Asus M3A79-T Deluxe

[charged3800z24]

Is anyone else getting higher then normal thermal reading with this board...? with out CPU tweak on? I use the same chip, same water cooling, swap the board and 8*c cooler. Swap board back to the ASUS, and 8*C higher... Is it just me or what.. By the way, setting are the exact same on both boards.

[Chicken Patty]

Is anyone else getting higher then normal thermal reading with this board...? with out CPU tweak on? I use the same chip, same water cooling, swap the board and 8*c cooler. Swap board back to the ASUS, and 8*C higher... Is it just me or what.. By the way, setting are the exact same on both boards.

what are you using to read the temps? The M3A79-T has buggy sensors.


I use Core Temp and I get temps about 10ºc lower than in the bios and pc probe.

Also AOD, HW monitor and every other programs registers the same as core temp. But PC Probe and the BIOS report way higher temps.

[gOtVoltage]

Is anyone else getting higher then normal thermal reading with this board...? with out CPU tweak on? I use the same chip, same water cooling, swap the board and 8*c cooler. Swap board back to the ASUS, and 8*C higher... Is it just me or what.. By the way, setting are the exact same on both boards.

Yup,, it reads the Temps higher than normal or any other Mobo ive used so far 770/790gx/790fxsb600/790FX750..It seems ASUS 79-T reads about 8-10c higher across the Board in Bios and in Windows.

Note:@ 22c room abiant temp

All other Mobos @ 1.55vid with 1.65volts for both NB and CPU ive always been @ 26c Idle..

The ASUS 79-T puts me @32c Idle @ 1.55vid and 1.65volts for both NB/CPU.

Same Watercooling was used for all of my Mobos. Ive even tried my 6000+ which also reads about 8c higher..So its a Mobo Bios issue indeed

Sometimes with ACC on +4 or +2 it would lower the temp some but never below 30c idle on my 9950(140watt)@3.5ghz

[MadDias]

here are my bios screens:









i ran prime as i typed this... at 1.4875v this time.. and it happened again.

22:01:54 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),46,34,46,100,3302.11
22:02:04 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),46,34,47,100,3302.11
22:02:14 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),31,31,47,100,1651.06
22:02:24 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),30,30,47,100,1651.06
22:02:34 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),46,30,47,100,3302.11
22:02:45 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),46,30,47,100,3302.11

also, why can i only choose 1.6GHz as max HT link?

[Chicken Patty]

here are my bios screens:









i ran prime as i typed this... at 1.4875v this time.. and it happened again.

22:01:54 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),46,34,46,100,3302.11
22:02:04 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),46,34,47,100,3302.11
22:02:14 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),31,31,47,100,1651.06
22:02:24 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),30,30,47,100,1651.06
22:02:34 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),46,30,47,100,3302.11
22:02:45 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),46,30,47,100,3302.11

also, why can i only choose 1.6GHz as max HT link?

Thanks for the screenshots.

As far as 1.6 GHz for the HT is because your NB multiplier is at x8. The ht should never be higher than your NB so its setup like that to prevent that from happening.

If you lower your FSB and higher your multiplier you can set your NB at 10x and set your HT at 2.0


Take CPU tweak off by the way, that gives you wayyyy higher temps. You can also try disabling CPU prefetching and see if that has anything to do with it.

[faior]

Take CPU tweak off by the way, that gives you wayyyy higher temps. You can also try disabling CPU prefetching and see if that has anything to do with it.

Interesting, took that off and the temps really falled down in idle like 5C, now idling at 39C Load seems to have 3-4C lower temps too.

What does this do? Some pages says its like tbl fix on and other pages says it lowers some internal bus latencies? Any difference to real life perfomance like 3D ?

Maybe it OC´s better now

[gOtVoltage]

Interesting, took that off and the temps really falled down in idle like 5C, now idling at 39C Load seems to have 3-4C lower temps too.

What does this do? Some pages says its like tbl fix on and other pages says it lowers some internal bus latencies? Any difference to real life perfomance like 3D ?

Maybe it OC´s better now

Its a Phenom Bios tweak other than TLB fix..its for Optimizing Phenom.

