First Shanghai benchmark results.

[Bellisimo]

I guess some people aren't easily satisfied. Although Bellisimo is probably not properly informed yet. (Just a guess though.)



Apparently it's that first category. Has there ever been a lower bin chip with good extreme overclocking? Core i7 920 does pretty good from an overclockers perspective.

3th time....
extreme overclocking on the non-extreme variants of the i7 is almost impossible

[justapost]

Wow did i ask about C2Q Extreme comparison or a normal 2.66Ghz part??Can you read my post at all?
You pick the worst case for C2Q,an EE that has had "issues" with very high power draw at 3+Ghz clocks.Even the QX9650 overclocked (clocks touched,not volts) manages to have a lot lower power draw than a QX9770...

A graph for you.It's from LS:


Watch QX9650 @3Ghz VS Core i7 920 .Core2Q wins in power draw test by a large margin while running at 11% higher clock.

You know that those i7 numbers are too low. He did not measure uncore requirements. See here. Like measuring Phenom without NB and L3.

[Helmore]

3th time....
extreme overclocking on the non-extreme variants of the i7 is almost impossible

That's why I'm asking you, how does the Q9450 or the Q6600 for example do in extreme overclocking? Pretty much the same if you ask me.

[gallag]

3th time....
extreme overclocking on the non-extreme variants of the i7 is almost impossible

Funny, We have a extreme overclocking section on this very board, Seems the i7 920 is quite the performer with clocks at 4.6, 4.3 etc.

What am I missing that makes me think you are talking nonsense?

[informal]

You know that those i7 numbers are too low. He did not measure uncore requirements. See here. Like measuring Phenom without NB and L3.

Thanks Justapost,i missed that .Nice link btw!

[Bellisimo]

Funny, We have a extreme overclocking section on this very board, Seems the i7 920 is quite the performer with clocks at 4.6, 4.3 etc.

What am I missing that makes me think you are talking nonsense?

strange, i can find E8600 @ 6.6ghz = 100% OC
still havent seen any 920 passing 5ghz


back on topic:
shanghai looks pretty decent in power consumption

edit// removed link

[gallag]

strange, i can find E8600 @ 6.6ghz = 100% OC
still havent seen any 920 passing 5ghz

Where is the speechless smiley?

[Rammsteiner]

NO, I think he means that 4Ghz ain't something special. It's like 3.4Ghz for AMD is. It's pretty common now.

I mean, you could set a note of 5 lines, give it to your grandma including an untweaked PC and she can get it 3.6Ghz without problems in 99.99% of the times without knowing wtf she just did

Anyhow, although it might be that simple, it's still a lot faster than what you can get on the market anyway.

Also i7 920 might be hitting 4.3 and 4.6Ghz, the majority just lands before 4Ghz or just at 4Ghz. It's not like because one or two CPU's got over it that this is a valid argument to say most 920's get that high.

Also it's food for thought whether anything around 4Ghz is a 'good' OC nowadays for Intel, as said, it's too common. Now a Phenom at 3.8Ghz 24/7 stable with watercooling, that's an achievement. Or i7 920 4.5Ghz, since not all Yorkfields got even that high, would be an achievement (if 24/7 stable on high-end air/watercooling, something durable).

Fact still remains, i7 920 @4Ghz, no matter how simple, is faster than anything on the market. But... Once again this ain't an Intel thread, so lets get back on topic. I guess with all the things I typed above everything what's relevant is being said now regarding i7 being a crap OC'er or not.

[Bellisimo]

haha, i can already view benchmark results on some website, shanghai is pretty good
some awesome improvements

a 2.7 shanghai beats a 2.66 harpertown in perf/watt easily

[Eson]

So why no link?

[Bellisimo]

So why no link?

its some kind of trick with their website, will post the numbers i have found out
already found: povray, cinebench, euler 3d, ...
gimme some more minutes

[Clairvoyant129]

strange, i can find E8600 @ 6.6ghz = 100% OC
still havent seen any 920 passing 5ghz


back on topic:
shanghai looks pretty decent in power consumption

edit// removed link

...

I'm guessing everyone here has access to LN2 or dice. I mean, 4GHz+ with Core i7 920 on air is crap. We need 6GHz+ on AIR!!!

And Phenom has trouble getting to 3.6GHz.

