AMD Shows Deneb (Phenom II) pictures of 6.2GHz CPUz etc

[G0ldBr1ck]

No one else calling BS on this? Remember when Phenom was supposed to be capable of 4 Ghz on air in Q107.

OMG, Yes AMD created a Hacked CPUZ then invited all the well know press to come view this new hacked CPUZ. Then they threatend harm to there families if they did not report on this being real. Then they shipped out some ES CPU's and a copy of there hacked CPUZ along with$100,000 usd to well know review sites to make up fake CPUZ Screen shots and tell us how great PHII is. Now after all that they are going to show there hacked fake OC's to tons of Techies in SF, Chicago, and Boston and send them home to tell us all piles of lies...................................and they are doing all this because It will help them as a company. Yep thats it.

PS. that was not realy directed at you frankR tho I quoted you. It was just in general to all the skepticism. so please take no offense

PSS. I hear now that this super hacked CPUZ is now being held in a High security vault somewhere deep below Area51.

[Razor_Blade]

OMG, Yes AMD created a Hacked CPUZ then invited all the well know press to come view this new hacked CPUZ. Then they threatend harm to there families if they did not report on this being real. Then they shipped out some ES CPU's and a copy of there hacked CPUZ along with$100,000 usd to well know review sites to make up fake CPUZ Screen shots and tell us how great PHII is. Now after all that they are going to show there hacked fake OC's to tons of Techies in SF, Chicago, and Boston and send them home to tell us all piles of lies...................................and they are doing all this because It will help them as a company. Yep thats it.

AHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAA!

[Donnie27]

OMG, Yes AMD created a Hacked CPUZ then invited all the well know press to come view this new hacked CPUZ. Then they threatend harm to there families if they did not report on this being real. Then they shipped out some ES CPU's and a copy of there hacked CPUZ along with$100,000 usd to well know review sites to make up fake CPUZ Screen shots and tell us how great PHII is. Now after all that they are going to show there hacked fake OC's to tons of Techies in SF, Chicago, and Boston and send them home to tell us all piles of lies...................................and they are doing all this because It will help them as a company. Yep thats it.

So honestly, what's the reason for the secrecy? Why hide when you have nothing to hide? The last 3 times the they hid, the results sucked. So please don't act as if folks aren't justified in being just a little skeptical. The reasons you gave didn't stop AMD from doing just that the last 3 times

AM2 (will give advantages to AMD over Intel with DDR2)
4X4 (unmatched by anything Intel has or will have for the next 3 years)
Phenom (3GHz Native Quadcore that will be faster than Intel's MCM)

All touted as Intel killers Call me whatever but I don't trust AMD, Intel or any of the rest PR stunts that send folks dancing in the isles are laughable at best.

Bud's in Germany are the ones who got me looking at buying a Phenom II. It would be kind of Lame to buy from Intel or AMD according to their PR and etc...

[G0ldBr1ck]

It would be kind of Lame to buy from Intel or AMD according to their PR and etc...

agreed but we are talking about Clock speed and not so much about IPC. The clock speeds have been confirmed by many many sources. and the few that have there own PHII to test have been confirming the air cooling capabilities right inline with what AMD told us. I dont trust any company on there word of there product but I do trust those who have confirmed it.

Its quite different this time around.

[Donnie27]

agreed but we are talking about Clock speed and not so much about IPC. The clock speeds have been confirmed by many many sources. and the few that have there own PHII to test have been confirming the air cooling capabilities right inline with what AMD told us. I dont trust any company on there word of there product but I do trust those who have confirmed it.

Its quite different this time around.

As folks like to point! All those folks were shown an easy to overclock to 3GHz Phenom 1 as well. How many of the first ones overclocked that high? AMD shouldn't have to "tell" you anything. YOU should be telling US what they are doing and that's my point. Paper Launches and teasers suck IMHO.

None of the NDA Crap-O-La matters if there is nothing to hide. Here's the kicker, I trust the guys ( a few German Lads) telling there's nothing to hide so it is kind of Lame to me. It's like much to do about nothing. What AMD is doing isn't going to slow or stop folks from buying Nehalem. Many will just say more of the same from AMD. Some folks (NOT ME) will take this as a bad sign!

Last thing here, Phenom II has to ONLY beat Intel at some things. If it is slightly slower performance wise but runs cooler, costs less and etc... AMD will do OK with them. More than just AMD fans will buy them

[demonkevy666]

AM2 (will give advantages to AMD over Intel with DDR2)
4X4 (unmatched by anything Intel has or will have for the next 3 years)
Phenom (3GHz Native Quadcore that will be faster than Intel's MCM)

well having a longer time on DDR2 sure helps make a northerbirdge

4x4 became unsupported buy Asus so AMD had to scrap it it suppose to be able to use 2 opteron 2350. MSI was going to go with it in fanst8 but Amd scraped that one too.

never said it would be a killer at all, they all said MAYBE an intel killer, that was speculation anyways.

[Calmatory]

So honestly, what's the reason for the secrecy? Why hide when you have nothing to hide? The last 3 times the they hid, the results sucked. So please don't act as if folks aren't justified in being just a little skeptical. The reasons you gave didn't stop AMD from doing just that the last 3 times

If they are hiding, why are they showing the tech for the chosen few? E.g. Another event today. Then yet another event in Monday.

My guess: They want to keep the hype up. Instead of blasting it all out right now, they want people to talk about their upcoming product line as much as possible before the release. If they blasted it all out right now, people would forget all of it in few weeks, resulting in less hype during the launch and possibly less sales. Now, if they keep leaking info, it will keep people interested and to speculate about it and more people will be aware. Possibly higher sales for same product.

