Modded ASUS P5Q/Pro/Deluxe/Premium BIOS

[philbrown23]

well the 704M bios has MAJOR raid 0 problems just jhangs at boot if I set sata to raid, and major usb mass storage probs, wont post if my 500gb usb 2.0 drive is plugged in with sata set to IDE, so I flashed back as I run raid0 on 1 of my o/s's and need my usb hdd, but with mem perf on that bios I was able to get a PL of 8 instead of 10! where can the PL be set in bios???? just cant find it?

[samsonJS]

Ai Transaction Booster, first setting above the pull-ins, I can't recall the name they give it right now.

[philbrown23]

thanks m8 now when I set that the ram boots are what its rated at, why when on auto it boots at ed up speeds?? sounds like asus has some teeny auto bugs but hey at least they have bios support.

[Vazovskiiii]

plz give me the 703/704 for p5q-e

[Ket]

, most users that tend to buy the high end ones to OC it, most users that buy the low end boards run mostly stock... really got me puzzled with your claim(s) Ket...

You got real numbers to back up your claim of the high failure rate ? till now zero dead Pro's, E or Dlx's in my fav shop...

Things like that there are no "real" numbers, you should know that by now. Just some good old fashioned googling.

thanks m8 now when I set that the ram boots are what its rated at, why when on auto it boots at ed up speeds?? sounds like asus has some teeny auto bugs but hey at least they have bios support.

The only auto timing bugs I've noticed are for DRAM RAS# Active to Precharge (should be 15, but sometimes auto sets 18), Row Refresh Cycle Time (bit variable this, but again doesn't always set the spd value) and I think the other one was Write to Pre delay, sometimes sets this slightly tighter than spd.

plz give me the 703/704 for p5q-e

Link is on the first page.

[Leeghoofd]

plz give me the 703/704 for p5q-e

here you go lad :

P5Q-E 704m.rar

Things like that there are no "real" numbers, you should know that by now. Just some good old fashioned googling.

Well most drops outs are due to inexperience of the end user, not entirely the boards/bios fault... most of the end user aren't aware of what they do, just pump volts and all will be fine... you got the world wide web as your friend ; do some research first before pushing things...and sometimes it takes some time for the engineers to catch up with bios support but we all know that story don't we Even my 680i Striker still works rock solid with an E8500@4Ghz

These Q-E and Dlx series are for me the more reliable boards I had after the P5K Dlx ones... if set up correctly and bundled with good compatible ram and co they work like a charm... maybe not the best, but solid boards after all...

[Ket]

Some are yes, but a lot of threads I stumbled on researching other things were to do with specific board issues such as fan headers dying, RAID chips just going poof, stuff like that. I'm just glad my P5Q Pro has been good.

[Vazovskiiii]

this bios 704 is not working on my system need bios with full suport of 1200 memory

[samsonJS]

Anyone know about the strange *1200MHZ* memory setting that only appears with everything on auto? Might only be on earlier BIOS versions, I've only observed it on 704m haven't checked others. My memory fails during POST at that clock but I'm curious about what it sets everything to. Actually it fails before POST so I don't even see what it clocks the CPU to. Mabye I need some d9.

It seems like a big red "crazy OC!" button but I can't try it out.

[Ket]

I'll say it again for anyone thats missed it, do NOT mess with different BIOS versions once you found one that is stable and reliable! I can't comment on everything to do with these mBIOSes, I can just say based on my hardware, each of these BIOSes works well, with the best (for me) being 703m.

[MADMAX22]

Hey Ket Im sure if you new how or could find it you would of mentioned it but ...

Is there anything in the bios on the P5Q pro that would limit the FSB to 500? Is there any hardware trick that they do to limit the fsb to 500?

Just seems kind of odd to me that the pro's are all (or pretty much all) limited to exactly 490 to 505 fsb. Wish they would not have locked them or whatever they did to keep them from going higher, seems like a good board otherwise.

