PCPER.com: 5 GHZ+ Phenom II Overclock on Dry Ice, 6Ghz on LN2

[gOJDO]

what cooling for 5.3GHz

LN2 most obviously.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

"One +6 GHz Core i7 please"

I LOL'd real hard here

[massman]

what cooling for 5.3GHz

Dry ice

[dinos22]

wow
probably a 5.8GHz LN2 chip

[massman]

I reckon it was the same chip that hit 6.3G with 1.9v and temps of -180°C

[K404]

How did they deal with board component temps? Id want heaters on the caps etc for temps like that

[DeathReborn]

I want to know how far Phenom II can go on a Cryo-Z or similar cooling, 5GHz would be a blast if possible.

[Helmore]

What exactly (non legal) holds AMD back from enabling xfire on the nvidia chipsets? Is their implementation of the PCIE switch so different?

IIRC Blackbird 002 had a hacked BIOS or something that enabled both SLI and xfire. And apparently neither company complained about it - go HP?

On NVIDIA SLI boards it's the drivers and BOIS that prohibit CFX to work on them, the CFX drivers only check if the cards are CFX compatible (no 3850 with a 4870 for example) and that there are enough PCIe lanes available. The SLI drivers also check if the motherboard is supported, but this 'support' is not some kind of hardware capability and any board with enough PCIe slots with the necessary lanes could support SLI if NVIDIA allowed it. SLI and CFX both use the standard PCIe protocol, so any chip with the needed amount of PCIe lanes should be able to support them. Any limitations to this compatibility come from restrictions put up by either ATI or NVIDIA, although I'm not aware of any restrictions that are made by ATI and so far only NVIDIA has put some limitations on their SLI support.

[RyderOCZ]

How fun is overclocking an i7 920 while running cheap barely overclockable DDR3-1066 RAM?


I dunno...
Are there downward dividers on X58 boards?

Very off topic in an AMD thread, but I will keep this short.
Easy to get several ram speeds.... You don't have a FSB anymore, just multipliers of the BClock.

Play with the Calculator and you can see the possibilities: http://icrontic.com/downloads/nehale...ing-calculator

[Donnie27]

Donnie, there's multi-quote.

Wasn't sure if I wanted to quote at all! The first one is a multi Quote LOL!

[Donnie27]

posts merged.

SLI liscencing is a non-issue. If AMD puts forth a good product and people want it then nV will either have to cough up drivers that allow SLI to the paying consumer or eat cup-o-noodles/macaroni and cheese for a while.

Thanks! Even if Phenom II has moderate sales, AMD will still sale their video cards to folks seeing nVidia's a Tax Phenom II doesn't need nVidia at all IMHO! Our small market (though growing revenue wise) are the only ones who really give a flip anyway! How quickly do we forget nVidia had almost NO affect on the non-supporting SLI on Intel chipsets?

[Rammsteiner]

I mean as in a chipset for the Phenom II's that will support both crossfire and sli.

Wait, I think one of us doesnt get the point

You asked whether AMD has a non-nVidia chipset both supporting CFX and SLI, which was in my eyes some rethorical question since we know AMD doesnt have it.

I answered that if you're pointing out that Intel does have, namely the X58, it ain't really true.

Intel still needs to include, well the motherboard manufacturer, a little chip from nVidia to enable SLI.

So basicly I was wondering if there's another chipset having both CFX and SLI from Intel without the nVidia chip or either of us missed the context of each others post

Not a big deal in anyway, but I guess it got a lot more complex than it could have been though

[Rammsteiner]

Buth with SLI availability you'll still have more sales.

No matter nVidia was quite arrogant at the launch of GT200 and in the end they had to lower the prices to still be competitive, there are always nVidia fanboys/pro-nVidia people around. All the 'TWIMTBP' advertizing catches a lot of people even if they dont even know that this seriously doesnt do anything in performance. Some people just want compatability, also again this doesnt have a lot to do with said logo.

And non-nVidia users, be it permanent or whether they've the best card or not, really wont, or at least shouldnt, care whether they can use it or not. Also if nVidia gets a better card out again you wont have to get another motherboard if you want to have SLI.

[Junos]

Intel still needs to include, well the motherboard manufacturer, a little chip from nVidia to enable SLI.

Correction: nowadays manufacturers can send their mobos for "sli ratification" and pay a small amount of money (about 5$, if I'm correct) for each SLI certified X58-board on sale. They are still used in ûberclass motherboars though (marketing).

[Stukov]

Correction: nowadays manufacturers can send their mobos for "sli ratification" and pay a small amount of money (about 5$, if I'm correct) for each SLI certified X58-board on sale. They are still used in ûberclass motherboars though (marketing).

I imagine its $5 a board sold.

[Drwho?]

"One +6 GHz Core i7 please"

I think you should probably read it like : "Just got it!"

[shawmanus]

Hopefully if AMD matching/exceeding Intel, we will see intel in attack mode soon. They have been snoozing since the 45nm rollout. Nehalem release rollout is awful. But this time they will not want to cede crown to AMD so I am hoping they will aggressively boost clockspeed or release westmere on time.

[[XC] gomeler]

Hopefully if AMD matching/exceeding Intel, we will see intel in attack mode soon. They have been snoozing since the 45nm rollout. Nehalem release rollout is awful. But this time they will not want to cede crown to AMD so I am hoping they will aggressively boost clockspeed or release westmere on time.

Snoozing implies Intel has been doing nothing at all. I'd say it's more like Intel is taking their sweet time on releasing chips. There is no rush to release chips that'll phase out other chips still on sale, might as well take your time and clear out your old stock while you safely hold onto the performance lead. Intel has atleast another 3 months before they have to be even concerned. If Deneb is as powerful as we are being lead to believe then perhaps Intel will worry a little for it's Q9400/Q9550 lines but otherwise they'll still have everything locked down.

[Tonucci]

Hope its true....if performance and value is similar to intel i kinda prefer giving money to the small company

But in the current situation I always (barring ultra cheapo machines) recommend intel.

[informal]

Thanks to tbone8ty in AMD section who posted the link,we have a couple of new bench and OC results for ES 940 from here:
http://markbench.blogspot.com/2008/1...ith-deneb.html
Seems pretty impressive!

[Extelleron]

Thanks to tbone8ty in AMD section who posted the link,we have a couple of new bench and OC results for ES 940 from here:
http://markbench.blogspot.com/2008/1...ith-deneb.html
Seems pretty impressive!

I have to classify the 3dmark results there as "too good to be true." Something is messed up there.

The CPU Queen result looks very good but more in line with reality; if these results are accurate, Deneb will be slightly faster/clk than Yorkfield in that bench.

[demonkevy666]

Thanks to tbone8ty in AMD section who posted the link,we have a couple of new bench and OC results for ES 940 from here:
http://markbench.blogspot.com/2008/1...ith-deneb.html
Seems pretty impressive!

is that one card ??

[Chad Boga]

is that one card ??

That page lists "Graphics: Gigabyte 4870X2 2048Mb @ stock"

[informal]

is that one card ??

They listed the Gigabyte 4870X2 2048Mb in their test setup.So it's basically CF of two 4870s.Still the results ,like Extelleron said,are quite high.Let's hope this is not another fake ,as we approach the launch day.

[Hornet331]

I have to classify the 3dmark results there as "too good to be true." Something is messed up there.

The CPU Queen result looks very good but more in line with reality; if these results are accurate, Deneb will be slightly faster/clk than Yorkfield in that bench.

actually it would be faster, a lot faster. 3ghz Yorkfield with stock X2 scores ~18k in 3dm6.