To everyone in the WC section, Please read!

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Idk what to say. I had a few arguments with RRR, but he didn't seem such a bad guy indeed, just a litle to outspoken on his beliefs in a way other people wouldn't always appriciate ( read = me for one ).

I thought he came around though

Idk about IanY, he did post something about not caring if people liked him or not, imho abit out of place because the only thing I asked was if he believed in community spirit so there must have been more happening in the background that I was not aware of.

Wouldn't mind having more insight in RRR's ban though, I think it has something to do with Martin's thread.

[.Logic]

To be honest, RRRs ban was a long time coming and in my opinion his ban wasn't because of one specific incident, but numerous events that have added up.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

All I said was that I saw an improvement in his attitude towards others.. idk what happend today.

[.Logic]

All I said was that I saw an improvement in his attitude towards others.. idk what happend today.

I know what you mean, this past week he certainly wasn't as 'bad' as he has been in the past.

[b@llz0r]

I reckon everyone should give RRR a break... Its not surprising that he is so defensive considering the many personal attacks he faces on a daily basis here... RE fanboyism, its basic human psycology to believe that you have made correct decisions in regards to purchases, you just need to look at the gear people own to understand why they support the brands/products they do. RRR isnt the first person to sing the praises of a certain manufacturer or product, albeit that he does it very well... but having a sales background you would expect that.

I dont know what went down with the admins to earn him a ban, so im gladly leaving that between RRR and them.

Im hoping that its just a bit of a slap on the wrist and all will be back to normal soon.

That worklog of his must be completed for the good of humanity.... 1000+ posts and he has only recently got all the gear together

[septim]

i don't know what majority of you think, but banning a person without telling him the offending post is somewhat lame...

for the past few weeks he has been courteous, curb down his prideful remarks, has almost no FTW, and been quite helpful to some noobies, despite repeated baiting by some other newbs...

[twwen2]

i don't know what majority of you think, but banning a person without telling him the offending post is somewhat lame...

for the past few weeks he has been courteous, curb down his prideful remarks, has almost no FTW, and been quite helpful to some noobies, despite repeated baiting by some other newbs...

Edit: It seems that he has been banned without notification...

I have to agree that he has been much better recently, and it's sad to lose him. At this point we don't know what happened, so the less speculation the better.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

for the past few weeks he has been courteous, curb down his prideful remarks, has almost no FTW, and been quite helpful to some noobies, despite repeated baiting by some other newbs...

Yup I agree.. but do you know something I don't?

[IanY]

They have chosen to lock my Personal Message box in retaliation.

Is that appropriate?

[twwen2]

They have chosen to lock my Personal Message box in retaliation.

Is that appropriate?

This is getting messy. Time for a mod in the know to set the record straight perhaps?

IanY, perhaps it's time to pick up the phone...

[IanY]

This is getting messy. Time for a mod in the know to set the record straight perhaps?

IanY, perhaps it's time to pick up the phone...

The nice part is that they would have to come to my home and cut my phone lines, and even then the office phone works. I still have my cell phone and my e-mail account. Thank God.

Err... didn't he just say that they have no beef with me? Then why cut off my PM access?

And then they'll ban me for complaining that I don't have PM access ?

[Marvin_The_Martian]

He ment I guess, pick up the phone and give someone a call

Keep your cool

[twwen2]

The nice part is that they would have to come to my home and cut my phone lines, and even then the office phone works. I still have my cell phone and my e-mail account. Thank God.

Err... didn't he just say that they have no beef with me? Then why cut off my PM access?

And then they'll ban me for complaining that I don't have PM access ?

What i was suggesting is that perhaps you should get on the phone to one of the mods. Good luck.

[septim]

Andy, its just adding some Color or Spice to this thread. instead of just numbers and graphs and more numbers and graphs...

some humor and drama is all normal for me, daily selling in my store, i see those vendors with their daily lives and spats, nothing new there or here...
i don't let prideful or boastful post offend me, i like to play it fair and balance out my replies.

now 5vs1 everyday ganging up on R3 by some is somewhat unfair...

lighten up some...

[Movieman]

Gentlemen;
In light of all the recent events and the accompaning PM's I will be shortly changing my nic from Movieman to Dear Abby.

[sniperbob]

Gentlemen;
In light of all the recent events and the accompaning PM's I will be shortly changing my nic from Movieman to Dear Abby.

what about Dr. Phil???

[Marvin_The_Martian]

What in the .... name would came after Dr. Phill?

[TedShred]

Yikes, saw that R3 had been banned when I got home from dinner last night. I have the utmost respect for the mods & admins, and the difficult job they have to keep XS the best tech forum on the webby, and I accept their decisions fully. I'm just very much hoping that there's some contemplation of getting him back into circulation in the very near future and, on that note, I just wanted to say that Joel is one of the guys who's been very helpful to nooby me trying to wade through all this mysterious H20 stuff. In return, unfortunately I can't do much but offer this my own shout out of support for the man. I very much hope to see him back in LC soon.

Peace

edit: and, yes, someday - soon I will start putting what I've learned to work

[septim]

Gentlemen;
In light of all the recent events and the accompaning PM's I will be shortly changing my nic from Movieman to Dear Abby.

"Call me Dave"

hopefully/probably some of those supportive of R3...
and IanY's false telephone and address...
i'll offer you a jug of coffee to drink too... (i don't envy you reading till the morning...)

