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    Quote Originally Posted by BenchZowner View Post
    If I recall correctly, CPUz cannot read the voltage on the Striker II Extreme, and even if it could it cannot be used as a reference at all, since software measurements are inaccurate, usually way off.

    If you have a DMM ( Digital MultiMeter ) then you should check up your Vcore with it.
    If you need guidance, let me know

    p.s. And no, if you have the LoadLine Calibration option set to Enabled, there's nearly no Vdroop at all.
    No I don't have a DMM. If I understand you right I shoud have LLC enabled? And thanks for the reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunslinger690 View Post
    No I don't have a DMM. If I understand you right I shoud have LLC enabled? And thanks for the reply.
    Yes, if you don't want to have any Vdroop set LLC to enabled.
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    Hi guys, been facing issues with my striker II extreme and was wondering if anyone could help me out

    everest memory and 3dmark seem to perform much better at 1600fsb linked and synced with RAM, but immediately at 1601 and above it will just drop like 3k points off everest and 5k points off 3dmark, really strange

    even if i leave the ram unlinked at 1600 and increase the cpu to 1601 and above it will still spark the drop

    from that point onwards, any increases to clock speed will only yield performance boosts from the dropped point onwards

    anyone know why it would do this?

    running : asus striker ii extreme
    intel q9550 quad-core
    kingston hyperx ddr3-1800 4 X 1GB

    thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcex View Post
    Hi guys, been facing issues with my striker II extreme and was wondering if anyone could help me out

    everest memory and 3dmark seem to perform much better at 1600fsb linked and synced with RAM, but immediately at 1601 and above it will just drop like 3k points off everest and 5k points off 3dmark, really strange

    even if i leave the ram unlinked at 1600 and increase the cpu to 1601 and above it will still spark the drop

    from that point onwards, any increases to clock speed will only yield performance boosts from the dropped point onwards

    anyone know why it would do this?

    running : asus striker ii extreme
    intel q9550 quad-core
    kingston hyperx ddr3-1800 4 X 1GB

    thanks in advance!
    Hey Tcex I don't mean to divert from your question but could you post your BIOS settings with which you are able to reach 1600Mhz stable on both FSB and Ram? I'm stable at 3.2Ghz with the same setup but I'm having a hard time reaching 1600Mhz and having to pump pretty high voltages (Core 1.425, NB 1.6, testing now with quad running at ~69C and NB ~61C under load, btw those are in Bios, CPU-Z returned Vcore as something along 1.376 if I remember correctly).

    Edit: IBT failed >.<
    Last edited by Bobly; 11-22-2008 at 08:48 AM.
    Sub-Silentio: Stable 3.83Ghz:
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    | Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz ....... | Lian Li V2010 ........... | DDC3.2 w/ XSPC Top ... | Bios .. 1104 |
    | EVGA GeForce GTX 280 1024MB ........... | Zalman ZM1000-HP ........ | TFC 480 .............. | Vcpu . 1.36V |
    | Asus Striker II Extreme nForce 790i ... | Razer Lachesis .......... | Zalman ZM-F3 ......... | V nb . 1.50V |
    | Corsair XMS3 DHX DDR-1600 7-7-7-20 .... | Razer Lycosa ............ | D-Tek Fuzion V2 ...... | V sb . 1.50V |
    | WD 300GB Velociraptor ................. | Hyundai W240D-PVA 24" ... | EK-FC280 ............. | Vmem . 1.90V |
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    All suggestions welcome - Overclocking tips here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...d.php?t=208522

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobly View Post
    Hey Tcex I don't mean to divert from your question but could you post your BIOS settings with which you are able to reach 1600Mhz stable on both FSB and Ram? I'm stable at 3.2Ghz with the same setup but I'm having a hard time reaching 1600Mhz and having to pump pretty high voltages (Core 1.425, NB 1.6, testing now with quad running at ~69C and NB ~61C under load, btw those are in Bios, CPU-Z returned Vcore as something along 1.376 if I remember correctly).

