"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[Mumid]

I was using the latest afudos with no luck. I even tried ez-flash 2 in BIOS and same results.

-=Mark=-

Same issue here. I can not downgrade from latest bios!

[gaddster]

Same issue here. I can not downgrade from latest bios!

You just need an older version of afudos don't you?! I've got one knocking around I use to do all the flashes on my p5wdh.

[x3mgamer]

guys i need ur help getting this rig to run at 3.6 stable, as u know ive RMAd the faulty dominator set and im waiting for the new ones, in the meantime ive reseated the mobo and the vendetta 2 with some silver grease and lowered temps a bit

this is my setup with this working dominator set




AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 425
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information : 5-5-5-15-3-55-6-3

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information : 7-3-5-4-5-4-7

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information : 14-5-1-6-6

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO



CPU Voltage: 1.17500
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: AUTO
FSB Termination Voltage: AUTO
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.20
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: AUTO
PCIE Spread Spectrum: AUTO
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

ok that setup booted into windows at 1.16875 vcore, it wasnt very stable though, bumped vcore to 1.17500 and managed to get small fft prime stable for 5-10 mins before computer restarted on its own, bumped vcore to 1.18125 and again it restarted this time after some 15-20 mins prime, now im almost sure it wasnt the cpus fault it was restarting so i bumped vcore back to 1.17500 and raised nb to 1.3 and prime crashes now but theres no system restart so i must be on the right track, real temp is reporting warmest core at 61 degrees so thats sweet, what do i do to make it stable?

[carepolice]

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 425
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information : 5-5-5-15-3-55-6-3

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information : 7-3-5-4-5-4-7

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information : 14-5-1-6-6

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO <- Disabled "optional"
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO



CPU Voltage: 1.17500 May need little increase, try other changes 1st
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52-1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.14-1.20
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.20
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO <- set 1.1
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO <-set 1.5

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

Just leave vcore as it is now try other changes first , i see that you got low VID chip as it runs 61c already on 1.17500 voltage so it could be fine voltage for that FSB

[x3mgamer]

core temp is reading VID 1.2375v and im running 1611 bios, does the cpus vid suck for a C1 revision? how much more nb voltage headroom do i still have at this clock ?

[carepolice]

core temp is reading VID 1.2375v and im running 1611 bios, does the cpus vid suck for a C1 revision?

In my opinion VID cant suck, it is what it is. But your temps are pretty high for just that voltage!

but still far from "non" safe limits, make it stable and you got nice 3.6Ghz clock there!

[Brian75]

Q9450 guys, I need your help. I've been following all of the stable settings posted and I believe I am VERY close to stability, but would like some advice on what to adjust to:

1) Get Prime 95 Blend stable
2) Lower my vcore a bit

I also want to note that I did passed Intel Burn Test (Linpack) with maximum stress with 10 passes, but still failed Prime 95 blend (only CPU ID 3) around 5-7 minutes.

When testing with only small FFTs for pure CPU stability in Prime 95 with lower vcore voltage, CPU ID 3 is always the one that fails.

I'm guessing this where I'll need to do some GTL adjustments.

Here are my current settings:

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-901
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information : 5-5-5-18-3-54-6-3

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information : 8-3-5-4-6-4-6

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information : 14-5-1-6-6

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO



CPU Voltage: 1.36875
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

Other system specs:
Asus P5Q-E
OCZ Platinum PC8000 2x2 GB
True 120 w/ Push/Pull

[Big Lar]

Q9450 guys, I need your help. I've been following all of the stable settings posted and I believe I am VERY close to stability, but would like some advice on what to adjust to:

1) Get Prime 95 Blend stable
2) Lower my vcore a bit

I also want to note that I did passed Intel Burn Test (Linpack) with maximum stress with 10 passes, but still failed Prime 95 blend (only CPU ID 3) around 5-7 minutes.

When testing with only small FFTs for pure CPU stability in Prime 95 with lower vcore voltage, CPU ID 3 is always the one that fails.

I'm guessing this where I'll need to do some GTL adjustments.

Here are my current settings:

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-901
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information : 5-5-5-18-3-54-6-3

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information : 8-3-5-4-6-4-6

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information : 14-5-1-6-6

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO (Try Disabled)
DRAM Read Training: AUTO (Disabled)
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO (Play with this/Moderate)
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO (Try 10 for 1:1 once cpu's stable)



CPU Voltage: 1.36875
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO (Adjust up/ 0.675)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized (Try Performance/Compatible)

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

Other system specs:
Asus P5Q-E
OCZ Platinum PC8000 2x2 GB
True 120 w/ Push/Pull

Try what I changed 1 by 1 tho to see if 1 or the other helps. GTL's help quite a bit. May want to try setting both of the cpu gtl's.