[Ket]

Thats a tricky question to answer for many reasons. Firstly, theres always the obvious the current lot of chips asus have just wont push anymore than around 500, second its entirely possible for asus to "lock" a maximum FSB with the use of a different PLL vs. their higher end boards, thirdly heat plays a big factor with the P45 and ICH10R, neither are too happy with temps above 50c or so, so active cooling on both would likely help a lot. Fourth, a lot of people say they have been able to bump their FSB a healthy sum with these mBIOSes (somewhere around 12-20MHz). So assuming theres some kind of "conspiracy" going on with the lower highend P5Q series boards this is a bullet list I would have;

- Different PLL and \ or tighter internal chipset timings used to limit FSB
- Cheaper cooling solution hinders potential (I strongly recommend lapping the NB and SB heatsinks to a nice flat shiny finish and putting a fan on the NB)
- Crippled memory support on lower models possibly plays a factor. (In fact, I'm willing to put my neck on the line and say if it wasn't for me changing various things and letting the entire net know about my findings when the P5Q Pro first came out, and possibly plain P5Q, still wouldn't be able to hit 1000MHz memory stable nevermind 1200MHz and asus would blame it on the memory, even those who have memory rated for 1000MHz or faster)

[norain]

, most users that tend to buy the high end ones to OC it, most users that buy the low end boards run mostly stock...

That actually has absolutely nothing to do with what he said:

Originally Posted by Ket View Post
Nope, only the P5Q and P5Q Pro have a 1501 BIOS so far, I guess asus realised the "lower" highend boards are actually better than the supposed higher class P5Q series boards Like anything, the more complex something is made the higher the failure rate, and from what I've seen theres been A LOT of -E and Deluxe RMAs but RMAs fro the non Pros, Pros and Premiums RMAs are practically unheard of.

He's saying that the lower end boards may actually perform better than the high end boards because the high end boards are loaded down with a bunch of extra crap that hurts performance more than it helps.

YOU'RE saying that people who buy lower end boards tend to overclock less than those that buy higher end boards. (And actually the burden of proof is on you and not him. Anyone in the know would know that just because a board has eighteen Ethernet ports, wi-fi, and a satellite dish, doesn't mean it's going to get you the best clocks.)

So that's like Ket and I talking about how much we liked the new James Bond movie and you suddenly asking us to prove that the entertainment industry's revenues don't go up in a time of crisis.

[norain]

Sorry for the double post (but this is a completely different idea).

I can't get my Crucial Ballistix to work for the life of me on 1406m. Any ideas?

Also... I can't get the board (P5Q Pro) to boot with the CMOS jumper in the default position. It ONLY boots with the jumper completely off.

[Ket]

Thats weird :S try flashing your BIOS with a different one? might solve both issues.

[norain]

Thats weird :S try flashing your BIOS with a different one? might solve both issues.

Alright. I'll try 1501 and work my way back from there. But I hear some of the earlier bios didn't work with E0 steppings. Is that true?

Lot's of strange things with this board (doesn't boot with a pin on the default position on CLRTC... fans spin and power goes to devices but it doesn't post with Ballistix...)

1501m here I come!

[Vazovskiiii]

Hallo Ket You Have Changed Your Idea To Do Uber Bios? Or You Still Do Not Have Time? : )
And Is There Bios 1501 For P5q-e?

[carepolice]

Hallo Ket You Have Changed Your Idea To Do Uber Bios? Or You Still Do Not Have Time? : )
And Is There Bios 1501 For P5q-e?

I afraid that its impossible to tweak these bioses even further, it will just cause dead bios chips
And no, there is not 1501 for P5Q-E yet, 1406 does fine on -E Board, Bios updating is only needed when system is unstable or some else weird stuff

[Rarebird]

Hi Ket!
P5Q mBIOS 1501 link is broken, pls upload again.

[Leeghoofd]

That actually has absolutely nothing to do with what he said

He's saying that the lower end boards may actually perform better than the high end boards because the high end boards are loaded down with a bunch of extra crap that hurts performance more than it helps.

YOU'RE saying that people who buy lower end boards tend to overclock less than those that buy higher end boards. (And actually the burden of proof is on you and not him. Anyone in the know would know that just because a board has eighteen Ethernet ports, wi-fi, and a satellite dish, doesn't mean it's going to get you the best clocks.)

I'm still referring to the high number of dropouts KET mentioned on the high end segment and less dropouts on the lower end boards... not at all referring to OCability...anyway most of the clockers, disable most of the onboard features or gadgets or whatever... I go with the higher end mobo's just for the better heatsink and bios features...

I sold loads of boards , Pro, E and Dlx versions... till now no drop outs (referring to DEAD boards), but the peeps that tend to push ram and co (read Oc'ers) are usually more sceptical about a boards performance... I'm well aware that does not mean that if you buy a Ferrari that you will not have any issues at all...

