AMD to Give RV770 a Refresh, G200b Counterattack Planned

[deathman20]

Would love it but don't see how either unless they really improved the process for less power consumption.

[LordEC911]

Would love it but don't see how either unless they really improved the process for less power consumption.

Power consumption, from what I have seen, put the 4870 around the ~140w mark. Still gives them ~20w to work with, plus whatever they might gain from the revision.

I've known about a refresh since the 4870 released......Old news? See my sig... I wouldn't expect "much" however in the department of clock speeds. Think lower power consumption

For those that don't know "little dragon" is supposed to be the codename for the RV770 refresh not the next gen card as rumours would have you think. I would guesstimate late Q1

I'm definitely not rejecting the idea that I do or do not know something or anything or have a source.

Hmmm... I would hope this revision of RV770 would be out before the end of the year, at the very worst early Q1 or else there isn't much point. Late Q1 was the original target date for RV870 which seems to have been pushed back a month or two due to 40nm delays.

I found this comment intriguing, as it goes against the erroneous propaganda some ATI fans keep spreading around about how the RV770 architecture scales in performance with clockspeed increases compared to the G200 series.

You misunderstood them, they isn't what they were saying at all.
What they were saying is that G200 overclocked still performs better than RV770 overclocked, like it should. They are not saying that G200 scales better with clocks than RV770. G200 has what, a ~15-25% performance advantage on average against RV770, so it will still have a performance advantage when both are overclocked.

[Carfax]

You misunderstood them, they isn't what they were saying at all.
What they were saying is that G200 overclocked still performs better than RV770 overclocked, like it should. They are not saying that G200 scales better with clocks than RV770. G200 has what, a ~15-25% performance advantage on average, so it will still have a performance advantage when both are overclocked.

I'm not claiming the article is stating that the G200 scales better than the RV770.

All I was saying, is that it contradicts a widely held view by ATI fans that the RV770 scales better than the G200 in terms of performance gleaned from clockspeed increases, allowing it to compete with an overclocked G200 even with an inferior overclock, which simply isn't true when you look at the data.

Both the G200 and the RV770 scale similarly in performance when you increase the clockspeed, but because the G200 has more headroom, you can get more out of it.

[AMDDeathstar]

No, nvidia was rename and resell this sounds like they'd actually do some tweaks and adjustments to it and not sell it as a "new" generation but a revision within the current generation. Maybe like a 4890 or something.

*cough* Wrong *cough*

9800GTX -> 9800GTX+

My EVGA 9800GT Superclocked Edtion is just a rebrand 8800
Anywhere there was HDMI on the box was covered with a sticker

[Warboy]

My EVGA 9800GT Superclocked Edtion is just a rebrand 8800
Anywhere there was HDMI on the box was covered with a sticker

That wasn't the discussion........

[AMDDeathstar]

That wasn't the discussion........

So it's not about doing minor tweaks and releasing as new product
My bad, sorry