Larry

[mac_69]

My templates in my sig, its an Q9450 and needs high Vcore but should be good comparison for you


good luck

[Mumid]

Only one way to solve it lads,

1) power off (pull the power cord)
2) remove the 2 bios (plz keep an eye on how to place them) chips : the pc boots from the right hand one so 1611 pull that one first and put aside
3) put the one on the left on the right hand side
4) Boot Pc and enter Bios
a) either you can continue to use this chip and flash it with eg 1406 or
b) you can open EZ flash to HOTFLASH the 1611 chip (that used to be on the right hand side) continue to step 5
5) no fear while the pc is running (in EZ flash tool) : pull gently the bios chip and replace it with the 1611 chip version
6) continue to flash 1406 or bios of preference
7) 1611 is reflashed with bios of preference

I just did this as the Asusupdate tool gave me some warning of it not being the correct eeprom and the above method worked fab ( I got one 0803 and one 1406 now )

Just make sure when pulling the bios chips that you don't use too much force as the pins bend easily (luckily they don't break rapidly)

Thanks for the solution sir.

You just need an older version of afudos don't you?! I've got one knocking around I use to do all the flashes on my p5wdh.

Can you upload it somewhere so we can try it? Cheers

[gaddster]

Now I'm certain that afudos is generic so you should be able to use the one I do. Put it here and it's version 1.19 I believe

[MarkJohnson]

Only one way to solve it lads,

1) power off (pull the power cord)
2) remove the 2 bios (plz keep an eye on how to place them) chips : the pc boots from the right hand one so 1611 pull that one first and put aside
3) put the one on the left on the right hand side
4) Boot Pc and enter Bios
a) either you can continue to use this chip and flash it with eg 1406 or
b) you can open EZ flash to HOTFLASH the 1611 chip (that used to be on the right hand side) continue to step 5
5) no fear while the pc is running (in EZ flash tool) : pull gently the bios chip and replace it with the 1611 chip version
6) continue to flash 1406 or bios of preference
7) 1611 is reflashed with bios of preference

I just did this as the Asusupdate tool gave me some warning of it not being the correct eeprom and the above method worked fab ( I got one 0803 and one 1406 now )

Just make sure when pulling the bios chips that you don't use too much force as the pins bend easily (luckily they don't break rapidly)

It seems the 1611 needs a special engineering afudos file. The guys at the Asus forum have found it.

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...age=2&count=15

Post by na

*** SOLUTION FOUND FOR P5Q BIOS DOWNGRADE ***

hey Mark,

I did try clearing the CMOS a dozen times all different ways (bios, afudos /pcn, jumper/battery etc) to no avail.

I tried the afudos that came on the CD, which complained about the bios being too old (1406). I tried v2.07 which failed with a message of "main BIOS checksum is bad". For anybody who needs to downgrade in the future, this link is the key - this SPECIFIC afudos binary, some sort of engineering version that will allow downgrades (see last post):

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/24...downgrade-bios

also found it afterwards in a user post here:

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

Why can't asus give this information out themselves instead of users wasting time trying to figure out what's wrong? I can say that my next mainboard will not be an asus.

Post by Randy

Having restored the 1406 bios as described above, I am able to use EZ Flash to downgrade to earlier bioses. (I just tried this because I'm not sure that my 1406 restore was completely successful.) It seems likely that there is something in 1611 that prevents the normal bios tools (EZ Flash and standard AFUDOS variants) from doing downgrades.

Hope this helps someone.
-=Mark=-

[gaddster]

Just to add the one I use and attached above will let me downgrade on the p5wdh from the latest bios way back to the early ones.

[Mumid]

Now I'm certain that afudos is generic so you should be able to use the one I do. Put it here and it's version 1.19 I believe

Thanks anyway mate.

It seems the 1611 needs a special engineering afudos file. The guys at the Asus forum have found it.

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...age=2&count=15

Post by na


Post by Randy


Hope this helps someone.
-=Mark=-

Thanks mate. I was already using afu236u.exe before but it wasnt working but the afudos.exe you linked works fine. Good work