Mcw60-4870

[Blazing fire]

^ He's not responding me either .

Man, where is this thing already?

First shop to have this in stock gets all my business as I've held off on ordering my pump, blocks, and fittings for it.

Same here.

[jc99]

So it's uh... you know... the end of the week. Time for swiftech 4870 cooling greatness is it not?

[ward0]

So it's uh... you know... the end of the week. Time for swiftech 4870 cooling greatness is it not?

Was asking the same question to my CNC guys yesterday. They are working on it. Not too long hopefully.



Best regards,





Gabe

[jc99]

Whoa is that the official swiftech gabe response?

[Blazing fire]

Here you go! Post #42, dated 10-17-2008 (Month-Day-year), friday, 06:32 AM. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...0&postcount=42

The blocks are scheduled for release to the channels and the public by end of next week.

Therefore, we should expect it to be on sale on 10-26-2008, Sunday 23:59 latest

[ward0]

Here you go! Post #42, dated 10-17-2008 (Month-Day-year), friday, 06:32 AM. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...0&postcount=42



Therefore, we should expect it to be on sale on 10-26-2008, Sunday 23:59 latest

i doubt it will be that soon,

and yes this answer from gabe comes right from his email adres

[jc99]

They need to hurry up before the 4870's become obsolete. Preferably before a cheaper, faster, passively cooled card comes out.

[evilsponge]

Any word on a HD4850 version? I'm sure I'm not the only one wonders as it's a popular "value card"
Any idea of pricing?

-sponge

[Utnorris]

Been asking for weeks if the 4850 would even be an option. Still no answer.

[nysulli]

jesus man, you guys need to calm down a little, I'm sure the man has bigger things to tackle at work then hop on here and respond to every pm he gets, like make sure the blocks are getting made and push forward on the development of future products. you guys honestly sound like my companies shareholders that demand an update everytime a company so much as contacts us to potentially design an application for them, and those people bug the hell outta my bosses

the block will be out when its out, he said end of this week, maybe thats just shipping from swiftech, might take a few extra days to get blocks to vendors and for them to add them to inventory

[evilsponge]

Utnorris I agree it would be nice to get an answer so those of us that have these cards can decide to either wait or move on with another solution I assume Utnorris your are crossfire so there is x2 sales right there

-sponge

[evilsponge]

Hey nysulli don't take this the wrong way but with out your share holders you would not have applications to develop. Let me put it this way water cooling is a niche market with allot of players looking to take market share. In this economy where the disposable income dollar pool is drying up at least for some, being customer centric is all the more critical. I'm not saying gabe is not customer focused but people in the forum represent people from all over the US and we have some from Europe we are all potential swiftech customers which translates to significant dollars for swiftech. People are asking really simple questions that could be answered quickly I imagine one or two lines saying hey there is a delay hang in there and yes we have plans for a HD4850 version or no we do not. Then people can either choose to wait or pursue one of swiftech's fine currently available offerings or look at solutions from the competition. There is a great book that really shows what quality and customer focus is all about it's called "The ice cream maker" check it out if you get a chance.
http://www.amazon.com/Ice-Cream-Make...4901485&sr=1-1

-sponge

[gabe]

sorry guys 2 bz to pamper mail box. new pdcts out, all kind of details 2 tend 2, see new post "MCRES Rev2 & fill-ports are out".

4870X2 "full cover" heatsink is in production (late) - I expect release 1st week of Nov, in conjunction with the release of a new and real fancy water-block for it; both solutions will work with the heatsink, I mean 2xMCW60, or the new Caldera (that's its name) two-core water-block. We couldn't do an extrusion on this heatsink (as we did for the GTX280, which is really low price), so its entirely CNC'd here in the good old US of A. it's a pretty high budget item, but so is the X2, and I don't think (correct me if I'm wrong) that the X2 is going to be obsolete anytime soon.

MCW60-4870 single core with heat pipe: out for release next week. they are in assembly.

GTX280 "full cover" heatsink - Early November. My early sample is on a super Vista rig I built for the occasion, and the card is OC'd at 740/1300 running 21k scores on 3DMark06 all day long.

Head over to our site to check out the MCRES rev 2 :-)

[evilsponge]

Hey Gabe,

So no MCW60-4850 version then?

Thanks,
-sponge

[gabe]

Hey Gabe,

So no MCW60-4850 version then?

Thanks,
-sponge

man, was rushing out of the office to go see kids Halloween party and remembered about that, so came back to edit my post, and you beat me to the punch!

The new MCW60-4870 is not 4850 compatible.

BUT the MCW60 stock fits right on out of the box. Just add a few ramsinks (MC14) for the memory and MC21 for the mosfets, and you are in business for about $70 total. Considering that the 4850 is a low cost solution to begin with, therefore catering to consummers on budget, I am not entirely convinced that an expensive full cover solution is justified for this card [opening discussion for severe beating on the head, or elsewhere ]

[ward0]

sorry guys 2 bz to pamper mail box. new pdcts out, all kind of details 2 tend 2, see new post "MCRES Rev2 & fill-ports are out".

4870X2 "full cover" heatsink is in production (late) - I expect release 1st week of Nov, in conjunction with the release of a new and real fancy water-block for it; both solutions will work with the heatsink, I mean 2xMCW60, or the new Caldera (that's its name) two-core water-block. We couldn't do an extrusion on this heatsink (as we did for the GTX280, which is really low price), so its entirely CNC'd here in the good old US of A. it's a pretty high budget item, but so is the X2, and I don't think (correct me if I'm wrong) that the X2 is going to be obsolete anytime soon.

