The ***OFFICIAL*** F@H Harassment and discussion thread!!!

[road-runner]

I think that will change quickly. During this race I got several "Normal SMPs" that finished in 20 hours or less on 2 cores of a Q9450 and Q6600. I also had several that completely bogged the machines down and took 2 days to complete. We seem to be nearing the point the SMPs will take 4 cores or better to put up decent points.

Has anyone been able to get folding to run with the i7 in HT mode? Dave said it crashed every time he turned on HT...

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Has anyone been able to get folding to run with the i7 in HT mode? Dave said it crashed every time he turned on HT...

Good question I nagged his head off about it but he didn't have the time he said and didn't run every combo of smp and gpu clients I told him to

Guess fah is abit harder then wcg

[road-runner]

Good question I nagged his head off about it but he didn't have the time he said and didn't run every combo of smp and gpu clients I told him to

Guess fah is abit harder then wcg

Yes it is a lot harder, as one guy posted at the folding forums one time, you have to format, install the O/S, download folding, run it, delete it, delete que dat, files in work folder, wash repeat, format install O/S stand and bow in the direction of Stanford, a lot of swearing and re installs, then babysit the thing then bow in the general direction of stanford again and it might work...

[Marvin_The_Martian]

I think Dave's doesn't mind most of that, but the bowing to stanford

Jezus I need to relax a lil, I already hear this hush from a hammer falling on my head

[WFO]

Yes it is a lot harder, as one guy posted at the folding forums one time, you have to format, install the O/S, download folding, run it, delete it, delete que dat, files in work folder, wash repeat, format install O/S stand and bow in the direction of Stanford, a lot of swearing and re installs, then babysit the thing then bow in the general direction of stanford again and it might work...

Thanks for the laugh RR!!! Clearly his mistake is not bowing in the direction of Stanford at least 6 times daily. 8 is even better.

[Sparky]

I think I'm gonna hit my 2M mark before thanksgiving!

[DrJay]

Around 5400ppd on most 1920 point projects @ 2.9Ghz, very lax ddr2 timings and one SMP client on native linux.
Today, had a p2673 worth 3840 points was getting around 11 minutes per frame.
Another thing to consider other than the size of the cache is the fact that it is 8 way set associative, not 12 way like the 3mb'ers or 16 way like the full 6mb. It would also be good to have a motherboard that will do 470+ FSB with a quad.

Update: Picked up another 2673wu. Times decreased and leveled off at around 10m21s per frame. Pretty much in line with the 5400ppd on the 1920 point wu's. Seems okay for only 2.9Ghz ram running at 420Mhz. By the way, can anyone tell me....how much does system ram speed or timings affect F@H? (with SMP client)

[Marvin_The_Martian]

DrJay depends on the work unit ( or better on the core ). I think dbgromacs utilizes the most bandwidth but can't find the reference for it anymore, and like I said it's also not just the core itself but also the work unit itself. Think wu's with more atoms and especially wu's/core's with explicit solvent models need more cross thread communications ( ~ bandwidth ).

[mstp2009]

Has anyone been able to get folding to run with the i7 in HT mode? Dave said it crashed every time he turned on HT...

Running fine here w/ a B0 stepping Gainstown at 3.2GHz.

Pulling 5000 PPD at 3.2GHz on a pair of 2653 WUs.


Those numbers absolutely CRUSH my Q9550 at 3.5GHz. It's not even close.

[coo-coo-clocker]

Hmmmmmmmm so tempting.
But jeeez the mobo and ram is gonna cost me. Maybe there will be some holiday sales after the i7 initial early-adopter rush slows down...

[OldChap]

Just a "heads up" http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=7063

[DeanZ]

Just a "heads up" http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=7063

hahhahahhahaha NO!!!!

this is the first time F@H has been stable on my machine for a week...no matter what the boost I will never change!!!!