    Edit: IBT failed >.<
    hi Bobly, mostly on auto voltages now as i try to figure out whats wrong with the post-1600fsb range, but do have ram set to 1.9

    core and nb voltages iirc are nowhere near as high as 1.425 and 1.6, thats really odd and makes me think that it isnt voltage pumping that is the problem with yours atm

    what happens as you near 1600? no POST?

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    Posting is hardly ever an issue, just can't get linpack stable :/ Auto works until 3Ghz (1400), 3.2Ghz (1505) requires some tweaking (namely NB 1.54 if I remember right), 3.4Ghz I haven't managed to get stable yet :/
    Sub-Silentio: Stable 3.83Ghz:
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    | Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz ....... | Lian Li V2010 ........... | DDC3.2 w/ XSPC Top ... | Bios .. 1104 |
    | EVGA GeForce GTX 280 1024MB ........... | Zalman ZM1000-HP ........ | TFC 480 .............. | Vcpu . 1.36V |
    | Asus Striker II Extreme nForce 790i ... | Razer Lachesis .......... | Zalman ZM-F3 ......... | V nb . 1.50V |
    | Corsair XMS3 DHX DDR-1600 7-7-7-20 .... | Razer Lycosa ............ | D-Tek Fuzion V2 ...... | V sb . 1.50V |
    | WD 300GB Velociraptor ................. | Hyundai W240D-PVA 24" ... | EK-FC280 ............. | Vmem . 1.90V |
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    All suggestions welcome - Overclocking tips here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...d.php?t=208522

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    may be due to RAM timings, but im only guessing here

    the difference is that you're running 1600 RAMs, have you tried loosening the timings?

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    Ram is set to stock value according to Corsair :/ The ram is fine with the same settings at CPU stock speed, ideally I'd like to be able to get the CPU to about 3.2-3.6 without having to loose out on the RAM.
    My guess is VTT/PLL need fine tuning but I have no idea what to set them to >.< Trying to highest value in the BIOS before it goes from green to yellow to see how that goes :/ (PLL 1.6, VTT 1.3)
    Sub-Silentio: Stable 3.83Ghz:
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    | Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz ....... | Lian Li V2010 ........... | DDC3.2 w/ XSPC Top ... | Bios .. 1104 |
    | EVGA GeForce GTX 280 1024MB ........... | Zalman ZM1000-HP ........ | TFC 480 .............. | Vcpu . 1.36V |
    | Asus Striker II Extreme nForce 790i ... | Razer Lachesis .......... | Zalman ZM-F3 ......... | V nb . 1.50V |
    | Corsair XMS3 DHX DDR-1600 7-7-7-20 .... | Razer Lycosa ............ | D-Tek Fuzion V2 ...... | V sb . 1.50V |
    | WD 300GB Velociraptor ................. | Hyundai W240D-PVA 24" ... | EK-FC280 ............. | Vmem . 1.90V |
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    All suggestions welcome - Overclocking tips here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...d.php?t=208522

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    I was in the same boat with this Board (ASUS S2E) Finally gave up and returned it. Bought an EVGA FTW 790i Digital PWM and never looked back. Took qx9650 to 4ghz in about 30 seconds on air with no bump in any voltage settings except memory voltage change as default was not right setting for patriot ram.

    First run at 3dmark06 was over 21000 also.

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    Hi,can anyone understand this problem,I have a Striker 2 Extreme,2x GTX280 SLI,Q9550 cpu and 4GB corsair ram,motherboard is watercooled so no heat problems.

    The problem is,when I enable SLI in the Nvidia control panel,I get constant lockups while at the desktop,never while gaming though,I can play Crysis for 4 hours straight with SLI enabled and it never locks,it's only while browsing the net with opera,or encoding a movie with ConvertXtoDvd 3 or similar programs,will the pc lock,I don't get the blue screen,I get the hour glass thing and eventually it will just lock,having to cold boot it with the reset button.