I cant remeber names(items it enables) but has to do with optimization and Power on Phenom..It is not related to the TLB fix...

When i had my TA770 and 9950 @3.45ghz Polygon @ Rebelshaven gave me a Bios with all the (Phenom Options enabled)with a seperate TLB disable tweak . The added Optimizations which are NON TLB Bios tweaks inhanced the performance.

Infact it made the Icon in AOD go from yellow(TLBdisabled) to Red(TLBdisabled +Performance tweaks enabled ,,

It also raised the temp a little and performance was increased on the 9950.

P.S Charged,,
Asus79-T gives me higher idle load temps..They are in fact lower when i disable the CPU tweak but still not what My other Mobo's registerd .Ill dig some more on it and post a Before and After with AOD.

Use Coretemp for VID and Everest.
Use CPU-Z and HWmonitor for vcore and PSU and Mobo volts along with AOD.


CPUTweak On or Off,, Seems when its Off its just as good as when its On for B3's..TLB fix dosnt apply to B3 only optimization tweaks do .Thus CPUtweak is Optimal but with only more Heat involved it seems.,,
The CPU tweak Disabled should ENABLE TLBfix with B2 but Not B3..
B3 will run In a normal powerstate but with performance tweaks disabled when CPU tweak is OFF..It will also not be affected by TLBfix using this Mobo..

Comparison ,,
HWmonitor,, CPU-Z and Coretemp .
Even AODshows a Temp differance Going Red to Green Circle.

CPU TWEAK ON



CPU TWEAK OFF



CPU TWEAK ON AOD monitor Red Circle.



CPU TWEAK OFF AOD monitor GREEN Circle.



CPU TWEAK ON AOD Benchmark. Red



CPU TWEAK OFF AOD Benchmark. GREEN



Im not one to use AOD ,,but i had to see if i was right about the TLBfix being apart of CPUTweak.. For now it seems TLBfix is 100% disabled with it ON/OFF. For B2's you should see a decrease in Performance with AOD Benchmark tool .. It will be a big reduction like 10% if TLB is enabled vs Disabled.

As you can see (CPUtweak) is performance tweaking the CPU and not using TLBfix(disabled for B3 in OFF or ON mode)..
I would run Everest and other programs but wanted to keep this as short as possiable..
In the End CPUtweak OFF will lower the Temps with out a big impact on performance..Matter of fact some may be able to Overclock Higher with it Disabled..

This is the First time ive ever Turned CPUtweak off and with it on i still achieved 3.5ghz..

So Now i guess ill have to see what i can do with it off

Note: OFF vs ON didnt Impact my Voltages r.. if anything im shure it changes how much Power the CPU uses @idle and Under load .

Hope this helps some of ya get higher clocks with out worring about a performance hit from TLBfix,,B3's will be just fine,,

gOtVolTage

[faior]

Its a Phenom Bios tweak other than TLB fix..its for Optimizing Phenom.

I cant remeber names(items it enables) but has to do with optimization and Power on Phenom..It is not related to the TLB fix...

When i had my TA770 and 9950 @3.45ghz Polygon @ Rebelshaven gave me a Bios with all the (Phenom Options enabled)with a seperate TLB disable tweak . The added Optimizations which are NON TLB Bios tweaks inhanced the performance.

Infact it made the Icon in AOD go from yellow(TLBdisabled) to Red(TLBdisabled +Performance tweaks enabled ,,

It also raised the temp a little and performance was increased on the 9950.

P.S Charged,,
Asus79-T gives me higher idle load temps..They are in fact lower when i disable the CPU tweak but still not what My other Mobo's registerd .Ill dig some more on it and post a Before and After with AOD.

Use Coretemp for VID and Everest.
Use CPU-Z and HWmonitor for vcore and PSU and Mobo volts along with AOD.

Yeah the AOD color thingy changes when the tweak is on or off.

Just tested with 3Dmark06, without the tweak(i pushed the circle in AOD, I think its the same?) it gave 12900 and CPU 4480, with tweak its 13100 and 4580, so little raise yes. And maybe the temps arent really so high even though what the board gauges tells. Leaving it on.