[Sparky]

I ain't touchin' mine, they be workin' fine so I'm leaving them be, they are happy now and I don't want to get nobody grumpy

[Marvin_The_Martian]

I'll not use drivers without knowing what their origin is and they will have to come from either PG ( as recommodation or w/e ) or directly from nvidia as official cuda certified drivers. I will not run other drivers because who will tell me if my eue's will be caused by bd wu's or bad clocks and not bad drivers

[Kingcarcas]

Lulz +1, never download and install stuff that isn't from Nvidia.com

[MaK2000]

I see a few of the big boys on my radar now... Just giving them a heads up that the steam roller is coming through.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Help me guys, I been straying from the path and suddenly found myself in a group of folding haters

Keep me on a shorter chain, so I shall not stray to far again

[road-runner]

Running fine here w/ a B0 stepping Gainstown at 3.2GHz.

Pulling 5000 PPD at 3.2GHz on a pair of 2653 WUs.


Those numbers absolutely CRUSH my Q9550 at 3.5GHz. It's not even close.

I was getting about 2200 for each 2653 smp on my QX9650 @ 4ghz, so around 4400 ppd, also had 2 GPU2s running so...

[Sparky]

I see a few of the big boys on my radar now... Just giving them a heads up that the steam roller is coming through.

Not much I can do here I'll try and move aside to keep from getting hit too hard

I just hit my goal of 2M before the end of the year Hitting it before Thanksgiving was bonus too

[MaK2000]

I will be kind when I roll through the neighborhood. I am hoping to actually ramp up production. I guess we will see if that happens.

[Kingcarcas]

Haha, i can't freakin' get the CPU console client to run again, i reinstalled a vLited version of vista I try doing the simple "Run" and entering the .exe with configonly, i've tried running the command prompt as admin, i've logged in as admin and couldn't get it to run, tried it in different folders urghhhh so i just stopped caring for a while and ran the GPU clients. Man, i tried following the Wiki guide but when i go to properties>run as administrator or whatever you're supposed to do the box is greyed out and i can't do it, even when logged in as admin.

Well i have got it to run, it just doesn't have my username and team, unless that's an issue with Fahmon It runs correctly on my rig but i have the cmd window open, i used to be able to run it as a service IDK what the hell is going on..........i'm getting a new 22'' monitor at least sheeesh..

[MikeB12]

you went through this in the beginning of sept too King and gave up..

movieman "I never smp'ed before" used ths little guide last month and got it going after about 20 minutes.
of course that was after he screwed with it for 2 days on his own and was frustrated, and pming everyone...
then he tried this simple quick and dirty walk thru, and it worked. just don't skip through it and not read everything...
this is one of the shortest little walk thru's around. (not all inclusive for Marvin's needs , but it gets the job done).
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=199283

[Marvin_The_Martian]

I only ment to help

if you follow step one there, installing affinity changer, you can make it easier on yourself and just run www.mtm78.nl/maxfah/publish.htm

Will download, install clients in c:\maxfah\, and configure them. Just still haven't finished the tray control nor can I fully automate it as you still need to follow the guides to configure either deino or mpich

Ow.. and it doesn't drop in the replacement exe as well. I'm slacking sorry

What's more important, an installer, a statistics tracker for xs, an eue watcher? Idk I try to do everything but I guess I should concentrate on one thing and get it finished already

[Sparky]

What's more important, an installer, a statistics tracker for xs, an eue watcher? Idk I try to do everything but I guess I should concentrate on one thing and get it finished already

I'd say, installer (this is what tends to hang up people in the first place), EUE watcher (that is the #2 frustration that some people run into), then the stats tracker. If that helps any.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Thing is I asked PG for coorperation by changing mpich package from gkware installer to zip as is the case with deino already. That would cause me to not have to shell to an external program, I can code the configuration of mpich and deino exactly as in the guides it's not hard to shell command line utils on the background and send input to it, but I feel if I would would code something to automate the gkware setup I'm doing something they don't approve of.

Even thought about another solution, getting mpich from the official site for it and just drop in the client exe, that would eliminate the gkware setup needed to be downloaded and executed. But I don't want to break eula's and like I said I asked about this weeks ago but as off yet haven't gotten a definitive answer

Each time I hit a bump I shift attention to another project, and the former get's neglected. I have plans with the eue watcher to connect to a webservice so eue's from people who want to participate in collection them can be posted automaticly ( if needed, like with wu's which don't send results to the servers aka 5506 ). I been working on a signature generator for xs folding team, I fixed my sql server so I'm not dropping tables anymore ect. But no single thing is done because I will hit a bump and my problems seem to make me not want to acknowlegde hitting a bump by moving on to something diffrent