    Here is the rediculas part,the bit I can't understand,this problem only happens when I have SLI enabled at high resolutions,if I enable SLI at 1920x1080 and start browsing the net or encode a movie,the pc will lock within an hour or less,but if I put the resolution back to 1280x270 and set SLI,the pc is totally stable,never locks,I can run it for months at 1280x720 with SLI enabled and it never locks up,it's only when I run the pc at 1920x1080 with SLI enabled will it lockup all the time.

    The only difference I can see with the cards,is when I have SLI enabled at 1280x720,Everest says both cards are running at 300mhz idle speeds,and when I have 1920x1080 running with SLI Everest says both cards are running at 400mhz each,so the cards go up an extra 100mhz each running SLI at higher res,not sure if that is the cause,I even upgraded my 1000w PSU to the Corsair HX-1000W thinking I might of been under powered,but it didn't help at all.

    I don't think the motherboard is faulty because this is my second Striker 2 Extreme and they have both had the same problem,I have ruled out it being a heat problem because with the water cooling,the NB sits at around 24c and never goes over 30c,the SB sits around 45c and the cpu never goes over 50c under full load,that's with the cpu overclocked at 3.8ghz.

    This problem happens with the cpu at stocks speeds and when it's overclocked,doesn't seem to make any difference,the cpu is stable at 3.8ghz because I can run prime95 for over 9 hours on blend and get no errors,and I ran that IntelBurnTest 20 times and passed all tests.

    It is a really anoying problem,how I can have a perfectly stable SLI system at 1280x720,and as soon as I try the res up to 1920x1080 with SLI I get constant locking,really doesn't make any sense.
    Does anyone have any advice that might help me sought this problem out.

    Currently my bios specs are

    Required System Specifications
    PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = Corsair HX-1000W
    CPU = Q9550
    RAM = 4GB DDR3 Corsair TW3X4G1800C8DF PC-14400 (1800MHz) 8-8-8-24
    HDD = 2x WD 1TB and 300GB WDRaptor
    VGA1 = XFX 280GTX Extreme 1gig
    VGA2 = XFX 280GTX Extreme 1gig
    SPU ( Sound Card ) = Onboard
    NorthBridge Cooling = watercooled
    SouthBridge Cooling = watercooled
    Mesfets both watercooled
    CPU Cooling = watercooled
    RAM Cooling = Corsair cooler
    nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 15.23
    ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 180.48
    Sound Card Drivers Version = ASUS site ones.
    BIOS version 0801 REQUIRED - Currently using 1104

    BIOS Settings
    Extreme Tweaker
    CPU Level Up = Auto
    Memory Level Up = Auto
    AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
    CPU Multiplier = 8.5
    FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
    FSB - Memory Ratio = Synch
    FSB (QDR) MHz = 1800
    MEM (DDR) MHz = 1800
    LDT Frequency = 5x
    PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
    PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
    SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = auto
    SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

    Memory Timing Setting
    P1 = Enabled
    P2 = Enabled
    tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 8
    tRCD = 8
    tRP = 8
    tRAS = 24
    Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
    tRRD = auto
    tRC = auto
    tWR = auto
    tWTR = auto
    tFAW = auto
    tRD = auto
    tRTP = auto
    tRFC = auto
    tREF = auto

    Over Voltage
    CPU Voltage = 1.46V
    Loadline Calibration = disabled
    CPU PLL Voltage = auto
    CPU VTT Voltage = auto
    Memory Voltage = 1.84V
    NB Core Voltage = 1.60V
    SB Core Voltage = 1.60V
    CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = auto
    CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = auto
    CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = auto
    CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = auto
    NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
    DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
    DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
    DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
    DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF

    CPU Configuration
    CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled
    Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
    Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
    Execute Disable Bit = Disabled
    Virtualization Technology = enabled
    Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
    CPU Core 2 = Enabled
    CPU Core 3 = Enabled
    CPU Core 4 = Enabled

    Spread Spectrum Control
    CPU Spread Spectrum = auto
    PCIE Spread Spectrum = auto
    MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = auto
    SATA Spread Spectrum = auto
    LDT Spread Spectrum = auto
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    Quote Originally Posted by vtss120204 View Post
    Hi,can anyone understand this problem,I have a Striker 2 Extreme,2x GTX280 SLI,Q9550 cpu and 4GB corsair ram,motherboard is watercooled so no heat problems.

