The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Zucker2k]

help! I'm having random crashes with this settings, sometimes it gives me memory dump error, sometimes it will restart instantly specially when i play games such as GTA IV.

here is my bios setting:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Setting : 10.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266Mhz
FSB Frequency : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1203Mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: 300
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information : 5-5-5-18-3-55/60-6-3
2nd Information : All Auto
3rd Information : All Auto
DRAM Static Read Control : Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level : 05
Pull-In of CHA PH1 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.26875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41 (only wayto know if this is adequate is to test some related stress apps)
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.24
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Disabled This may be the culprit afterall.
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67x You may be able to lower your FSBT as a result of higher GTL. FSBT could also cause the symptoms you're describing, it's all about testing.
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

How's the Philippines; did Manny Pacquiao arrive yet? Try the highlighted changes. What bios are you using?

[junkun13]

How's the Philippines; did Manny Pacquiao arrive yet? Try the highlighted changes. What bios are you using?

he will arrive here wednesday, maybe another motorcade will happen.

thank you for the suggestions, I will try it later

[OVERK|LL]

Anybody else running Linux? I have this bizarre issue with the JMicron controller. I have an open bug report with the kernel devs, but I'm curious as to whether the JMicron BIOS is updated in any of these newer BIOS's? I'm running 308........

[junkun13]

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: 300

after i changed my settings to this i got a ntldr error. then changed it back to normal the error is gone but another problem arises..
because of the Loadline Calibration disabled my pc won't get to windows a blue screen appears then restarts so I enabled loadline calibration again.

[Zucker2k]

after i changed my settings to this i got a ntldr error. then changed it back to normal the error is gone but another problem arises..
because of the Loadline Calibration disabled my pc won't get to windows a blue screen appears then restarts so I enabled loadline calibration again.

set it back to 300 A/B
Disable Loadline Calibration
Increase cpu voltage to 1.275v
Set NBV to 1.450v

Goodluck.

[Grnfinger]

So my Maximus X38 arrived today from Asus

I begin the process of removing the heatpipe and fuzion block assembly to replace the TIM...lots of fun



After the slow process of removing the cement like compound, I finally was able to apply some Ceramique to the NB and SB and replace the assembly



Isnt she pretty all dress'd up
I installed it all back into the case, routed the cables extra extra nice, even toss'd in 2 new blue led 120mm fans for bling hit the power botton and to my amaze it posted with a BORKED BIOS that will not allow me to boot or hotflash the bios, crash free will not work keeps in about "rom id error".

So I phone Asus and take a royal crap all over the girl who answerd the phone, got transfferd to level 3 tech support ( ooo I am impressed now) After he quoted his big book of bs we are now at the 3rd RMA. Sending this board in to the California facility ( maybe this will help ) , my wife has been without her rig since August and has been using my lappy, think I will suck this loss up and go buy a UD3P tomorrow.

I have had it, maybe I should buy a Dell

[Zucker2k]

Isnt she pretty all dress'd up
I installed it all back into the case, routed the cables extra extra nice, even toss'd in 2 new blue led 120mm fans for bling hit the power botton and to my amaze it posted with a BORKED BIOS that will not allow me to boot or hotflash the bios, crash free will not work keeps in about "rom id error".

So I phone Asus and take a royal crap all over the girl who answerd the phone, got transfferd to level 3 tech support ( ooo I am impressed now) After he quoted his big book of bs we are now at the 3rd RMA. Sending this board in to the California facility ( maybe this will help ) , my wife has been without her rig since August and has been using my lappy, think I will suck this loss up and go buy a UD3P tomorrow.

I have had it, maybe I should buy a Dell

I'd be royally pissed; you deserve an upgrade to RF for all the troubles you've been through.

Edit: "Rom id error" sounds like the wrong bios was flashed to the bios. Did they ship you someone's board from a borked rom flashing? Man, Asus tech support is getting hilarious lately.

[Grnfinger]

I'd be royally pissed; you deserve an upgrade to RF for all the troubles you've been through.

Edit: "Rom id error" sounds like the wrong bios was flashed to the bios. Did they ship you someone's board from a borked rom flashing? Man, Asus tech support is getting hilarious lately.

Dunno about the bios but man I'm very upset.
I'm going to press the issue about an upgrade, I doubt if it will happen but you have to try.
To make matters worse, there appears to be dilectric grease around the cpu socket
Plus if you noticed I sent a SE they shipped back a rev 1.03g NON SE and slapped the fuzion block on it.

[Zucker2k]

Dunno about the bios but man I'm very upset.
I'm going to press the issue about an upgrade, I doubt if it will happen but you have to try.
To make matters worse, there appears to be dilectric grease around the cpu socket
Plus if you noticed I sent a SE they shipped back a rev 1.03g NON SE and slapped the fuzion block on it.

Looks like you a strong case for an upgrade. Keep pushing till you either talk to the boss or someone caves

[MJR]

Zucker2k, care to share your bios settings for that OC? also, how much difference do you think 0308 vs and newer bios makes?

I'm starting to think you either have the midas touch or a golden board.

[Zucker2k]

Zucker2k, care to share your bios settings for that OC? also, how much difference do you think 0308 vs and newer bios makes?

I'm starting to think you either have the midas touch or a golden board.

I wish! I just prefer 0308 for that extra bandwidth, however little. As far as newer bioses, you know what they say; unless you have a justifiable reason to upgrade, don't. I have tried all newer bioses just for the heck of it, but I always revert to 0308.

