AMD Shows Deneb (Phenom II) pictures of 6.2GHz CPUz etc

[informal]

The last thing they hid was the 4800 series. So that kinda blows your little theory up.

I was waiting for someone to bring that up,took you people long enough .
RV770 was speculated to be a dud(due to much contradicting info and FUD) and *no way* a competitor to mighty GT200,*m a y b e* a competitor to 8800 series.We all know how that theory turned up and how "Nvidia dominated throughout 2008"(as one prophet from XS news predicted).

[Zucker2k]

I would love it if this was true (seems to be). All this does is lower prices on i7 chips which inturn lowers prices on amd chips. Then I come in and upgrade without spending a buttload


Btw first post from my iPhone, god it's pimp!

I couldn't have said it better, price war!

[D-Cyph3r]

So honestly, what's the reason for the secrecy? Why hide when you have nothing to hide? The last 3 times the they hid, the results sucked. So please don't act as if folks aren't justified in being just a little skeptical. The reasons you gave didn't stop AMD from doing just that the last 3 times

AM2 (will give advantages to AMD over Intel with DDR2)
4X4 (unmatched by anything Intel has or will have for the next 3 years)
Phenom (3GHz Native Quadcore that will be faster than Intel's MCM)

All touted as Intel killers Call me whatever but I don't trust AMD, Intel or any of the rest PR stunts that send folks dancing in the isles are laughable at best.

Bud's in Germany are the ones who got me looking at buying a Phenom II. It would be kind of Lame to buy from Intel or AMD according to their PR and etc...

Yeah... but this time it's not AMD making the claims, it's the pro overclockers who are attending these events (along with respected journalists and the likes of OCZ's Tony).

AMD have been very smart with these controlled leaks/teasers imo.

[LowRun]

Bloody crap!!! Since when Macci (THE LEGEND and one of the nicest guys in this community) and some of the most trusted peeps on XS became questionable persons???

I for one am sick of those newcomers dragging down some of the most respected people here like they are just a bunch of liars/fakers.

[Jazzman]

You know this marketing approach was championed by early snowboard manufacturers and some skateboard shoe makers (Airway etc). It is guerilla marketing at its heart. Use respected practioners to spread "THE WORD" about a new "unique" product. Build the buzz and legitimacy, then BAM hit 'em with an early release with killer prices. If it is BS you kill your brand, if the word on the street is true, you make a killing on initial sales.

[jonspd]

and at the buying season of the year....

[Chad Boga]

The last thing they hid was the 4800 series. So that kinda blows your little theory up.

I think one should separate the quite different GPU culture that ATI brought into the company compared to the existing CPU culture.

With Phenom II, we will see if AMD has changed their CPU culture here or if it is just inherently untrustworthy.

[Calmatory]

I think one should separate the quite different GPU culture that ATI brought into the company compared to the existing CPU culture.

With Phenom II, we will see if AMD has changed their CPU culture here or if it is just inherently untrustworthy.

New CEO might have quite an impact on stuff like this during the times for AMD like this.

I still see no reason to show off to known OC'ers and known members of the whole OC community and then fool the rest of the world. They just lose the last drips of their reliability due to it. They seem confident, and for a reason.

[Donnie27]

agreed but we are talking about Clock speed and not so much about IPC. The clock speeds have been confirmed by many many sources. and the few that have there own PHII to test have been confirming the air cooling capabilities right inline with what AMD told us. I dont trust any company on there word of there product but I do trust those who have confirmed it.

Its quite different this time around.

As folks like to point! All those folks were shown an easy to overclock to 3GHz Phenom 1 as well. How many of the first ones overclocked that high? AMD shouldn't have to "tell" you anything. YOU should be telling US what they are doing and that's my point. Paper Launches and teasers suck IMHO.

None of the NDA Crap-O-La matters if there is nothing to hide. Here's the kicker, I trust the guys ( a few German Lads) telling there's nothing to hide so it is kind of Lame to me. It's like much to do about nothing. What AMD is doing isn't going to slow or stop folks from buying Nehalem. Many will just say more of the same from AMD. Some folks (NOT ME) will take this as a bad sign!

Last thing here, Phenom II has to ONLY beat Intel at some things. If it is slightly slower performance wise but runs cooler, costs less and etc... AMD will do OK with them. More than just AMD fans will buy them

[Chad Boga]

New CEO might have quite an impact on stuff like this during the times for AMD like this.

I still see no reason to show off to known OC'ers and known members of the whole OC community and then fool the rest of the world. They just lose the last drips of their reliability due to it. They seem confident, and for a reason.

What you said makes sense, so let's hope it is indeed the case.