I hear what your saying, but when it turns hateful, vindictive and someone alludes to causing others harm because of some petty differences, then I say enough is enough and let the hammer fall.

andyc

agreed.

also if we have food critics, just think of IanY as XS critic as not everything pleases everybody... can't really win em all...

[Utnorris]

I hear what your saying, but when it turns hateful, vindictive and someone alludes to causing others harm because of some petty differences, then I say enough is enough and let the hammer fall.

andyc

I am not sure if you are saying R3 is vindictive and hateful or not, if so, when was he vindictive or hateful? He never made a personal attack unless someone attacked him first, simple. Certain individuals here baited him on a daily basis for whatever reasons, not sure if they wanted to get him banned or just wanted to get him worked up. As far as the "alluding to causing others harm", I am assuming you are talking about the whole BP vs. Feser deal and if so, there is an entire thread about that also. Regardless, I would think it would only be fair for the mods to explain to him, not us, why he was banned without warning. I just think that is common courtesy. They don't have to explain it to us, since this not a democracy, but I would think they should to R3. What I find ironic is that they only banned him from PM's and the liquid cooling section. If they really thought he was an issue then why not ban him from the entire forum. Call it conspiracy paranoia, but I think there is more to it than meets the eye. Anyway, I think there is a little too much drama on this site as it is. There are plenty of noobs and old members that answer legitimate questions with smart a** answers rather than with helpful answers. We all hate when someone posts "Is Thermaltake any good" and therefore the community blasts the poor smuck for asking the question rather than explaining why Thermaltake water cooling is a bad idea. I have gotten personally blasted for using Koolance fittings because of the "Koolance only uses aluminum and aluminum is bad" debate, none of which is relevant to their fittings. There are many reasons people build water cooling rigs and almost always money is a factor. I do agree this is an "Xtreme" site, but we have to remember there is a lot of mis-information floating around the web, I posted one yesterday as a good laugh, but to a noob to water cooling a legitimate site doing that review is more valid than someone's opinion on a forum. We need to remember we all started out new and not too many of us are "Rocket scientists" or "NASA" engineers.

[Xilikon]

Oh, R3 is banned ? That's what happen me each time I'm away

I agree with others than banning without telling why is pushing a bit far. I assume he stepped on the wrong toes at one time and pissed off someone but I didn't really see something like that so I hope this get resolved pretty fast since I agree that he calmed down lately and is behaving as a good XS member despite lots of flame-baiting attempts by others against him.

[shellac]

FWIW, RRR did sent me a PM making sure I saw the funny Utnorris thread about TT. He didn't need to send the PM, I guess just wanted to make a gesture saying that 'all is cool'. I could be wrong, only a guess.

I bet this is all just a ploy to give RRR time to work on his rig without the need to feed his XS thread with updates.

I know what you mean, this past week he certainly wasn't as 'bad' as he has been in the past.

[2low4u]

Dude it's not really your place to comment on such things. From what I've been told, few people know or understand why RealRedRaider was banned and until we know [assuming we will ever know], just let it slide. There are no vendettas by mods on XS so I assume there is a solid reason why he was banned OR it was a mistake OR an over reaction. I don't understand why everyone is going ballistic until you know what happened. You can't think a XS staff decided to ban him because he say informed us of new BP/MM products right? Either way, I fail to see how this severely impacts on your XS experience and if you think the mods are over zealous, then there are plenty of other forums out there . I don't really care to assess the actions of a XS staff member so don't ask me what I think.

Think about what you just said for 2 seconds!

1. It is my place to speak my mind if I so choose.

2. Exactly nobody knows why & neither does R3 unless he lied to me when I asked him last night. I was at work all day & will read the rest of this but honestly you or anyone else on here won't be telling me what to say or not say when something from my eyes doesn't seem right. I'd like to know who you even think you are in telling me it isn't my place? lol I don't think it was right with knowing what I did so I spoke out about it. Pretty simple if you ask me.

IanY no loss he barely had anything good to say about anything but R3 yeah he gave to this place & I for one learned quite abit from him & might just have made a new friend out of the deal. He didn't do anything that I was aware of at all to get himself banned so of course I spoke out for the guy!

[Utnorris]

What I said and you quoted has nothing to do with R3. Has nothing to do with what you referenced, so I don't have a clue as to your point is.

Try reading the string of posts and quotes more carefully.

andyc

Well, I apologize if it did not, but since the subject was R3 and his banning, when you responded to Septim with what I quoted it came off as you were saying that R3 was hateful and vindictive. If that is not what you intended, my bad, but that is how I took it.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

I guess I baited RRR here and there... but we came to terms with things lately through a discussion on his thread and I thought we were on friendly terms.

My take on RRR as a whole is this:

He received all too much praise for what he did here. For some reason people thought of him so highly but in all honesty he never did anything to deserve this status. His worklog was measly and he barely got anything done none of it was all that amazing (compare to coolmeister, virtualrain, Evil-98, tremolos, malik, and many others), at least 50% of the posts in that thread were spamming useless fodder. I give him credit for being a fast learner and spending a lot of money on parts but IMO this community has lost nothing with him gone.


Obviously he did something very out of line to be banned, none of what I said above has anything to do with that I would imagine.