Here are the settings:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Setting : 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333MHZ
FSB Frequency : 471
PCI-E Frequency: 101

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-942
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: 300
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information : 4-4-3-12-1-40-4-2
2nd Information : 7-2-4-4-6-4-6
3rd Information : 11-4-1-4-4
DRAM Static Read Control : Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level : 07
Pull-In of CHA PH1 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.3875v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.500v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.350v
DRAM Voltage : 2.160v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.24v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.100v
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.600v
Loadline Calibration : Disabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : +20mv These three, I have on for now, they're probably not impacting my OC much, if any at all. Still experimenting.
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : +20mv
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : +20mv

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

I'll recommend you start all over from stock, as your cpu might behave differently to mine. Still worth a try. Goodluck.

[MJR]

I'll recommend you start all over from stock, as your cpu might behave differently to mine. Still worth a try. Goodluck.

Yeah, I just don't know where to start. Once I get my NB block on I'll start over on 0308, but I'm not sure what to try with the CPU. On the MF bios, it read 1.1125 VID now with the RF bios it's reading 1.2125 VID.

So if I start from scratch, how should I pick my voltages? I usually go auto at stock, and then hard set whatever voltages that gives me. Any better ways to go about it?

[Zucker2k]

Yeah, I just don't know where to start. Once I get my NB block on I'll start over on 0308, but I'm not sure what to try with the CPU. On the MF bios, it read 1.1125 VID now with the RF bios it's reading 1.2125 VID.

So if I start from scratch, how should I pick my voltages? I usually go auto at stock, and then hard set whatever voltages that gives me. Any better ways to go about it?

I envy that chip of yours, it should be a good clocker. The best way to quickly find out the limits is to overclock in isolation; try to eiminate NB, VTT, RAM from the equation by being a little bit generous/loose with those, then set the lowest vcore for the cpu and see how far it'll go before before you need to add more voltages. Once you determine clock/vcore ratio, you can start with the ram, and with a combination of all the essential voltages start stabilizing. With my board, from stock clock/multi to 4.1Ghz is good on the 0.67x cpu gtl and low vtt as you can see from the screenshots. After 4.1Ghz, 483 FSB, I have to drop cpu gtl to 0.63x and bump fsbt all the way to 1.56-1.58v to be stable.

[MJR]

will do. My NB block is on the way so as soon as I get time, it's on. Thanks for the tips!

[junkun13]

with this settings:

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: 300

I'm getting a boot screen but it doesn't load windows..

[Zucker2k]

with this settings:

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: 300

I'm getting a boot screen but it doesn't load windows..

If it boots okay when you revert to auto, then stick with that. It may be ram/nb latencies are too hard on your ram seeing that your running PL5 @ fsb 400/1200mhz.

[youraa]

I wish! I just prefer 0308 for that extra bandwidth, however little. As far as newer bioses, you know what they say; unless you have a justifiable reason to upgrade, don't. I have tried all newer bioses just for the heck of it, but I always revert to 0308.

Here are the settings:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Setting : 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333MHZ
FSB Frequency : 471
PCI-E Frequency: 101

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-942
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: 300
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information : 4-4-3-12-1-40-4-2
2nd Information : 7-2-4-4-6-4-6
3rd Information : 11-4-1-4-4
DRAM Static Read Control : Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level : 07
Pull-In of CHA PH1 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.3875v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.500v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.350v
DRAM Voltage : 2.160v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.24v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.100v
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.600v
Loadline Calibration : Disabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : +20mv These three, I have on for now, they're probably not impacting my OC much, if any at all. Still experimenting.
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : +20mv
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : +20mv

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

I'll recommend you start all over from stock, as your cpu might behave differently to mine. Still worth a try. Goodluck.

Hi there you got those settings working on AM x38 with rampage bios? If yes on what Ram and wh is the stepping of your chip? I wonder how far I could go with mine

[Zucker2k]

Hi there you got those settings working on AM x38 with rampage bios? If yes on what Ram and wh is the stepping of your chip? I wonder how far I could go with mine

PM replied.

[youraa]

Has anyone tested the Rampage Formula 701 Bios? Is it a beta? I mean is it safe to try it or I might have problems with going back to maximus formula bios or any other?

[MJR]

I'm tempted to try it, but I want to get my NB under water first and prolly try 0308 first. IDK

[youraa]

http://cid-988b91f35a949678.skydrive...rmula-0701.rom

while trying to load the 0701 rom file from usb I get the message:

error-ubale to open th ROM file



did't try with other roms though this is the one I'm interested in hopes for more than 430 on this board

[youraa]

I'm tempted to try it, but I want to get my NB under water first and prolly try 0308 first. IDK

Will try 0308 then but will do it on friday most propably today it's too late ))

[Grnfinger]

701 is supposed to resolve the GTL issue for 45nm quads that creates the FSB wall.
308 has a better tref value for higher bandwidth but you lose ram compatibility running 308.
I would suggest trying 701 if you want to break the 430FSB barrier

[MJR]

can you verify a good source for the 0701 bios? I'll load it up tonight.

[youraa]

701 is supposed to resolve the GTL issue for 45nm quads that creates the FSB wall.
308 has a better tref value for higher bandwidth but you lose ram compatibility running 308.
I would suggest trying 701 if you want to break the 430FSB barrier

Ok thx, but as I mentioned above the file is not working for me, maybe I will try it with a different pendrive, will try that tomorrow.
I also found some info on a japanese site, that's it about to be published, and it can be found on the asus ftp, dunno if it's true though.