[Donnie27]

Yeah... but this time it's not AMD making the claims, it's the pro overclockers who are attending these events (along with respected journalists and the likes of OCZ's Tony).

AMD have been very smart with these controlled leaks/teasers imo.

AMD is the one holding NDA's over folks' heads though. Shouldn't they be pulling a Conroe type Barrage on at least THIS MARKET? Some folks defending this can't have it both ways. Hold your info close to the vest but tease to create doubt about the competitor's products They're out, selling, and there's nothing to estimate.

[AbelJemka]

AMD is the one holding NDA's over folks' heads though. Shouldn't they be pulling a Conroe type Barrage on at least THIS MARKET? Some folks defending this can't have it both ways. Hold your info close to the vest but tease to create doubt about the competitor's products They're out, selling, and there's nothing to estimate.

NDA may lift on december 14, justa a week to wait maybe
http://www.techpowerup.com/78013/Phe...e_Done_It.html

[Calmatory]

Event today 5th in San Fran., Another event in Chicago on Monday 8th, another one on the Friday 12th, NDA to lift 14th, rumours regarding that new Phenoms might start shipping before Christmas(possibly 18th/20th, edit: wrong dates.)? This starts to make sense.

[flippin_waffles]

I wonder if that NDA is for, and only for X2's, providing it's accurate.

[Calmatory]

I wonder if that NDA is for, and only for X2's, providing it's accurate.

X2's? :| Please elaborate.

[flippin_waffles]

I'm talking about the X2 7750.

[Donnie27]

NDA may lift on december 14, justa a week to wait maybe
http://www.techpowerup.com/78013/Phe...e_Done_It.html

Then this will be a very, VERY GOOD thing indeed!

[Donnie27]

Event today 5th in San Fran., Another event in Chicago on Monday 8th, another one on the Friday 12th, NDA to lift 14th, rumours regarding that new Phenoms might start shipping before Christmas(possibly 18th/20th, edit: wrong dates.)? This starts to make sense.

One other problem. You ain't gettin' nothing in via UPS, USPS or FedEX that close to Xmas=P Everything is clogged up shipping wise.

[Sparky]

One other problem. You ain't gettin' nothing in via UPS, USPS or FedEX that close to Xmas=P Everything is clogged up shipping wise.

Oh don't rain on the party

But yeah, it is true things will be slow.

[N19h7m4r3]

Silly question, but if PH2 ships early, will that mean that AM3 will ship earlier also?

I'd prefer to get an AM3 mobo and DDR3 to getting an 940 then dropping it for a 945.

[Shintai]

Silly question, but if PH2 ships early, will that mean that AM3 will ship earlier also?

I'd prefer to get an AM3 mobo and DDR3 to getting an 940 then dropping it for a 945.

I wouldnt expect any early shipping of both. Counting on the time of a random store is...not exactly the right way

AMD says january 8th. Site reviews however might be sooner. But for a 945 you gonna wait till april.

[azraeel101]

Posted in the AMD section by an XS member who was at the AMD event yesterday:

Just got back,

6.218 gig was top clock on LN2, 5.8gig complete benchmark run, 4 gig on air, 4.4 gig on phase change, lots of goodies given away, I think 6 or 8 PhenomII (to be delivered later, bummer), several 4800 vids, and several Killer network cards (that what I got), food and drink for everyone....

Also, looks like February for mainstream availability.....

Nope, but it can do the 4 gig even with the stock cooler, however, huge coolermaster, dual fanned heatpiped massive finnage coolers were doing the deed for the air cooled units...the phase change unit @4.4 gig reported -60c, it was a Prometia, I snuck into the bios and tried to get more out of the rig, but was greeted with a blank screen, oh well....they also had a couple more air cooled units that attendees were encouraged to clock themselves....all the units seemed to be running Vista Ultimate 32bit....then there were the two gamers stations to get some juices flowing...

This time the jump that AMD is making is not small, you will be impressed.....the LN2 Phenom was a semi cherry pick, they tested only three processors from a 30 unit batch, took the best one, the other two only did 5.5 for a stable bench run, uh, I'll take one...............

BTW, I said mainstream, there may be a trickle of units out sooner....from what I understood there aren't a whole bunch of units available right now....

[Hornet331]

so the 6ghz cpu was handpicked after all.

anyway 4ghz sounds good on stock air cooling, keep it coming.

[Sampsa]

so the 6ghz cpu was handpicked after all.

anyway 4ghz sounds good on stock air cooling, keep it coming.

I assume you have to handle and take the CPU you are going to test with your hands.. unless you have a robot doing it for you

[Tiridum]

I assume you have to handle and take the CPU you are going to test with your hands.. unless you have a robot doing it for you