MCW60-4870 single core with heat pipe: out for release next week. they are in assembly.

GTX280 "full cover" heatsink - Early November. My early sample is on a super Vista rig I built for the occasion, and the card is OC'd at 740/1300 running 21k scores on 3DMark06 all day long.

Head over to our site to check out the MCRES rev 2 :-)

the adapter kits for the mcw60 will be ready by then aswell?

[evilsponge]

Fair enough thanks Gabe now go enjoy your kids!

-sponge

[Utnorris]

Well, I guess that means XSPC or EK for me then. At least I know now. And as far as the HD4850 as being a budget unit, I don't think people buying 2 for CF, which out performs a single HD4870, a GTX260 and in some cases the GTX280, really consider it a budget setup. I may be wrong, but there have been a lot of reviews touting the advantage of the HD4850 in a CF setup. Personally, I feel if you can/are going to make a not full cover water block solution that is lower cost than a full water block solution you should have considered the HD4850 also. No problem, as I said before, at least I know now.

[Blazing fire]

sorry guys 2 bz to pamper mail box. new pdcts out, all kind of details 2 tend 2, see new post "MCRES Rev2 & fill-ports are out".

4870X2 "full cover" heatsink is in production (late) - I expect release 1st week of Nov, in conjunction with the release of a new and real fancy water-block for it; both solutions will work with the heatsink, I mean 2xMCW60, or the new Caldera (that's its name) two-core water-block. We couldn't do an extrusion on this heatsink (as we did for the GTX280, which is really low price), so its entirely CNC'd here in the good old US of A. it's a pretty high budget item, but so is the X2, and I don't think (correct me if I'm wrong) that the X2 is going to be obsolete anytime soon.

MCW60-4870 single core with heat pipe: out for release next week. they are in assembly.

GTX280 "full cover" heatsink - Early November. My early sample is on a super Vista rig I built for the occasion, and the card is OC'd at 740/1300 running 21k scores on 3DMark06 all day long.

Head over to our site to check out the MCRES rev 2 :-)

Thanks for the update! Can't wait to voltmod it.

The second revision res: http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...d.php?t=205750

[nysulli]

good news to hear gabe

and evil, I realize their the only reason I have a job where I do, and how my company can develop new applications, which is why my company posts monthly updates on our website, and updates our major stock brokers and shareholders when something major happens, but when you have 3700 shareholders its impossible to give daily updates to every single person that owns 1000 shares (which is kinda like all of us expecting daily updates and PM responses from gabe) Just the fact that gabe comes on here to answer questions and give updates every few days is great, I'm merely looking at it from the other side of the coin, because I've seen what the other side of the coin looks like, it isn't easy, so it rubs me a little the wrong way when I see people complaining that gabe isn't getting back to them within a day, if he took like a week to get back to you, then I could understand the frustration, but a day? give the man a little time, thats all I'm saying

[gabe]

here is a pic of the final production item, and for those who enjoy the innards, one of the chrome plated copper base plate.

more info will available upon final release next week, including the price :-)

[Blazing fire]

You sure the aluminum isn't in contact with the coolant? The matrix pin looks like aluminum.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...2&postcount=20

water-cooled copper plate is one piece; it covers GPU, memory, and forms a manifold for the heat pipe. Common parts with the MCW60 are housing, hold-down plate and back plate. With the copper plate representing the majority of the product cost, there is little point setting up an upgrade path.

The key advantage of this solution is specifically to take advantage of the low housing cost (inj. molded).

oh, and one more thing: no aluminum in contact with coolant. sorry I forgot to mention this detail.

Also, you claim the performance of the block is identical to the revision 2. Could you kindly send a sample to martin to ascertain this please?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...89&postcount=1

This is a pre-release announcement for this upcoming product due for release early October 2008. The application uses a hybrid water-cooling & heat pipe cooling solution, which is an industry first in the field of VGA cooling. GPU cooling performance will be on par with the MCW60 Rev2 (using the same Pin Matrix Technology). This simple, yet effective design is expected to be reflected in the product street price.

Thanks!

[gabe]

You sure the aluminum isn't in contact with the coolant? The matrix pin looks like aluminum.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...2&postcount=20



Also, you claim the performance of the block is identical to the revision 2. Could you kindly send a sample to martin to ascertain this please?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...89&postcount=1



Thanks!

the product has been released on our web site. Head over to the product page for specs, that will answer all our questions

http://www.swiftech.com/products/mcw60-4870.asp -

Shipping to retail channels next week (online store will also be updated early next week) .

Martin is a busy guy. If he wants to test a sample I'll be happy to send upon his request. No point sending if he doesn't have time for testing.

[Blazing fire]

Thanks for your prompt reply! I shall inform him of this.

[.Logic]

Here you go! Post #42, dated 10-17-2008 (Month-Day-year), friday, 06:32 AM. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...0&postcount=42



Therefore, we should expect it to be on sale on 10-26-2008, Sunday 23:59 latest

Talk about mounting pressure on the poor guy...

Come on, give him a bit of a break. I'm sure he's fairly anxious to get them out too, after all, only then can he start earning money from them

EDIT: And reading above my post (like I probably should have done in the first place ) we see that in fact he did come through. No worries.