Actually, I'd expect the bomb to fall down before the launch. What would it be, I have no clue. Possibly about the air OC, the temperatures and voltages. Possibly about the speed with some AMD records broken and coming right behind Intel records.

Actually, people are possibly getting the CPU's before the 24th, so Christmas sales are not no-no either. Conspiracy theory: AMD silently told the resellers to start ship Denebs to get piece of the Christmas cake, falling the bomb before the 18th.

At least it is interesting to see how Deneb turns out to be. Looking good so far.

[MrMojoZ]

The last 3 times the they hid, the results sucked. So please don't act as if folks aren't justified in being just a little skeptical. The reasons you gave didn't stop AMD from doing just that the last 3 times

The last thing they hid was the 4800 series. So that kinda blows your little theory up.

[informal]

The last thing they hid was the 4800 series. So that kinda blows your little theory up.

I was waiting for someone to bring that up,took you people long enough .
RV770 was speculated to be a dud(due to much contradicting info and FUD) and *no way* a competitor to mighty GT200,*m a y b e* a competitor to 8800 series.We all know how that theory turned up and how "Nvidia dominated throughout 2008"(as one prophet from XS news predicted).

[LowRun]

Bloody crap!!! Since when Macci (THE LEGEND and one of the nicest guys in this community) and some of the most trusted peeps on XS became questionable persons???

I for one am sick of those newcomers dragging down some of the most respected people here like they are just a bunch of liars/fakers.

[taurus_sel]

Bloody crap!!! Since when Macci (THE LEGEND and one of the nicest guys in this community) and some of the most trusted peeps on XS became questionable persons???

I for one am sick of those newcomers dragging down some of the most respected people here like they are just a bunch of liars/fakers.

Exactly. And nothing is being done about it. Just like the dude that directly insulted me. Hmm, wonder what happened to that guy...

Maybe I should change my avatar and put some blue in there so that maybe when the next guy does it something will happen.

[Chad Boga]

Exactly. And nothing is being done about it. Just like the dude that directly insulted me. Hmm, wonder what happened to that guy...

What exchange are you referring to?

[Chad Boga]

The last thing they hid was the 4800 series. So that kinda blows your little theory up.

I think one should separate the quite different GPU culture that ATI brought into the company compared to the existing CPU culture.

With Phenom II, we will see if AMD has changed their CPU culture here or if it is just inherently untrustworthy.

[Calmatory]

I think one should separate the quite different GPU culture that ATI brought into the company compared to the existing CPU culture.

With Phenom II, we will see if AMD has changed their CPU culture here or if it is just inherently untrustworthy.

New CEO might have quite an impact on stuff like this during the times for AMD like this.

I still see no reason to show off to known OC'ers and known members of the whole OC community and then fool the rest of the world. They just lose the last drips of their reliability due to it. They seem confident, and for a reason.

[Chad Boga]

New CEO might have quite an impact on stuff like this during the times for AMD like this.

I still see no reason to show off to known OC'ers and known members of the whole OC community and then fool the rest of the world. They just lose the last drips of their reliability due to it. They seem confident, and for a reason.

What you said makes sense, so let's hope it is indeed the case.

[D-Cyph3r]

So honestly, what's the reason for the secrecy? Why hide when you have nothing to hide? The last 3 times the they hid, the results sucked. So please don't act as if folks aren't justified in being just a little skeptical. The reasons you gave didn't stop AMD from doing just that the last 3 times

AM2 (will give advantages to AMD over Intel with DDR2)
4X4 (unmatched by anything Intel has or will have for the next 3 years)
Phenom (3GHz Native Quadcore that will be faster than Intel's MCM)

All touted as Intel killers Call me whatever but I don't trust AMD, Intel or any of the rest PR stunts that send folks dancing in the isles are laughable at best.

Bud's in Germany are the ones who got me looking at buying a Phenom II. It would be kind of Lame to buy from Intel or AMD according to their PR and etc...

Yeah... but this time it's not AMD making the claims, it's the pro overclockers who are attending these events (along with respected journalists and the likes of OCZ's Tony).

AMD have been very smart with these controlled leaks/teasers imo.

[Jazzman]

You know this marketing approach was championed by early snowboard manufacturers and some skateboard shoe makers (Airway etc). It is guerilla marketing at its heart. Use respected practioners to spread "THE WORD" about a new "unique" product. Build the buzz and legitimacy, then BAM hit 'em with an early release with killer prices. If it is BS you kill your brand, if the word on the street is true, you make a killing on initial sales.

[Donnie27]

Yeah... but this time it's not AMD making the claims, it's the pro overclockers who are attending these events (along with respected journalists and the likes of OCZ's Tony).

AMD have been very smart with these controlled leaks/teasers imo.

AMD is the one holding NDA's over folks' heads though. Shouldn't they be pulling a Conroe type Barrage on at least THIS MARKET? Some folks defending this can't have it both ways. Hold your info close to the vest but tease to create doubt about the competitor's products They're out, selling, and there's nothing to estimate.

[AbelJemka]

AMD is the one holding NDA's over folks' heads though. Shouldn't they be pulling a Conroe type Barrage on at least THIS MARKET? Some folks defending this can't have it both ways. Hold your info close to the vest but tease to create doubt about the competitor's products They're out, selling, and there's nothing to estimate.

NDA may lift on december 14, justa a week to wait maybe
http://www.techpowerup.com/78013/Phe...e_Done_It.html

[Donnie27]

NDA may lift on december 14, justa a week to wait maybe
http://www.techpowerup.com/78013/Phe...e_Done_It.html

Then this will be a very, VERY GOOD thing indeed!