Looking for a mirror for Martin's reviews

[shazza]

Gosh, I've been away for a few months, but trying to catch up this past week. Fortunately, I caught a few of Martin's recent reviews in the last couple of days. Thanks so much for all the great work, and enjoy some well-deserved time with your kids and new interests.

[LinusTech]

I'm sure there are many who will celebrate your disappearance.

Namely the companies that want to release sup-par products and not have anyone call them on it.

Your testing will be missed, and I will always treasure my hand made Martin elbows and tees.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

well martin I was looking to give you maybe a parting gift but no donation button anymore :\

I'll miss your testing. After this summer I will invest in some testing equipment just checked out ebay for some of the those meters, but as of now all extra capitol is going into my new build.

[Kibbler]

I'm sure there are many who will celebrate your disappearance.

Namely the companies that want to release sup-par products and not have anyone call them on it.

Your testing will be missed, and I will always treasure my hand made Martin elbows and tees.

And I'm sure a few who lament it as well, namely those who lose a voice trusted by the community to give good marks to a genuinely good product.

[WaterFlex]

Thanks for your work, Martin!

[Navanod]

You'll be remembered for the great work done Mart
Lets hope many will rise up to fill your shoes

[inCore]

Thanks, shame that everything is gone but it's understandable. Good luck to Skinnee, you've got a hell of a job in front of you.

Be sure to check back every once in a while Martin, you're one of the nicest people around here, would be a real shame to lose you completely.

[link1896]

the only problem with this "Testing Stimulus" package is your work was reliable and consistent. As a whole, this community isn't either of these things.

I'm not questioning your motivation for a second, I've a similar hobby cycle, but I fear by removing all your work from the public domain, another slice of professionalism is gone. We've gone from people making their own blocks, etc, to people testing other peoples blocks, to people just accepting blocks, etc, for what they are.

I watched procooling demise, lets hope this place doesn't follow

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Martin, I'm sad to see the site go, even while I did only read it just to keep up. It will be a great loss to the community and I would have hoped you had kept your reviews so another community member could mirror your work to preserve it for the ages. Your reviews might not get updated, but compare the info at your former site to the info most forums have in their wc section, your work is atleast as up to date as them ( ... ehm most actually link to or discuss your findings ).

I'm not the one I think capable of persuading you to give skinnee or anyone else a proper backup of your reviews, so I'll keep feeling sad for the loss of such a wealth of information

[HESmelaugh]

it's a real loss. Such a wealth of information...

It's not too long ago that I first came across martinsliquidlab and I'm really glad I did before it went down. But whether backups of the data will ever show up somewhere else or not, I think Martin's testing will have long lasting effects for the community. I completely changed the way I do my testing after I saw how Martin did it. My test results went from vague and sometimes inaccurate to real, reproducable and (I hope) relevant.

I'm sure I'm not the only one to be inspired by Martin's testing like that. In short, Martin kicked the standards for testing up a notch (or several notches) and that is a great contribution.

[T_Flight]

I'm also sad to see that info gone. That info helped me get into watercooling, and if it hadn't been for it, I probably wouldn't have. I had saved links to many of his reviews because my new system and waterloop was literally designed around those tests. I had a word doc with URL's saved so I could refer back to it. It's a great loss to the community and to me personally as well.

I also feel for Martin, and know precisely where he is coming from. When a hobby turns into work it's not a hobby anymore, and familiy has to come first. I've been involved with hobbies myself where I was supported by companies, and it's very difficult sometimes. I know about the testing, because I've done it. Not with watercooling, but with batteries. I did love it, but I had to put in my 2 weeks notice so to speak. I explained to them why I had to take a break for awhile, and those companies are still with me today. I do help them out every once in awhile too. It's limited though.

I find it admirable that Martin loves his children, and wants to spend more time with. I also find it admirable that he wants to stay healthy and workout. Kids when they are growing up are priceless.

