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    Quote Originally Posted by mockingbird View Post
    Very interesting.

    Thanks for the read.

    It made me wonder whether we really need competition in the market. It's obviously evident that most of the research money that has gone towards these engineering processes must have come from income taxes and other taxes of people around the world.

    Do we really need this much power now? So that users can have 99% uptime on their mission critical search engine :banana::banana::banana::banana:ography queries? And so that governments can set up huge data harvesting warehouses?

    To be honest, I would have been happy with a good optimized dual core Dothan, as we've anyways seen that most optimizations have come from better communication busses, and not pure processing power.

    Coupled with that that programmers would have been held responsible for their bloated software (Cough *microsoft* cough *linux too*), more programmers would have been employed, and thus more people would be able to afford adequate technologies for their purposes.

    What you have here instead are systems and platforms which will always cost a fortune, with only financial respite coming from the fact that they or their platforms will be manufactured under slave labor.

    *clap clap* A huge modern accomplishment for the "evolved man".

    /rant
    You're kidding, right? Nothing in that article suggests the money is coming from the poor like you're making it out. It focuses squarely on the technology. Also, as a programmer and network administrator by trade, I have to say your bloated software conspiracy is pretty weak sauce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mockingbird View Post
    Very interesting.

    Thanks for the read.

    It made me wonder whether we really need competition in the market. It's obviously evident that most of the research money that has gone towards these engineering processes must have come from income taxes and other taxes of people around the world.

    Do we really need this much power now? So that users can have 99% uptime on their mission critical search engine :banana::banana::banana::banana:ography queries? And so that governments can set up huge data harvesting warehouses?

    To be honest, I would have been happy with a good optimized dual core Dothan, as we've anyways seen that most optimizations have come from better communication busses, and not pure processing power.

    Coupled with that that programmers would have been held responsible for their bloated software (Cough *microsoft* cough *linux too*), more programmers would have been employed, and thus more people would be able to afford adequate technologies for their purposes.

    What you have here instead are systems and platforms which will always cost a fortune, with only financial respite coming from the fact that they or their platforms will be manufactured under slave labor.

    *clap clap* A huge modern accomplishment for the "evolved man".

    /rant
    Wut... So is this a rant against taxes? Against pr0n? Against slave labor? Against money? I mean, wake up, we all need those things anyways. Although I can live without pr0n, but for the rest everyone needs that otherwise we wouldnt be anywhere.

    Or we can go back living in trees and playing CSS RL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rammsteiner View Post
    You know, it's actually tireing me to understand the simplistic nonsense.

    Anyway, lets put it this way. They do not win in SuperPI, but their technology is quite good, and with improving their older technology they've done a nice step forward which shows with Deneb.
    Sai WUT?

    Come ON! If you don't win Super-Pi you might as well pack it up and go buy an e-Machines computer or a Packard Bell.

    (Actually the idea of super-pi being important is just as valid as the idea of adding together the percentage losses/gains from a bunch of benchmarks and pretending you have something that actually means something.)
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