Shanghai can now be purchased!

[demonkevy666]

so because of all these reasons you could say that Opterons are kinda krippled just to be server stable.

well between the memory increase going from 667/800 to 1066 for Deneb, the clock for clock increase, the increase in total clocks (2.7 vs 3.0ghz) + overclocking we should see very nice increases overall

there where benchmarks done with Barcelona and 8800 GTX on a sever with 677mhz ECC.

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=3092

it us to have a 3dmark numbers too. :/

I think it scored around 9,00 points and a phenom scored around 9,800 10,250.

[knopflerbruce]

The TDP is only 75w I wonder what stock vcore is for these CPUs

Wonder what kind of speeds they would get out of a 140w Deneb

[qurious63ss]

The TDP is only 75w I wonder what stock vcore is for these CPUs

Wonder what kind of speeds they would get out of a 140w Deneb

I believe that the 75W number is actually for ACP so true TDP is something like 110W or something like that.

[Oliverda]

I believe that the 75W number is actually for ACP so true TDP is something like 110W or something like that.

105W ACP = 125W TDP
75W ACP = 95W TDP
55W ACP = 68W TDP

[qurious63ss]

105W ACP = 125W TDP
75W ACP = 95W TDP
55W ACP = 68W TDP

I found this from AMD and they have it broken down like this.

ACP TDP(max power)
105W = 137W
75W = 115W
55W = 79W

http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...61C_ACP_WP.pdf

[knopflerbruce]

I believe that the 75W number is actually for ACP so true TDP is something like 110W or something like that.

My bad, I just read the numbers

[Aussie FX]

I believe that the 75W number is actually for ACP so true TDP is something like 110W or something like that.

Unless something has changed recently AMD always rate their processors by TDP. ACP is just there to give a comparison with intel as that's how intel rate their processors.

I am almost certain that you have this backwards.

Barcelona are certainly rated by TDP so if Shanghai are rated with ACP then that makes them worse than Barcelona and that definitely isn't the case.
EDIT:
Actually the more I think about it the more certain I am that you have this wrong. My 9950 is a 140w TDP model yet it is around 100w in reality, so if that 140w was ACP then the TDP would be what, around 200w. Sorry but there isn't a motherboard PWM that can handle that.

KTE looked right into this not long ago and came out with some astonishing findings.

EDIT I'm now confused myself as to what is going on with TDP vs ACP so I have asked AMD to clear this up for me, so I will update as soon as I have my answer..(see post #62)

[gallag]

that's how intel rate their processors.

Is this actually true today or are you talking about the pentium 4 still?

[Aussie FX]

Is this actually true today or are you talking about the pentium 4 still?

As I understand it they are using average figures not absolute worse case scenario.

However I wouldn't bet my life on it and I'm happy to be proven wrong.

Also don't forget that intel rate their processors in "families" so it's now getting very confusing...On both sides.