And guess what? Core i7 hasn't even been launched, why don't you wait a bit before wanting 6GHz+ benches.

its some kind of trick with their website, will post the numbers i have found out
already found: povray, cinebench, euler 3d, ...
gimme some more minutes

A trick huh?

Really gives this "site" credibility.

[Bellisimo]

OK, here are the results, thank you anonymous website

Bench: Caselab Euler 3D
AMD Opteron 2384: 63.1s
Intel Xeon L540: 66.9s
AMD Opteron 2356: 84s

Bench: Cinebenc 10
AMD Opteron 2384: 19357
Intel Xeon L540: 19997
AMD Opteron 2356: 15372

Bench: FlamMap FSPRO
AMD Opteron 2384: 427
Intel Xeon L540: 376s
AMD Opteron 2356: 512

Bench: HL2 Build Map Bench
AMD Opteron 2384: 91s
Intel Xeon L540: 87s
AMD Opteron 2356: 109s

Bench: PovRay 3.7b21 Chess2 1280*1024
AMD Opteron 2384: 58.4s
Intel Xeon L540: 59.1s
AMD Opteron 2356: 69.4s


Bench: SunGard AA
AMD Opteron 2384: 249.6s
Intel Xeon L540: 230.2s
AMD Opteron 2356: 300.2s

Power Consumption Idle
AMD Opteron 2384: 100W
Intel Xeon L540: 169W
AMD Opteron 2356: 109W

Power Consumption Load
AMD Opteron 2384: 197W
Intel Xeon L540: 227W
AMD Opteron 2356: 226W

[Bellisimo]

...

I'm guessing everyone here has access to LN2 or dice. I mean, 4GHz+ with Core i7 920 on air is crap. We need 6GHz+ on AIR!!!

And Phenom has trouble getting to 3.6GHz.

And guess what? Core i7 hasn't even been launched, why don't you wait a bit before wanting 6GHz+ benches.



A trick huh?

Really gives this "site" credibility.

you dont have to believe me, took me about an half an hour to find it, you can also wait for 2 days, i dont care, and no i didnt hack or something...

i didnt say 4hz on air is crap, but the extreme overclocking (if you know what is.... dont think so judging from your statement, maybe look up what dryice and ln2 are) is very limitied because of the QPI, maybe some mobos will go to 250, but i doubt it at this moment

[Trunks]

OK, here are the results, thank you anonymous website

Bench: Caselab Euler 3D
AMD Opteron 2384: 63.1s
Intel Xeon L540: 66.9s
AMD Opteron 2356: 84s

Bench: Cinebenc 10
AMD Opteron 2384: 19357
Intel Xeon L540: 19997
AMD Opteron 2356: 15372

Bench: FlamMap FSPRO
AMD Opteron 2384: 427
Intel Xeon L540: 376s
AMD Opteron 2356: 512

Bench: HL2 Build Map Bench
AMD Opteron 2384: 91s
Intel Xeon L540: 87s
AMD Opteron 2356: 109s

Bench: PovRay 3.7b21 Chess2 1280*1024
AMD Opteron 2384: 58.4s
Intel Xeon L540: 59.1s
AMD Opteron 2356: 69.4s


Bench: SunGard AA
AMD Opteron 2384: 249.6s
Intel Xeon L540: 230.2s
AMD Opteron 2356: 300.2s

Power Consumption Idle
AMD Opteron 2384: 100W
Intel Xeon L540: 169W
AMD Opteron 2356: 109W

Power Consumption Load
AMD Opteron 2384: 197W
Intel Xeon L540: 227W
AMD Opteron 2356: 226W

your the devil

[justapost]

Thanks Justapost,i missed that .Nice link btw!

Well not my finds I'll pass your thank to KTE whom found that systematic error here.

[Bellisimo]

if anyone is interested in the HWI SQL results? or sissoft 2009 MEM/L1/L2 results, i will post them
i can also compare with a x5470 if you guys like? thats a 3.3ghz xeon

[justapost]

Yes please.

Perf/Watt looks good ~10% advantage here over all compared to xeon and 35% compared to 65nm k10.

[justthefax]

if anyone is interested in the HWI SQL results? or sissoft 2009 MEM/L1/L2 results, i will post them
i can also compare with a x5470 if you guys like? thats a 3.3ghz xeon

Is the moon made of cheese? Is Shintai on Intel's payroll? POST IT BABY!