    The problem is,when I enable SLI in the Nvidia control panel,I get constant lockups while at the desktop,never while gaming though,I can play Crysis for 4 hours straight with SLI enabled and it never locks,it's only while browsing the net with opera,or encoding a movie with ConvertXtoDvd 3 or similar programs,will the pc lock,I don't get the blue screen,I get the hour glass thing and eventually it will just lock,having to cold boot it with the reset button.

    Here is the rediculas part,the bit I can't understand,this problem only happens when I have SLI enabled at high resolutions,if I enable SLI at 1920x1080 and start browsing the net or encode a movie,the pc will lock within an hour or less,but if I put the resolution back to 1280x270 and set SLI,the pc is totally stable,never locks,I can run it for months at 1280x720 with SLI enabled and it never locks up,it's only when I run the pc at 1920x1080 with SLI enabled will it lockup all the time.

    The only difference I can see with the cards,is when I have SLI enabled at 1280x720,Everest says both cards are running at 300mhz idle speeds,and when I have 1920x1080 running with SLI Everest says both cards are running at 400mhz each,so the cards go up an extra 100mhz each running SLI at higher res,not sure if that is the cause,I even upgraded my 1000w PSU to the Corsair HX-1000W thinking I might of been under powered,but it didn't help at all.

    I don't think the motherboard is faulty because this is my second Striker 2 Extreme and they have both had the same problem,I have ruled out it being a heat problem because with the water cooling,the NB sits at around 24c and never goes over 30c,the SB sits around 45c and the cpu never goes over 50c under full load,that's with the cpu overclocked at 3.8ghz.

    This problem happens with the cpu at stocks speeds and when it's overclocked,doesn't seem to make any difference,the cpu is stable at 3.8ghz because I can run prime95 for over 9 hours on blend and get no errors,and I ran that IntelBurnTest 20 times and passed all tests.

    It is a really anoying problem,how I can have a perfectly stable SLI system at 1280x720,and as soon as I try the res up to 1920x1080 with SLI I get constant locking,really doesn't make any sense.
    Does anyone have any advice that might help me sought this problem out.

    Currently my bios specs are

    Required System Specifications
    PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = Corsair HX-1000W
    CPU = Q9550
    RAM = 4GB DDR3 Corsair TW3X4G1800C8DF PC-14400 (1800MHz) 8-8-8-24
    HDD = 2x WD 1TB and 300GB WDRaptor
    VGA1 = XFX 280GTX Extreme 1gig
    VGA2 = XFX 280GTX Extreme 1gig
    SPU ( Sound Card ) = Onboard
    NorthBridge Cooling = watercooled
    SouthBridge Cooling = watercooled
    Mesfets both watercooled
    CPU Cooling = watercooled
    RAM Cooling = Corsair cooler
    nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 15.23
    ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 180.48
    Sound Card Drivers Version = ASUS site ones.
    BIOS version 0801 REQUIRED - Currently using 1104

    BIOS Settings
    Extreme Tweaker
    CPU Level Up = Auto
    Memory Level Up = Auto
    AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
    CPU Multiplier = 8.5
    FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
    FSB - Memory Ratio = Synch
    FSB (QDR) MHz = 1800
    MEM (DDR) MHz = 1800
    LDT Frequency = 5x
    PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
    PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
    SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = auto
    SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

    Memory Timing Setting
    P1 = Enabled
    P2 = Enabled
    tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 8
    tRCD = 8
    tRP = 8
    tRAS = 24
    Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
    tRRD = auto
    tRC = auto
    tWR = auto
    tWTR = auto
    tFAW = auto
    tRD = auto
    tRTP = auto
    tRFC = auto
    tREF = auto

    Over Voltage
    CPU Voltage = 1.46V
    Loadline Calibration = disabled
    CPU PLL Voltage = auto
    CPU VTT Voltage = auto
    Memory Voltage = 1.84V
    NB Core Voltage = 1.60V
    SB Core Voltage = 1.60V
    CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = auto
    CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = auto
    CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = auto
    CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = auto
    NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
    DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
    DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
    DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
    DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF

