Deneb just around the corner?

[RiverRicer]

Looks like the Denebs are getting ready to roll to retail.....

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081104PD203.html

Xmas presents for everybody!

[GAR]

Pricing info???

[roofsniper]

Looks like the Denebs are getting ready to roll to retail.....

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081104PD203.html

Xmas presents for everybody!

yea i saw that im guessing its around the time of shanghai. i knew that the chips were already ready. they might of been delaying them to late q4 early q1 to see if they can squeeze out a C3 revision but i think nehalem has pushed up their priorities of just getting the chip out.

[Nedjo]

isn't this recycling of the previous rumors regarding the name and the launch time-frame?

[Macadamia]

Nedjo, everything's "recycled" (or confirmed, depending on perspective) BUT they added Deneb timelines.

We all thought Deneb was a late December affair.

[Nedjo]

Nedjo, everything's "recycled" (or confirmed, depending on perspective) BUT they added Deneb timelines.

We all thought Deneb was a late December affair.

well all I see in that article is bunch of wrong information so I'm inclined to suspect reliability of this "news"...

[keithlm]

well all I see in that article is bunch of wrong information so I'm inclined to suspect reliability of this "news"...

I just read the entire article. I couldn't find any of the "wrong information" you speak about so I'm inclined to suspect that you might have an ulterior motive for claiming that something "wrong" was presented.

Please expound and point out anything your might have suspected was "wrong information".

[Throwed]

well all I see in that article is bunch of wrong information so I'm inclined to suspect reliability of this "news"...

This is a Digitimes article.....not the Inquirer. Digitimes don't post non-sense.

[soundood]

Ohhhhh Nedjo,

really im not having a go, after all that we lovers have been through,

but sometimes you just dont make sense, that last comment is a cracker, i just read the article, and see nothing of what your talking about, like the previous two posters.

also reliability is something we learn, through past experiance, and proper evalutation. have you done any university education? because its the first thing they teach you, along with plagerism.

you need to learn to evaluate your web sources properly.

for me this is the first time i have seen the 'November this year' part, i thought it was all at end december, and first Q of 2009

i take this source as sound, and also i think the article 'rings true', there is just too much info in those short paragraphs, to think this is something like 'Hardware Zone Network' or something like that

this ones for your consideration Nedjo, maybe you could take up this sport? its called 'Shoot yourself'

[m411b]

Sounds like pretty legit info to me! Thanx for posting

[duploxxx]

Ohhhhh Nedjo,

really im not having a go, after all that we lovers have been through,

but sometimes you just dont make sense, that last comment is a cracker, i just read the article, and see nothing of what your talking about, like the previous two posters.

also reliability is something we learn, through past experiance, and proper evalutation. have you done any university education? because its the first thing they teach you, along with plagerism.

you need to learn to evaluate your web sources properly.

for me this is the first time i have seen the 'November this year' part, i thought it was all at end december, and first Q of 2009

i take this source as sound, and also i think the article 'rings true', there is just too much info in those short paragraphs, to think this is something like 'Hardware Zone Network' or something like that

this ones for your consideration Nedjo, maybe you could take up this sport? its called 'Shoot yourself'

that's because some of us have nda info. All i can say is they are able to do it since shanghai will launch very soon, but roadmaps always stated launching a bit later then november so i must have changed in the oktober roadmap... perhaps yields is better then expected and want to get profitable in q4.

[Titan7171]

If true this is some sweet news!

[YukonTrooper]

I'm hoping that these suckers are better than the i7's for gaming. I think they have too much ground to make up in general Windows applications, but I'm really optimistic about the gaming aspect.

[Jazzman]

Unless I missed it, I have yet to read anything about unlocked multipliers in these AM2+ Denebs. Do we have any idea when the FX models will be out? OR what the pricing differential will be from the locked standard models?

[Titan7171]

Unless I missed it, I have yet to read anything about unlocked multipliers in these AM2+ Denebs. Do we have any idea when the FX models will be out? OR what the pricing differential will be from the locked standard models?

Hmm this is key here I will only buy a BE cpu with unlocked multis

[Rammsteiner]

Hmm this is key here I will only buy a BE cpu with unlocked multis

No one really knows for sure, AFAIK, whether BE line will be continued or not. If it will be, what extra's will FX line bring?

I think it's more likely BE line was a placeholder for the FX line since you cant simply ask 1K back in the skt 939 days, now 160 Euro because of Intel's performance and then 1K again with Deneb. It ruins pretty much all your marketing.

Also I had a little theory that the FX line might be the first one to bring high/k and metal gates to AMD's CPU's, but I really cant be sure and nothing points at that direction thus far.

[Chris_redfield]

I don't think AMD is in any position to start demanding the same price for their FX line up as Intel are for their Extreme Edition. That would mean the high end Denebs would be going head to head against Nehalem and we already know that Intel's latest offerings are very overclockable and are we sure that AMD could meet the same performance?

One of the reason why I am a fan of AMD at the moment is because of their low pricing, and a BE with unlocked multi is not only fun to play with in terms of OC'ing but the performance for the price is pretty good. Starting to charger 1k per FX CPU would probably be a very stupid thing to do. Unless AMD really do have an incredible innovation for us.

It's a nice theory about the high/k and metal gates though.

[soundood]

the FX days are over, you just cannot ask that sort of price now, the whole game has shifted.

not to say that the FX branding is dead, i supect and agree with the above poster in saying that the high binned high/k and metal gate efforts, will be given the first 'prestige' FX tag.

[EniGmA1987]

FX line also had more cache like the Opterons did, and were generally higher grade silicon. So it isnt just an unlocked multi. Whether they make an FX line or keep the BE line I dont really care, as long as they dont start charging massive amounts of money just to get something like an unlocked multi. I honestly wouldnt even care if they made a BE and an FX line that had more cache

[Rammsteiner]

FX line also had more cache like the Opterons did, and were generally higher grade silicon. So it isnt just an unlocked multi. Whether they make an FX line or keep the BE line I dont really care, as long as they dont start charging massive amounts of money just to get something like an unlocked multi. I honestly wouldnt even care if they made a BE and an FX line that had more cache

What

Opterons, at least the skt 939's, were exactly the same as FX apart from unlocked multipliers. Actually, FX's were unlocked Opterons.

[FlanK3r]

Deneb FX is real product...only u must wait about 1/2 year .-)

[roofsniper]

phenom fx is gonna come out. i think amd skipped it this time because barcelona/agena didn't work out too well. june 2009 is my guess for the first deneb fx. lets just hope that this time the fx cpus don't cost $1000+.

[charged3800z24]

It has been mention about the FX returning 2H 2009...I know AMD has a real strong feeling about Shanghi, with the improvements that were made...I bet they are feeling just as good with deneb as well for the desktop users. As soon as this NDA or what ever is lifted.. I hope to see some nice results...I have been trying not to get excited..as I could be let down..I really don't think AMD would bring another product to launch if they didn't feel it could do well.

[charged3800z24]

phenom fx is gonna come out. i think amd skipped it this time because barcelona/agena didn't work out too well. june 2009 is my guess for the first deneb fx. lets just hope that this time the fx cpus don't cost $1000+.

Ya, they didn't want to label a CPU "FX" if it wasn't performance crown material. The BE is just away to unlock potential easier and with that sell more CPU's that otherwise might get passed by the enthusiast due to the competition. And I know it sold me..I have bought only the BE chips on all my past purchases..

[informal]

FX line could consist of 6 core chips in H2 09,easy as that .