PCPER.com: 5 GHZ+ Phenom II Overclock on Dry Ice, 6Ghz on LN2

[demonkevy666]

That page lists "Graphics: Gigabyte 4870X2 2048Mb @ stock"

those scores are massive even with one card.

[informal]

I posted this in amd section,but might as well here since more people reads news.
They did update the blog with Crysis Warhead numbers(4870X2 used and only Deneb @ stock 3Ghz for now):
http://markbench.blogspot.com/2008/1...ead-deneb.html

Anyone knows what numbers C2Q@3Ghz or Core i7 @3-3.2Ghz show in this game and resolution settings with 4870X2?

Crysis Warhead @ Deneb



Only with factory default freqs.


Cpu name: Phenom II 940 (core Deneb, AM2+) @ 3GHz
Motherboard: M3A79-T Deluxe (AMD 790FX+SB750 )
Memory: 4096 Mb CSX 1066MHz (DDR2)
Graphics: Gigabyte 4870X2 2048Mb
Os: Win Vista 64 Service Pack 1
Drivers: Motherboard bios: 0602, Catalyst 8.10, MB chipset 3.0.642.0

Crysis Warhead: DX10 high, shaders very high, 1920x1200x32, AA off

Results:

Average:47fps
Max: 84fps
Min: 36fps

bye: Dred

Its time to sleep fellaz! 4pm! lol

[Calmatory]

Sleep at 4 PM.... ok..

[herderien]

Anyone knows what numbers C2Q@3Ghz or Core i7 @3-3.2Ghz show in this game and resolution settings with 4870X2?

here's what i found, with warhead, not X2 but 2x4870..it shows around 33fps 1900x1200x32 no AA
don't know what is "enthusiast quality" settings though...
cpu doesn't seem to be the bottleneck though as fps is still increasing with 3xGTX280

that would be around 50% more fps with a similar settup

i'm really confused by those numbers, i'd like to see same numbers with same settings on i940
could it be the ram on this X2 vs the ram on regular 4870? the perf gap between GTX ans 4870 could point it


http://www.presence-pc.com/tests/core-i7-jeux-22829/9/

[villa1n]

This is Phenom (940).
@1,92V=5210MHz!
@1,78V=4530MHz!

From the same blog.. here

These numbers seem more inline with what we were expecting to see.

[Calmatory]

From the same blog.. here

These numbers seem more inline with what we were expecting to see.

Alu pot and DICE? Thats like -40 compared to -180 with Cu DD.

What is that pot? I swear I've seen it here in XSF.

[dinos22]

From the same blog.. here

These numbers seem more inline with what we were expecting to see.

what a retarded blog
no useful information there
we want details not some crap like that
if he is really not under NDA and doesnt give a about it why around like that....show proper figures man

[LexDiamonds]

I'd still like to think that based on these preliminary results that 4ghz+ should be easily obtainable for anyone with a good mobo and decent cooling... Looking forward to January!

[dinos22]

I'd still like to think that based on these preliminary results that 4ghz+ should be easily obtainable for anyone with a good mobo and decent cooling... Looking forward to January!

if you read the posts on many threads here you will find that most CPUs will do 3.6GHz rather than 4GHz

[Calmatory]

if you read the posts on many threads here you will find that most CPUs will do 3.6GHz rather than 4GHz

Now if you read this thread closely enough, that was supposed to be the sweet spot possibly with stock cooling.

[villa1n]

Alu pot and DICE? Thats like -40 compared to -180 with Cu DD.

What is that pot? I swear I've seen it here in XSF.

Overclocked (LN2) benchmarks comin' next week!

I assumed ln2 because they make no mention of dice on the blog, and have this under thier first post *above quote*

[illidan]

18 pages and not one picture of that 6.3GHz... why? don't understand, why there is no pictures of this outstanding result.

[jaredpace]

Of these two phenom II chips, which will overclock better?

1. phenom 2 940 AM2+ 125 watt (unlocked)
2. phenom 2 945 AM3 95 watt (unlocked)

[dinos22]

Now if you read this thread closely enough, that was supposed to be the sweet spot possibly with stock cooling.

saaya says 3.6GHz is average
he works for foxconn and can mess around in labs all he wants
linus is testing a chip atm >> 3.6GHz too

i doubt very much that they will run 4GHz THAT easy or if they do it will be cream i'm sure

[Helmore]

18 pages and not one picture of that 6.3GHz... why? don't understand, why there is no pictures of this outstanding result.

