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[Calmatory]

sure it does. what do you think a semi conductor is?


bah. nvm.

I don't know what it has to do with this. So please share the facts.

[exhausted mule]

I don't know what it has to do with this. So please share the facts.

alot.


my point is... heat is not the only form of energy present in a system at any given time.

[Calmatory]

alot.


my point is... heat is not the only form of energy present in a system at any given time.

So if the energy does not come out as heat, then where is it stored? I still stand behind the 400 W in, 400 W out claim, until someone can prove me wrong.

[exhausted mule]

So if the energy does not come out as heat, then where is it stored? I still stand behind the 400 W in, 400 W out claim, until someone can prove me wrong.

your 100% right.


but only the inneficiencies of the components turn those watts into heat.

[Calmatory]

your 100% right.


but only the inneficiencies of the components turn those watts into heat.

Yes, but thats how the hardware works. Can't change that even if we wanted to.

[Xope_Poquar]

alot.


my point is... heat is not the only form of energy present in a system at any given time.

As far as a computer heat sink is concerned, it is. The heat is generated from the friction of electrons moving through the silicon. The thermal energy is transferred through the IHS to the heat sink where it is absorbed by the air.

The heat sink does not do any energy conversions. There is no energy in the form of sound, light (radioactivity), mechanical, magnetic, nuclear, chemical, spring, electric, or dark (that I know of lol) that leaves the heat sink that was in the form of thermal energy when it left the IHS.

Technically heat is a form of kinetic energy as atomically the atoms are vibrating together (technically of which their fields are causing each other to vibrate).

I have to go to work so I'm going to stop there.

[exhausted mule]

As far as a computer heat sink is concerned, it is. The heat is generated from the friction of electrons moving through the silicon. The thermal energy is transferred through the IHS to the heat sink where it is absorbed by the air.

The heat sink does not do any energy conversions. There is no energy in the form of sound, light (radioactivity), mechanical, magnetic, nuclear, chemical, spring, electric, or dark (that I know of lol) that leaves the heat sink that was in the form of thermal energy when it left the IHS.

Technically heat is a form of kinetic energy as atomically the atoms are vibrating together (technically of which their fields are causing each other to vibrate).

I have to go to work so I'm going to stop there.

not entirely. alot of those watts are turned into mechanical. (although small, processors are a form of machine)

watts are just a measurment of potential work. watts is not heat.

[Calmatory]

not entirely. alot of those watts are turned into mechanical. (although small, processors are a form of machine)

watts are just a measurment of potential work. watts is not heat.

Here we go again...

What kind of machines? Their efficiency is zero. 0. Yes, they are able to convert set bits to another set of bits, but thats it. When they do that, they generate heat with all the power they draw.

[biohead]

Here we go again...

What kind of machines? Their efficiency is zero. 0. Yes, they are able to convert set bits to another set of bits, but thats it. When they do that, they generate heat with all the power they draw.

fail. indeed the eventual energy output will be in the form of heat because energy isn't stored in the system (the computer). but you should expand your thesaurus to be able to be more explanatory, because "sets of bits" doesn't quite cut it.

[Calmatory]

fail. indeed the eventual energy output will be in the form of heat because energy isn't stored in the system (the computer). but you should expand your thesaurus to be able to be more explanatory, because "sets of bits" doesn't quite cut it.

So I should start writing about how the signals from the FPU to L2 cache generate heat and as the FPU is busy, the TLB is idling and drawing no power etc? To put it short, CPU gets set of bits and translates it to another set of bits. Sure, it doesn't work exactly like that in practise but thats how to simplify it.

And who was saying that converting something to something else takes no energy? Excactly, no one. Bringing those arguments to the debate have no value other than trying to confuse others. If that is the last resort, then someone should lock the thread.

And still, the question remains: If it does not come out as heat, then what does it come out as? And no energy is being stored, right?