GTL Ref Tweaking Guide

[Ryan12]

I am going to try my E8400 on a gigabyte p35... I know its an older board, however id be keen to see the results! Ill let you guys know how i do

[negev]

Yeah, my QX9650 needed 1.67 NB to get 450FSB stable, but giving it 1.7 (NB watercooled) didn't help me get any higher.
The same chip on my P5Q3 Deluxe managed 490FSB stable with 1.70 NB. (NB on air)

So it seems that, for lots of people, this board sucks?

[Ryan12]

So it seems that, for lots of people, this board sucks?

Mmmm well for the $550 AUD that i paid i did expect lots more then what ive got so far... Did i expect to much lol

[ol'norton]

So it seems that, for lots of people, this board sucks?

Of the 5 boards I've had my QX9650 in, 450FSB stable is the lowest, but I wouldn't say this board sucks.
It just doesn't suffer fools. ie there are easier boards to overclock than this one.
But with the dual core this is pretty good for 5 passes of Linpack with these voltages.
Admittedly I had to slow the memory down to do it, & I only seem to have 2 mem multipliers that work.

[negev]

Ever get a slow dawning sense of realisation that you've been had?

[Ryan12]

It was out of this and the rampage.... After looking at the rampage reviews and results sadly i think i might of made the wrong decision

[Gendo]

So it seems that, for lots of people, this board sucks?

Maybe it's not the board that sucks but the overclocker? This board has been optimized to run yorkfield quadcores, if some one with this cpu can't get it to work properly it must be either him doing something wrong, the cpu that sucks or the wrong mem(chips) for this board. A combination of all above is possible too, from the results I have seen I can't imagine it's the board.

[negev]

Maybe it's not the board that sucks but the overclocker? This board has been optimized to run yorkfield quadcores, if some one with this cpu can't get it to work properly it must be either him doing something wrong, the cpu that sucks or the wrong mem(chips) for this board. A combination of all above is possible too, from the results I have seen I can't imagine it's the board.

Even though loads of people have reported that they can't get their cpus to clock as high as they do on other boards, no matter what settings they try?

[Gendo]

I don't know man. All I know is that the board was designed for quads. I don't have one to test it out myself but I can imagine it just takes more tweaking than on other boards. The blackops allowes a lot more settings to be set manually than other boards. A problem that comes with this may be that finding the optimal for one setting requires you to change a different setting. Changing this second setting might result in you having to change the first setting again. I guess you have to set everything perfectly balanced

[RAYTTK]

[QUOTE]I don't know man. All I know is that the board was designed for quads. I don't have one to test it out myself but I can imagine it just takes more tweaking than on other boards. The blackops allowes a lot more settings to be set manually than other boards. A problem that comes with this may be that finding the optimal for one setting requires you to change a different setting. Changing this second setting might result in you having to change the first setting again. I guess you have to set everything perfectly balanced
/QUOTE]

Yeah your Kinda right but If you look at alot of the posts on this subject there are a lot of people only getting medium results from a board that costs Mega Bucks, I have had the same results with a Q6600 on a £100 P35 and a 680i. I have tried a Q9450 and a QX6850 on this board but cant get past 3.8 & Ive been hard at this board for four months. Im not too bothered tho as I bought the board for the watercooling on the north bridge & that definately works Great 35c @ 3.750ghz plus its neat with just two watertubes. still room for air circulation inside the case. The Gigabyte P35 was upto 60c on the northbridge when overclocked to 3.6 & the 680i looked like a crash victim on life support with the innovatek black pearl blocks fitted.

[saxile]

I'll have to chime in and say that this board far from sucks. It does have a few bugs in it, but it is a hell of a lot better than the Asus Maximus I had flashed Rampage. Best I would pull with that board and my Q6600 was 3.8 at 70c on water (and that board over volted like mad) now with my blackops I'm hitting almost right at 4.1ghz, still have some tweaks to make it fully stable, but at 4.05 it is rock solid.

[RAYTTK]

Saxile, Could you post your settings for the 4.05 please

[saxile]

Saxile, Could you post your settings for the 4.05 please

Roger, will do when I get home, still at work on my mobile phone (which, by the way, is overclocked too!).