    CPU Configuration
    CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled
    Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
    Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
    Execute Disable Bit = Disabled
    Virtualization Technology = enabled
    Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
    CPU Core 2 = Enabled
    CPU Core 3 = Enabled
    CPU Core 4 = Enabled

    Spread Spectrum Control
    CPU Spread Spectrum = auto
    PCIE Spread Spectrum = auto
    MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = auto
    SATA Spread Spectrum = auto
    LDT Spread Spectrum = auto
    Try increasing your two PCIE Bus Slot's the cards are plugged into from 100 to 110. Should cure the problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtlRich View Post
    Try increasing your two PCIE Bus Slot's the cards are plugged into from 100 to 110. Should cure the problem
    Thanks for the reply AtlRich,I have just set the PCIE Bus Slot's in the bios to 110,you know I never thought to change the PCIE Bus,but now I think about it the cards are plugged into those slots,so that would have a lot to do with things.

    I'll test it for a day or so and see if it freezes anymore,amazing how something as simple as this can cause absolute nightmares with freezing.

    I'll let you know how I go.
    Thanks

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    Hi AtlRich,I tried that setting all day today and have had windows freeze 4 times so far running SLI at 1920x1080,I even put the PCIE Bus Slot's up to 115 to see if it helped,but it still froze,I wasn't sure how high I can go with the PCIE Bus Slot's so for the time being I have set the resolution back to 1280x720 which is stable.

    I wanted to ask you what's the highest I can go with PCIE Bus Slot's before I start doing damage,should I set it to 120 or higher,this problem is so frustrating,I mean when I had it running at 1920x1080 with SLI enabled today,I could play a game as much as I liked,I played that new tomb raider game for about 3 hours,but soon as I go back to the desktop and start browsing the web with opera and have a movie encoding,the pc freezes.

    Basically if I want to have the pc running at 1920x1080 with SLI,I have to enable SLI when I want to play a game,and disable SLI when I finish playing the game,1280x720 doesn't have these problems,very strange.

    Do you think I should keep upping the PCIE Bus Slot's.

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    Raising the PCI Express BUS Frequency will only "harm" your system's stability than enhance it.
    Especially on the nF790i chipset those have been serious troublemakers.
    Set them back to 100MHz.

    I will more than likely check your configuration and give you a new configuration to try out later on today.
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    Yeah it was worth a try though,I have been fighting this problem for about 6 months now and I am willing to try anything at this point,but I will go and set them back to 100,thanks BenchZowner that would be great if you could work out a new configuration.

    I am at a loss what to do with the bios setting,because I have the cpu at 3.8ghz 9 hours prime95 stable and the IntelBurnTest stable aswell,so there must be some sought of bios settings conflicting with the 2 graphics cards.

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    Is there a problem getting the qx9650 to 4ghz on this board at lower voltages ive tryed 1.475 vcore 1600fsb linked and synced with 4gig corsair memory 1600 cl7 just cant get it stable at that vcore wants more,i have a qx9650 chip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kullymontana View Post
    Is there a problem getting the qx9650 to 4ghz on this board at lower voltages ive tryed 1.475 vcore 1600fsb linked and synced with 4gig corsair memory 1600 cl7 just cant get it stable at that vcore wants more,i have a qx9650 chip.
    Not really.
    The voltage requirement depends on the CPU itself.