Did I ever say that the high ends should clock better due to their extra gadgets ? I told that most peeps that want high FSB action tend to go more rapidly for E or Dlx versions...they have more confidence in the better heatsink design, more phases, better capacitors, more features in the bios... whatever makes the client tick... the former are not gadgets but might be essentials to a solid clock... gadgets to me are eg expressgate, 4 lan ports etc...

Totally different as what you are pointing at me, but could be my english as it's no my mother tongue...and I got misinterpreted. I just wanted to see if he had some numbers to prove that their are way more dropouts in the higher price category... and almost none in the lower end... for an example some users even want an RMA because a LED stopped working... I prefer to swap mobo's to those that have real issues, the ones with the minor defaults or nagging about nothing clients go the normal RMA way...

Till now I assembled about 20 P5Q series in total... some for old people that just want to surf, for gamers, musicians,... no drop outs yet... I just chose the boards according to their preferences, wishes... I don't have to prove anything : I just know what I see in the shop, on forums and experience on LAN parties... most users don't even OC at all and have zero ideas how to even enter the bios... Enthousiast as us are not at common as you might think... but the once I know that do mess in the bios will be more drawn to a higher end model then a low end...

Just had to write this as a correction , back on topic plz to KET's lovely biosses....

[Ket]

Alright. I'll try 1501 and work my way back from there. But I hear some of the earlier bios didn't work with E0 steppings. Is that true?

Lot's of strange things with this board (doesn't boot with a pin on the default position on CLRTC... fans spin and power goes to devices but it doesn't post with Ballistix...)

1501m here I come!

If you flash from DOS be sure to include the switch for reprogramming the bootblock as well. I'm not sure if its the same scenario with you but when I got my replacement Pro (CPU fan header seemed like it was on its way out on my first board) the jumper for the chassis intrusion wasn't making proper contact with the pins, and hence wouldn't complete POST. A similar thing may be happening with your CMOS jumper, try switching it for a jumper you have that fits very snug over the pins

There are also still plans for that uber BIOS, just too much to do and not enough time. Lastly, the links do work, their just very popular so a little patience is needed sometimes.

[masteripper]

Hi i am wondering if this modded bios can help me with my problem.
I have an ASUS P5Q-E and no matter what change i make to BIOS it can't reboot again.
Let me try it to explain it as simple as i can
At first No Overclocking for the time being
Lets say i go to BIOS to change e.g Express Gate to Disabled
I save settings and exit the system goes to the procedure of restarting but ....all the fans are spinning and power it seems's its flowing in the system but i have only a totally black screen.
I have to shutdown the system...pull out the plugs....hit power button couple of time (without power) wait a couple more seconds.......put the plug back on and then i can power up my system.It is a rather bizzare annoyance and right now i can stand it but it is holding me back from any kind of playing with BIOS settings.
My system is
MB:P5q-E bios 1406 ( also this situation existed with older one i think it was 12xx)
CPU:6600 E0
RAM:2GB Teamgroup - 800 4/4/4/12 this is the only setting i have changed because once again(i had an msi 965 pl) these mem sticks aren't recognized properly and i have to put the timings,voltage manually....the problem existed and before where everything was auto
HDD: 2 x500
PSU : Enermax 400W
VGA: MSI 7600GT

[Ket]

Your no boot after a BIOS change could be caused by various things, so I'll list them bullet-style.

- NB and \ or SB not having enough voltage, this is a rare occurrence with the P45s, the solution is to notch things up (eg; both 1.3v) and see if it happens after a save and exit.
- You may need to set RAM voltage and timings manually. Depending on the ICs your RAM has, you may need to try up to 2.2v.
- You may need to set CPU voltage and \ or FSB strap manually
- Your PSU might be slightly flaky
- Check all of your connections and jumpers
- Try flashing your BIOS (ideally 1501) power down, set CMOS jumper to "clear", remove battery and power cord, press power button 3-4 times for about 5 secs each time to discharge the capacitors, then leave for 5-10 mins.

[masteripper]

Well thanks for the reply Ket.
I am not overclocking so SB/NB/CPU undervoltage and FSB strap applies to me also???
Ram Voltage and timings are Set manually because (again) auto recognized them as lower.I have teamgroup TXDD2048m800hc4dc-d so i have set them to 2.0V and timings 4-4-4-12 .....everything else auto....the problematic was not affected after changing these even when i removed 1 stick.
Any idea to check "flacky" PSU?
Probably i have to wait for 1501 bios....
Has anyone else encountered such a problem??

[samsonJS]

I had a similar problem that was solved by bumping fsb termination.