Deneb vs Agena..feel Free to "speculate"

[EvilBlitz]

m411b and Gener_AL did you read my post correctly? Prices are NOT directly comparable across countries. I know that you Brits get ripped off compared to the yanks as well Gener_AL.
m411b. Gener_AL made the comment that x58 mobo alone is a 9950 +790FX+RAM, I didnt say anything about x58+CPU+RAM = 790FX+CPU+Ram, that would be rediculous.
Also I took the MOST expensive AMD and intel mobos, to be apples to apples. If you are going to pick cheaper motherboards and not the most expensive option of both then its not a valid comparison(esp since all the X58 are higher end mobos). Im be quite suprised Jetway being the most expensive option, not so suprised with DFI(however DFI is cheaper than Asus and Abit here.)
If I choose cheaper models, thats only 448 for a x58 board.
We only have 1 790FX available with a sb750 update. Thats the one I mentioned for 393, and theres no way youll get a 9950 and Ram here for $60.
If I get the cheapest FX available, the Gigabyte DS4 thats 214, and the cheapest 9950 is still 380, so thats still over the cost of a X58 without RAM.
Yes our hardware prices suck, but I bet we arent the only with this situation.

Shangai has only just started shipping. They wont even be selling for the full Q408. They already lose in 1P and 2P and thats coming out NEXT quarter for Nehalem, so they have a 2-3month window there. Thats stuff all. You don't think that people who spend fortunes on servers wouldn't wait another couple of months if they knew a much better option was coming very soon?
Then your own link, says what I just said before. 4P Nehalem in H209.
This IS intel we are talking about. I said if Shanghai is good, you watch, intel will pull out all the stops to get 4P in early. So that could only be 7months.
Never ever underestimate your enemy. intel has become alot more aggresive since AMD whopped their ass with the original Athlon.
I love my AMD, but it really is David vs Goliath in terms of resources.