Quote Originally Posted by Fr3ak View Post
I don't think anyone has doubts about the ability of manufacturers to manipulate products to get higher speeds, but usually it turns out whether the statements are true or not when the product hits retail. AMD presented a 3GHz Phenom at either Games Convention or Cebit (can't remember), that never hit retail. Even most early CPUs could not be overclocked to 3 GHz. Why you are in such a rush now to show that AMD might have used dirty tricks is still something I don't get. In 6 weeks we will know the result when first CPUs are out and overclocked.

I only hope you will make available what gives you such a performance boost. Changing 8 bits sounds rather complicated. Would be nice to have some solid proof. You said that you could do 6 GHz or that you have done 6 GHz on Nehalem. Interesting if true, but without proof it is just a claim. Now that you made clear, that the 4.8 GHz were done using "dirty tricks" as you might call it makes it sound more reasonable. The CPUs I tried so far, were reaching 85C loaded on 4 cores with about 3.8 GHz and 1.35 V.
Freak what you are forgetting is DrWho works with this stuff for a living. He can do practically anything with these and has the knowledge to do it. The guy is a professional. He knows exactly how these chips work and could make them do practially anything that is physically possible. I wouldn't question him for a minute. he is a highly educated, highly experienced professional.

Now saying that, he can have fun too, and if he wants to clock a chip to 6GHz more power to him. he is under no obligation to share how he did it no more than anyone else here. If he wants to he can, or if he doesn't that is fine too. If he posts the results that would be really cool. He doesn't have to even post a verification for me. His word is good enough for me.