[gOtVoltage]

here are my bios screens:









i ran prime as i typed this... at 1.4875v this time.. and it happened again.

22:01:54 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),46,34,46,100,3302.11
22:02:04 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),46,34,47,100,3302.11
22:02:14 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),31,31,47,100,1651.06
22:02:24 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),30,30,47,100,1651.06
22:02:34 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),46,30,47,100,3302.11
22:02:45 12/05/08,CPU#0 (Core#0),46,30,47,100,3302.11

also, why can i only choose 1.6GHz as max HT link?

Well your @ 2000HT and the NB is @ 2000mhz

HT can not be higher than NB.

254x8 = 2000ht

1.6 = 8
1.8 = 9
2.0 = 10

Crashing sounds like the CPU or NB needs more Volts to stay stable..

Is it crashing after the CPU is Loaded and HOT?..

I dont know what your temp is ?

Low volts can crash after using prime ,, as heat builds up CPU will need more volts to keep stable..

Also TOO much Volts it will CRASH SOONER.

If your temps are good try raising the NB only..If it crashes right away its a good indication that you may not be running enuff volts or are too hot.

KEEP the HT @ 1.6 and only change NB from 8 to 9. Make shure your HT is @1.6 and not 1.8 when you change NB,, Run Prime ..If your low on Volts or its heat.. Youll crash quik once the Nb is raised.

If you can prime @ 2280nb then You may need to Raise the CPU volts a little to stabilize the System.

1.45-1.5v NB is good for 2400mhzNB even on stock cooler. I suspect your CPU need volts if anything.

Try the NB @ x9 = 2286mhz ,,
254 x 9 = 2286nb

Make shure HT is 1.6 when you change NB to x9

Try that then post results with TEmps..

Also Use the 602bios the 504 crashes alot ,especially with ACC,, trust me.

[MadDias]

Is it crashing after the CPU is Loaded and HOT?..

I dont know what your temp is ?

Low volts can crash after using prime ,, as heat builds up CPU will need more volts to keep stable..

Also TOO much Volts it will CRASH SOONER.

If your temps are good try raising the NB only..If it crashes right away its a good indication that you may not be running enuff volts or are too hot.


Also Use the 602bios the 504 crashes alot ,especially with ACC,, trust me.

it crashes during prime. so it´s 100%loaded and after 20mins i think it also has it´s max temp.
u can see my temp in the coretemp log that i added in my post.
(core)"current temp","low temp","high temp", "load", frequenzy
u can also see the thermal throttle kicking in, this time even at 46°C.
i´m on the 0602 bios.
i really hope they enable adjustments for temp readings in the next bios. i got that on my old dfi board. i can´t work with a board that´s reading +20°C compared to coretemp and therefore cripples my cpu because it thinks it´s too hot, even when i set the temp reading to "ignore".

[charged3800z24]

what are you using to read the temps? The M3A79-T has buggy sensors.


I use Core Temp and I get temps about 10ºc lower than in the bios and pc probe.

Also AOD, HW monitor and every other programs registers the same as core temp. But PC Probe and the BIOS report way higher temps.

I use HWMonitor and AOD. The Bios says the same as those 2. I run 3.3ghz 1.4v and have 35*c idle right now. I am under 30 on the MA790GP-DS4H.

Yup,, it reads the Temps higher than normal or any other Mobo ive used so far 770/790gx/790fxsb600/790FX750..It seems ASUS 79-T reads about 8-10c higher across the Board in Bios and in Windows.

Note:@ 22c room abiant temp

All other Mobos @ 1.55vid with 1.65volts for both NB and CPU ive always been @ 26c Idle..

The ASUS 79-T puts me @32c Idle @ 1.55vid and 1.65volts for both NB/CPU.

Same Watercooling was used for all of my Mobos. Ive even tried my 6000+ which also reads about 8c higher..So its a Mobo Bios issue indeed

Sometimes with ACC on +4 or +2 it would lower the temp some but never below 30c idle on my 9950(140watt)@3.5ghz

So you are seeing the same thing I am then...?