Martin, if you read this, I just want you to know that your info was valued, and appreciated. It will be missed. I hope you stick around the forums to give people like me and others guidelines. I do hope that you spend time with your family though, and do what you want to to enjoy life. You have brought people into this hobby, and I'm proof. I don't forget things like that either. People who do that kind of dedicated work help others, and it's a nobel thing to do.

Do what you enjoy, but I hope you don't ever become a stranger here. Just come here to hang out and enjoy your computers. You deserve it.

It's kinda mixed emotions. I'm sad to see valued info go, but am happy that you are doing what you enjoy.

[fox3]

Thanx Martin

Your testing made for some interesting reading, I am lucky to have had the opportunity to learn from your efforts.

[b@llz0r]

thanks martin... good impartial testing for watercooling, with a focus on results, is hard to find...

hope your just giving up the stress of the website and will still be into watercooling... I love to see your "too much rad is nowhere near enough" builds

[memolipd]

you've done a great job to the community, i remember first finding ur website i was like WOW! Bookmarked!

PS if only your hosting people knew how much sending out that email would affect soooooo many people

[dopestuff]

thanks for all your work from the past, and good luck whit your new hobby's and stuff

[IanY]

Still taking donations, Martin?

[AndrewZorn]

Sad to see you go Martin, just make sure you give all those pages to Skinnee to host on his website in a 'mirror' section!

[[XC] riptide]

Damn Martin. Sorry to see the site gone.

[Navanod]

I know I've read in the past you enjoyed sharing info you've gained with others, now this statement sure does sound pretty darn selfish to me...

Why not allow one of us XS members, who can easily afford the web hosting fees, to maintain your site for you????

But that would mean you are not keeping all the info you've gained to yourself then... I thought all this time the FREE testing was for others to enjoy, apparently I was very wrong...

its Mart's hard work and his data and copyrights
I think he has every right to do with them as he deemed fit, lets give him a pat on the back and some encouraging words rather than trying to extract things out of him

I'm already very glad we at least still have the flow estimator

[Duh]

Respect!

Nothing but respect.

Where to now Martin? Have you got any idea what will take your fancy next?
Who's got some suggestions for Martin's new hobby?

- Fishing
- Sailing
- Painting maybe...?

Very nice words! I really desire the best for you! We all love you and your devotion for your hobbies!

Relax and do whatever you like most, you are the only judge of your acts ( as long as you dont do illegal/inmoral stuff :P).

Take care of yourself and if you need anything take for granted we will try our best to help you as you did with us

Regards

Juan

[IanY]

In the first place, the right thing that should have occurred from the get-go is that none of the testing and none of the data should have been free.

Caveat emptor is the name of the game and its the buyers that outght to place a premium on useful information, and see fit how to spread the info after the info has been paid.

In that way, Martin would have been amply compensated for his reviews and the opportunity cost from his time expended in terms of his wife's home improvement projects, and far more important, his time with his growing children, would at least have been alleviated. However, none of that is my business.

The mantra in XS is that testing is done for the communal good and all that jazz. Its a real honourable goal, but we live, at least I live, in the real world here. All that social good hoopla creates nothing but a culture of parasitic freeloaders. How apt given the political season in the US.

Coming back to my point, Martin should have kept his site fee based form the get go. Now, he has decided that its his intellectual property, and that is his perrogative and certainly honourable. However, I do sense IMO a sudden deviance in terms of underlying philosophy.

[AndrewZorn]

If Martin's site was fee-based, no one would appreciate his work. He'd just be another one of those "LOL well you could have found that out on the forums!" sites

[AndrewZorn]

If you are talking about his past work, then we will still have that.

If you are talking about him still doing it, he said he doesn't want to.

(faces pointing at paper, giving thumbs up)

[Marvin_The_Martian]

I'm sensing a lack off community feeling in two people here

[IanY]

I'm sensing a lack off community feeling in two people here

That's right. You're Dutch, and given your culture and environment, I dont blame your views. However, free lunches don't exist in the world of hard knocks.