    Do you have the Load-Line Calibration option enabled ?
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    No i got it disabled i really have had a lot of problems with getting this chip at 4ghz on this board stable it just needs to much vcore.I have had LLC enabled before at 1.4375 and it still failed prime95 in pcprobe vcore was showing 1.49 and in cpuz 1.48.Now im using bios 1202 which i have no freeze issues at all on 1600fsb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kullymontana View Post
    No i got it disabled i really have had a lot of problems with getting this chip at 4ghz on this board stable it just needs to much vcore.I have had LLC enabled before at 1.4375 and it still failed prime95 in pcprobe vcore was showing 1.49 and in cpuz 1.48.Now im using bios 1202 which i have no freeze issues at all on 1600fsb.
    With LLC disabled and the CPU Voltage setting set to 1.475V you're supplying the CPU with approx. 1.42V in full load, and that might not be good enough for stable operation of your CPU.
    The minimum voltage required to maintain stability at 4GHz varies from CPU to CPU, and depending on your luck ( or lack thereof ) you might get a decent chip and deal with 4GHz at a very low voltage, or get a bad chip and have to punch 1.45V+ at it for 4GHz.

    If your system becomes fully stable just by changing ( raising ) the CPU Voltage setting in the BIOS then your CPU needs more voltage.
    If raising the CPU voltage only doesn't help, then you're either having instability due to FSB or due to a non-working "Memory Divider", or your RAM isn't stable with your current settings.
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    These are the settings for 3.8ghz i ran prime95 for 16hrs was stable no crash of any cores.



    But 4ghz wants way to much vcore for some reason i have read everywhere else this chip should easliy do 4ghz at low vcore.Could it be the board i just am confused abit any recomendations for me to try out will be most helpfull ask u BenchZoner.
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    Code:
    Required System Specifications
    PSU = be quiet! Straight Power 700W (E6)
    CPU = Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz
    RAM = (2x2GB) OCZ Platinum PC3-12800 / 1600MHz (7-7-7-20)
    HDD = WDC WD3000HLFS-01G6U
    VGA1 = EVGA GeForce GTX 280
    VGA2 ( if you have ) =
    VGA3 ( if you have ) =
    SPU ( Sound Card ) = Creative SB X-Fi Fatal1ty Edition
    NorthBridge Cooling = Stock (fan mounted on case window blowing towards NB)
    SouthBridge Cooling = Stock
    CPU Cooling = Noctua NH-C12P
    RAM Cooling = Stock
    nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 15.23_nforce_winvista64_international_whql
    ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 180.48_geforce_winvista_64bit_international_whql
    Sound Card Drivers Version = 6.0.1.1304
    BIOS version 0801 REQUIRED - BIOS version is 1104
    
    
    BIOS Settings
    
    Extreme Tweaker
    CPU Level Up = Auto
    Memory Level Up = Auto
    AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
    CPU Multiplier = 8.5
    FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Auto
    FSB - Memory Ratio = Auto
    FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333 (Actual FSB 1333.3)
    MEM (DDR) MHz = Auto (Actual MEM 1333.3)
    LDT Frequency = 5x
    PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
    PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
    SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = Auto
    SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled
    
    Memory Timing Setting
    P1 = Auto
    P2 = Auto
    tCL ( CAS Latency ) = Auto (Current 7)
    tRCD = Auto (Current 7)
    tRP = Auto (Current 7)
    tRAS = Auto (Current 20)
    Command Per Clock (CMD) = Auto (Current 1T)
    tRRD = Auto (Current 4)
    tRC = Auto (Current 28)
    tWR = Auto (Current 12)
    tWTR = Auto (Current 16)
    tFAW = Auto (Current 17)
    tRD = Auto (Current 9)
    tRTP = Auto (Current 5)
    tRFC = Auto (Current 60)
    tREF = Auto (Current 7.8uS)
    
    Over Voltage
    CPU Voltage = Auto (1.28V)
    Loadline Calibration = Enabled
    CPU PLL Voltage = Auto (1.50V)
    CPU VTT Voltage = Auto (1.10V)
    Memory Voltage = Auto (1.63V)
    NB Core Voltage = Auto (1.31V)
    SB Core Voltage = Auto (1.48V)
    CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
    CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
    CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
    CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
    NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
    DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
    DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
    DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
    DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto
    
    CPU Configuration
    CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled
    Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
    Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
    Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
    Virtualization Technology = Disabled
    Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
    CPU Core 2 = Enabled
    CPU Core 3 = Enabled
    CPU Core 4 = Enabled
    
    Spread Spectrum Control
    CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
    MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
    SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
    LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled
    
    Problem Description
    I have random freezes (even during BIOS setup!). I have tried many, many settings without satisfying results (system still freezes randomly).
    