CPU Speed in Windows is 4055.18 MHZ

Edit: Here ya go
Multi x9
FSB 450
Cpu to Ram 1:4 CPU400
Cpu Volt Multi 1.075
Cpu volt 1.500
Cpu Target 1.6125 (1.59 real)
Pll 1.584304
VTT 1.650
NB 1.763 (water cooled)
SB 1.688
Ram 2.044
GTL are Default

[RAYTTK]

Woooow thems high volts , Are you using them 24/7 ? I have only tried upto 1.5v on my cpu I will give them ago on mine , watch this space

[negev]

*holds hands ready near the window to catch RAYTTK's cpu shortly after it explodes off the board and flies several miles through the air*

[saxile]

Woooow thems high volts , Are you using them 24/7 ? I have only tried upto 1.5v on my cpu I will give them ago on mine , watch this space

Yep 24/7, this little 65nm loves volts, plus they love VTT volts

[Sailindawg]

Saxile, nice clocks, once I get my NB water cooled, I'd like to try your settings. What batch is your Q6600 from? What RAM are you running?

[saxile]

Saxile, nice clocks, once I get my NB water cooled, I'd like to try your settings. What batch is your Q6600 from? What RAM are you running?

Not sure batch off top of my head, mobile again. Ram is Patriot Viper 1800 at 7-7-7-20 t1, prolly can get tighter but still working on max fsb first. I could drop the volts a bit but it's not 24 hour prime stable that way, get a hiccup about 15 hours into it.

[Sailindawg]

Nice RAM. I assume that your running 2x1G? The 2G kit is very nicely priced. At what volts are you running 7-7-7-20 t1 at?Edit: regarding Vdimm, I went back and read your post, I missed Vdimm.

[RAYTTK]

Ok I have tried your settings Saxile & yes I can boot up into windows at 4.1 with my QX6850 and temps are still quite respectable.
I cannot however get more than 32 mins Prime95 stable and getting BOSD with Intel burn test on the 1st run. Whats the Max volts you have tried? I dont feel good putting more than 1.6 through this chip.
I have gone back to my OC gear setting of 3.75 right now because i have some work to do & my settings are-
CPU- 1.43
VTT-1.200
PPL-1.508
NB-1.300
SB-1.500
DRAM-1.80
With these settings everything is between 30c-32c
I cant understand why it needs so much more volts just for that little bit more ghz

[saxile]

Ok I have tried your settings Saxile & yes I can boot up into windows at 4.1 with my QX6850 and temps are still quite respectable.
I cannot however get more than 32 mins Prime95 stable and getting BOSD with Intel burn test on the 1st run. Whats the Max volts you have tried? I dont feel good putting more than 1.6 through this chip.
I have gone back to my OC gear setting of 3.75 right now because i have some work to do & my settings are-
CPU- 1.43
VTT-1.200
PPL-1.508
NB-1.300
SB-1.500
DRAM-1.80
With these settings everything is between 30c-32c
I cant understand why it needs so much more volts just for that little bit more ghz

From my experience the 65nm loves VTT and NB Volts. Try upping those two volt a little more and back off of vcore and see what you get.

[saxile]

Nice RAM. I assume that your running 2x1G? The 2G kit is very nicely priced. At what volts are you running 7-7-7-20 t1 at?Edit: regarding Vdimm, I went back and read your post, I missed Vdimm.

Yep this set, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220300

Batch number is L738A980

[Sailindawg]

The link for the 2x1G kit is no longer there on Newegg from when I posted yesterday. The link I put up had the kit you posted, then 2x1G, and the 2x2G kit. The 2x1 was ~$150. Today,. newegg has the 2x1G kit as deactivated. Wow. That is a sweet kit you have. I was going to wait to upgrade RAM until the low volt, low latency kits started coming out for Nahalem. Those kits ought run real well on this board.

[Bandito]

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Saaya, where is the ground that these reference to? As in, I am about to solder some wires on, but I will need a ground to reference each of these four to - where is it please. And thanks for the guide

Edit: I suppose it might be referenced back to 5v gorund from the power supply or similar, but I would have thought it would be regulated further, and only acessible at a tuning point.

[Ryan12]

So it seems that, for lots of people, this board sucks?

negev, just asked my mate to send over his overclocked xfx 790i details with his Q9450
Multiplier - 8x
Vcore - 1.4 in bios, think REAL was 1.33 in BIOS
and all his other settings he left on auto
cpu fsb volts - 1.35v (auto in his bios)
memory - 2.2v
All the rest are autos (so i cant get values)
Seems to have either a good motherboard or a very good cpu if no one here can get 3.8 on the blackops board (from what ive read on the 9450 cpu).