Because AMD forbade anyone to do so. NDA in other words. Every journalist had to tone down their articles as AMD did not really want to reveal what these could do under LN2. Maybe to try and contain the hype somewhat. Some people are already yelling things like "Nehalem killer!", which is a bit of an exaggeration at this point in time as there are no reliable performance reviews out yet.

[Macadamia]

if you read the posts on many threads here you will find that most CPUs will do 3.6GHz rather than 4GHz

Saaya most probably has a C1.

C1s overclock exactly close to what's said.

[informal]

saaya says 3.6GHz is average
he works for foxconn and can mess around in labs all he wants
linus is testing a chip atm >> 3.6GHz too

i doubt very much that they will run 4GHz THAT easy or if they do it will be cream i'm sure

You should reread Linus' last post:

Yeah, there are limits to what can be said right now as all of you are well-enough aware.

All I'll say is that the evidence for what I'm saying will be clear enough in due time.

I will qualify my "easy" statement though - It took me about 1/2 an hour to find a quad prime stable (8 hrs) setting of over 3.6GHz on air. Also there was no mussing about with HTT settings, so that should give you a clear idea of what chip this is

" It took me about 1/2 an hour to find a quad prime stable (8 hrs) setting of over 3.6GHz on air." is self-explanatory !

[GAR]

saaya says 3.6GHz is average
he works for foxconn and can mess around in labs all he wants
linus is testing a chip atm >> 3.6GHz too

i doubt very much that they will run 4GHz THAT easy or if they do it will be cream i'm sure

3.6ghz, maybe it will match kentsfield clock for clock???

[Hornet331]

You should reread Linus' last post:

" It took me about 1/2 an hour to find a quad prime stable (8 hrs) setting of over 3.6GHz on air." is self-explanatory !

3610Mhz is also over 3,6ghz.

as long as he dont specifies what "over 3,6Ghz" means, it could be just a few or serveral hundred Mhz more .

[informal]

Or maybe it will match Agena clock for clock?

3610Mhz is also over 3,6ghz.

as long as he dont specifies what "over 3,6Ghz" means, it could be just a few or serveral hundred Mhz more .

Hornet,the dude clearly can't say exact figures as he is limited obviously by NDA.
Just FYI,3.6Ghz is 11%(eleven percent) lower than 4Ghz.Eleven percent is nothing,especially as we know by now how well Deneb reacts to additional VCore,provided you have good air cooling.The chip has very low power draw even though default Vcore is 1.35V.So 1.6V is not that high for this gen. of AMD chips.

edit: don't forget the posted benchmark results from that blog could be fake,so we need to keep that possibility in mind.

[dinos22]

what dont you quote saaya's post saying more vcore doesnt help while you're at it

[informal]

Why don't you ask saaya what stepping did he test while you're at it?C1 or C2?ES or retail?

[STaRGaZeR]

what dont you quote saaya's post saying more vcore doesnt help while you're at it

It'd hurt AMD

When is the NDA lifted so we can see the real thing and not this damn speculation and useless blabla? Hey I SWEAR I have a 10GHz i7! ON AIR! 1,6v is NOTHING. But I won't let you see it beause I'm under my own NDA, instead I'll tease you a bit. Are you jealous?

They better release some real evidences of this soon.

[mAJORD]

I would belive that. It's typical of 65nm chips especially, that they respond to cooling much more than Vcore. 1.45v was the sweetspot on them if you couldn't get temps way down. Pumping more volts on air, even very good air results in bugger all more headroom.

notably different to the intel's

but anyway, as mentioned, what is the stepping, and how old are saaya's chips?

[AbelJemka]

It'd hurt AMD

When is the NDA lifted so we can see the real thing and not this damn speculation and useless blabla? Hey I SWEAR I have a 10GHz i7! ON AIR! 1,6v is NOTHING. But I won't let you see it beause I'm under my own NDA, instead I'll tease you a bit. Are you jealous?

They better release some real evidences of this soon.

Why don't you let our guys speculate? If you're not interested about those speculations leave this thread and wait January 8th