    System was quite stable on Full Auto Settings (Load Default Settings option).
    
    Above settings are based on BIOS Default Settings (only settings marked red in Template.txt were changed)... I just checked them and... another freeze :(.
    
    Please save my sanity!

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    I hate to just pile on another issue but this has me confused, details at the bottom:

    Code:
    Required System Specifications
    PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = Zalman ZM-HP1000
    CPU = Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550
    RAM = 1x2GB Corsair DHX XMS3 7-7-7-20 1600MHz DDR3 1.9V (Other module is faulty and out of the system awaiting RMA)
    HDD ( the one where you have your windows installation on ) = Western  Digital 300GB Velociraptor 10,000rpm
    VGA1 = EVGA GTX 280 w/ EK-FC280 Water block
    VGA2 ( if you have ) = n/a
    VGA3 ( if you have ) = n/a
    SPU ( Sound Card ) = SupremeFXII
    NorthBridge Cooling = 40mm Fan placed on the VGA backplate blowing at the NB.
    SouthBridge Cooling = Stock
    CPU Cooling = D-Tek Fuzion V2
    RAM Cooling = 120mm Zalman ZM-F3 aimed towards the Corsair XMS3 heatsinks.
    nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = Still looking for this one though it's been put up to date unless a new one come out within the last month...
    ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 7.15.0011.7813 (DxDiag)
    Sound Card Drivers Version = 6.10.0002.6480 (DxDiag)
    BIOS version 0801 REQUIRED - BIOS Version : 1104
    
    BIOS Settings
    Extreme Tweaker
    CPU Level Up = Auto
    Memory Level Up = Auto
    AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
    CPU Multiplier = 8.5
    FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Unlinked
    FSB - Memory Ratio = Auto
    FSB (QDR) MHz = 1866.7
    MEM (DDR) MHz = 1600
    LDT Frequency = 5x
    PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
    PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
    SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = Auto
    SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled
    
    Memory Timing Setting
    P1 = Auto
    P2 = Auto
    tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 7
    tRCD = 7
    tRP = 7
    tRAS = 20
    Command Per Clock (CMD) = Auto (2T)
    tRRD = Auto (5)
    tRC = Auto (40)
    tWR = Auto (12)
    tWTR = Auto (18)
    tFAW = Auto (25)
    tRD = Auto (9)
    tRTP = Auto (6)
    tRFC = Auto (72)
    tREF = Auto (7.8uS)
    
    Over Voltage
    CPU Voltage = 1.40000V
    Loadline Calibration = Enabled
    CPU PLL Voltage = Auto
    CPU VTT Voltage = Auto
    Memory Voltage = 1.9V
    NB Core Voltage = 1.5V
    SB Core Voltage = Auto
    CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
    CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
    CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
    CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
    NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
    DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
    DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
    DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
    DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto
    
    CPU Configuration
    CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled  - Auto, it doesn't get above 65C, I'd rather keep this enabled in case of water cooling failure.
    Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
    Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
    Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
    Virtualization Technology = Disabled
    Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
    CPU Core 2 = Enabled
    CPU Core 3 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
    CPU Core 4 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
    
    Spread Spectrum Control
    CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
    MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
    SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
    LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled
    
    Problem Description
    I was able to Prime my system for 12-14h twice as well as use it without any weird lock-ups, however if I'm sometimes away, the screen goes black as it should under power saving features but moving the mouse or pressing anything on the keyboard does not wake it up, the only solution is to use the buttons on the front of the case. Now this could happen while it's idle, or while it's Priming over night. As far as I can tell this doesn't ALWAYS happen either, which is what has got me confused...
    Any ideas? Need anymore information?
    Vista Ultimate 64 btw :)
    Sub-Silentio: Stable 3.83Ghz:
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    | Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz ....... | Lian Li V2010 ........... | DDC3.2 w/ XSPC Top ... | Bios .. 1104 |
    | EVGA GeForce GTX 280 1024MB ........... | Zalman ZM1000-HP ........ | TFC 480 .............. | Vcpu . 1.36V |
    | Asus Striker II Extreme nForce 790i ... | Razer Lachesis .......... | Zalman ZM-F3 ......... | V nb . 1.50V |
    | Corsair XMS3 DHX DDR-1600 7-7-7-20 .... | Razer Lycosa ............ | D-Tek Fuzion V2 ...... | V sb . 1.50V |
    | WD 300GB Velociraptor ................. | Hyundai W240D-PVA 24" ... | EK-FC280 ............. | Vmem . 1.90V |
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    All suggestions welcome - Overclocking tips here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...d.php?t=208522

