Voltage: 1.17500
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: AUTO
FSB Termination Voltage: AUTO
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.20
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: AUTO
PCIE Spread Spectrum: AUTO
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

ok that setup booted into windows at 1.16875 vcore, it wasnt very stable though, bumped vcore to 1.17500 and managed to get small fft prime stable for 5-10 mins before computer restarted on its own, bumped vcore to 1.18125 and again it restarted this time after some 15-20 mins prime, now im almost sure it wasnt the cpus fault it was restarting so i bumped vcore back to 1.17500 and raised nb to 1.3 and prime crashes now but theres no system restart so i must be on the right track, real temp is reporting warmest core at 61 degrees so thats sweet, what do i do to make it stable?

[carepolice]

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 425
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information : 5-5-5-15-3-55-6-3

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information : 7-3-5-4-5-4-7

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information : 14-5-1-6-6

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO <- Disabled "optional"
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO



CPU Voltage: 1.17500 May need little increase, try other changes 1st
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52-1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.14-1.20
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.20
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO <- set 1.1
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO <-set 1.5

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

Just leave vcore as it is now try other changes first , i see that you got low VID chip as it runs 61c already on 1.17500 voltage so it could be fine voltage for that FSB

[x3mgamer]

core temp is reading VID 1.2375v and im running 1611 bios, does the cpus vid suck for a C1 revision? how much more nb voltage headroom do i still have at this clock ?

[carepolice]

core temp is reading VID 1.2375v and im running 1611 bios, does the cpus vid suck for a C1 revision?

In my opinion VID cant suck, it is what it is. But your temps are pretty high for just that voltage!

but still far from "non" safe limits, make it stable and you got nice 3.6Ghz clock there!