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    Smile AMD Shows Deneb (Phenom II) pictures of 6.2GHz CPUz etc

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    I really hope you guys can do the same thing with retail chips. It will make all of our wallets much much happier

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    lol, ah, er that could be any chip. kind of a crappy pic no showing the cpu, but oh well, exciting none the less i spose!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneil View Post
    lol, ah, er that could be any chip. kind of a crappy pic no showing the cpu, but oh well, exciting none the less i spose!
    it looks to me as though they are just messing with Francois
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneil View Post
    lol, ah, er that could be any chip. kind of a crappy pic no showing the cpu, but oh well, exciting none the less i spose!
    yes because it is from a photo album of amd's show, with all the other photo's that were taken there aswell... they of course used an intel chip...

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    lol. on multi alone no less!
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    hehe, we'll soon find out

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    I was there. I saw it with my own eyes -> http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...d.php?t=731996

    I'm waiting to hear back from AMD as to what else I can disclose.

    In the mean time, I thoroughly believe that the OC elite will take these processors further.
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    "HT Link" , not " Rated FSB"

    Cpu-z refers to "Rated FSB" when the processor is Intel, correct?

    If i'm not wrong (and there is no kind of trick, of course), since "HT Link" is shown, it is an AMD processor ?

    Just a guess...correct me if i misunderstood..

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    Beautiful pic imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by felix_w View Post
    Cpu-z refers to "Rated FSB" when the processor is Intel, correct?
    If i'm not wrong (and there is no kind of trick, of course), since "HT Link" is shown, it is an AMD processor ?
    Italians would say "perspicace"....
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    Looks like it's on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by felix_w View Post
    Cpu-z refers to "Rated FSB" when the processor is Intel, correct?

    If i'm not wrong (and there is no kind of trick, of course), since "HT Link" is shown, it is an AMD processor ?

    Just a guess...correct me if i misunderstood..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zucker2k View Post
    Looks like it's on!
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    Just 20mhz on the HTT would add 620mhz to that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by spicypixel View Post
    Just 20mhz on the HTT would add 620mhz to that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcbalaban View Post
    If it's true - Who cares?!
    I'm just saying, with the multi only being used, there's some room for some HTT tweaking, and with the multi being so high and as long as it budges a bit on the HTT then we're in for some fun to watch.

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    maybe the memory is unlinked so there's no need to touch the HTT speed?

    /wild speculation

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcbalaban View Post
    Italians would say "perspicace"....
    In japanese, please ?

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    But this is a retail chip or Extreme Edition without sensors ? Same this:
    http://img.chw.net/sitio/breves/200811/26_Intel_EEE.JPG
    Sorry for my bad english.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEvil View Post
    maybe the memory is unlinked so there's no need to touch the HTT speed?

    /wild speculation
    actually that would make a lot of sense, plus the nb speed is down to 1000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by villa1n View Post
    actually that would make a lot of sense, plus the nb speed is down to 1000.
    HT link is down to 1000mhz the NB speed is independent of that so it could be much much higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spicypixel View Post
    I'm just saying, with the multi only being used, there's some room for some HTT tweaking, and with the multi being so high and as long as it budges a bit on the HTT then we're in for some fun to watch.
    Yeah, from what I saw as well as after having a hands on play, I believe we'll see higher frequencies obtained by the OC elite with combinations of lower multipliers (than used by AMD @ the demo) and higher bus frequencies. Here's a snippet from a post I made on OCAU replying to dino on this point:

    However, my comment in regards to the extreme clocking regulars doing better is based on the fact that the demonstration was done simply using the multiplier for frequency increases. This meant that the bus frequency was being left to 200MHz and simply multipliers applied at intervals of 0.5x were used for frequency increases.

    From my play on the test beds provided (GIGABYTE motherboard and either OCZ Reaper or Corsair Dominator memory with Deneb ES + stock heatsink and rounded out by a HD4870X2) I found it much easier to gain additional CPU frequency by lowering the HTT multi by one and then increasing the HT bus frequency as well as the CPU multiplier.

    So in terms of this overclocking information being information that was shown to me or told to me by AMD, it's actually information that was obtained through observation and use - also out of all the media there I was the only one with sub-zero experience/knowledge and therefore a lot of information was obtained just quietly chatting with the guys responsible for the demo both before, during and afterwards. I've got further info like voltages used for what frequencies but that's currently NDA covered - well, the frequencies are but they got up to using 1.95v dropping to 1.936v and didn't go above 2v due to blowing caps on the motherboard (already sent some emails regarding this so hopefully a revision on it's way).
    Also on this note, all the media were getting stuck at ~3.9GHz because they were only using multiplier while with a combination of settings I hit 4.1GHz with minimal effort. This further adds weight to the concept that the chips have potential to go further in the hands of experienced overclockers using combinations of settings.

    An interesting side note: The maximum multiplier available is currently 48x so there's plenty of multiplier headroom
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