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    qx9650 at 1.49vcoe will i kill this chip at these settings seems i can only get 4ghz on this board at those high settings .
    PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) =Thermaltake ToughPower 1200W Modular Power Supply
    CPU =qx9650
    RAM =Corsair 4GB DDR3 DHX 1600C7DHX
    HDD ( the one where you have your windows installation on ) =Hitachi Deskstar P7K500 500GB
    VGA1 =Asus GeForce GTX 280 1024MB GDDR3
    VGA2 ( if you have ) =Asus GeForce GTX 280 1024MB GDDR3
    VGA3 ( if you have ) =
    SPU ( Sound Card ) =
    NorthBridge Cooling =Watercooled
    SouthBridge Cooling =n/a
    CPU Cooling =watercooled
    RAM Cooling =n/a
    nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version =15.23
    ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version =180.48
    Sound Card Drivers Version =
    [b][color=red]BIOS version 1202
    BIOS Settings
    Extreme Tweaker
    CPU Level Up = Auto
    Memory Level Up = Auto
    AI Overclock Tuner = Manual

    CPU Multiplier =10
    FSB - Memory Clock Mode =linked
    FSB - Memory Ratio =sync
    FSB (QDR) MHz =1600
    MEM (DDR) MHz =1600
    LDT Frequency =5
    PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
    PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100

    SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = auto
    SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

    Memory Timing Setting
    P1 =enabled
    P2 =enabled
    tCL ( CAS Latency ) =7
    tRCD =7
    tRP =7
    tRAS =20
    Command Per Clock (CMD) =2t
    tRRD =auto
    tRC =auto
    tWR =auto
    tWTR =auto
    tFAW =auto
    tRD =auto
    tRTP =auto
    tRFC =auto
    tREF =auto

    Over Voltage
    CPU Voltage =14250
    [color=red]Loadline Calibration = Enabled
    CPU PLL Voltage =auto
    CPU VTT Voltage =1.28
    Memory Voltage =1.84
    NB Core Voltage =1.48
    SB Core Voltage =1.50
    CPU GTL REF0 Ratio =-36
    CPU GTL REF1 Ratio =-40
    CPU GTL REF2 Ratio =-40
    CPU GTL REF3 Ratio =-36
    NB GTL REF Ratio =auto
    DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt =auto
    DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt =auto
    DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt =auto
    DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt =auto

    CPU Configuration
    CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled
    Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
    Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled

    Execute Disable Bit =

    Fails at these settings in prime95 pcprobe shows 1.49 vcore
    Last edited by kullymontana; 12-05-2008 at 11:33 AM.

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    Cpu Vtt

    I have read and found that increasing CPU VTT reduces the voltages needed for the CPU.
    i7-930
    Asus Rampage III Extreme
    Corsaire PC3 2000C8 12G
    EVGA 480 GTX
    EVGA 450 for Phyx
    WD VelociRaptor 600
    Hitachi 2TGB Raid Mirror
    Asus Xonar D2X
    Corsair 800D
    Watercooled



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    I raised the vtt to 1.4 which is max as i hear anything over 1.4 i could fry my chip .I also took gtls up to -80,s still fails prime95.I am begining to think is this all worth the hassle and just keep it at 3.6ghz at reasonable voltages runs stable no freezing issues.I give up this chip is a lemon.4ghz was my goal would have been really nice but failure after failure my hands are up in the air.

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