The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[kup]

Ahh. I getcha. The exact model number is F2-8500CL5D-4GBPI.

[InfinityNX]

Hi, I'm insanely new at overclocking with the Maximus Formula. I was wondering if anybody has the same hardware as I do, since I really want to get a 4ghz stable on my proc.

Here's my specs:

Intel Q9550 C1 stepping
Asus Maximus Formula
Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2x1GB ddr2 800mhz

CPU and NB is watercooled.
SB is passively cooled.

If you need any other info, please don't hesitate to ask, I really need help. I don't get how the settings on the Extreme Tweaker work :| thanks guys!

help please

[Grnfinger]

help please

What have you tried so far?

[Zucker2k]

I use Memetest Pro I like it and it seems to be acurate.
Havent tried my G.Skills at 1132MHz with the revised relax timings yet, going to today.

Try these settings for your G.Skill @ 1132; you may have to give it 2.14v - 2.20v.

Primary: 5-5-5-15-4-52-8-4

Secondary: 8-3-5-4-6-4-6

Tertiary: 16-6-1-6-6

There's no noticeable impact on performance

* What revised relaxed timings?

You can further enhance overclock by this:

5-5-5-15-5-55-10-5

8-3-5-4-6-4-6

18-7-1-6-6

[Zucker2k]

Final 4.0GHz 24/7

Seems my kit of G.Skills cant handle 1132MHz so have to settle on the Mushkins for now till I can afford a kit of G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI

Those everest read and copy numbers look very low, what PL? Running PL7 here.

[Grnfinger]

Try these settings for your G.Skill @ 1132; you may have to give it 2.14v - 2.20v.

Primary: 5-5-5-15-4-52-8-4

Secondary: 8-3-5-4-6-4-6

Tertiary: 16-6-1-6-6

There's no noticeable impact on performance

* What revised relaxed timings?

You can further enhance overclock by this:

5-5-5-15-5-55-10-5

8-3-5-4-6-4-6

18-7-1-6-6

My current stable ram settings

FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1132
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 350ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 350ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 65
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 10
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 16
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

I will try your suggestions, and thanks

[JCGhz]

GrnFinger what are your bios setting for your e8600 on your x38, im stuck at 4.4, on my maximus formula(does 500 FSB+)youve been a great help in this thread so far.

[Grnfinger]

Try these settings for your G.Skill @ 1132; you may have to give it 2.14v - 2.20v.

Primary: 5-5-5-15-4-52-8-4

Secondary: 8-3-5-4-6-4-6

Tertiary: 16-6-1-6-6

There's no noticeable impact on performance

* What revised relaxed timings?

You can further enhance overclock by this:

5-5-5-15-5-55-10-5

8-3-5-4-6-4-6

18-7-1-6-6

Sadly they did not work, still running Mushkin.

GrnFinger what are your bios setting for your e8600 on your x38, im stuck at 4.4, on my maximus formula(does 500 FSB+)youve been a great help in this thread so far.

Post your current 4.4 setup

[JCGhz]

Post your current 4.4 setup

My Bios setup or just system?

Here's my System
Maximus Formula-1207 Bios-
E8600 820A324-Lapped 4.4Ghz 1.4v Under Load 1.425 in bios
My Load temps after 12 Hours Prime-61c
I could only do 4330 before lapping. I can post 4.5 and even game w 1.4v but no Prime or Othos stable.
TRUE 120 Dual 120's Push Pull-Lapped
2x2GB GSkill PC28000

[JCGhz]

the rampage bios wouldnt let me reach 500fsb but i had better superpi with it. So im back to stock.

[Grnfinger]

My Bios setup or just system?

Here's my System
Maximus Formula-1207 Bios-
E8600 820A324-Lapped 4.4Ghz 1.4v Under Load 1.425 in bios
My Load temps after 12 Hours Prime-61c
I could only do 4330 before lapping. I can post 4.5 and even game w 1.4v but no Prime or Othos stable.
TRUE 120 Dual 120's Push Pull-Lapped
2x2GB GSkill PC28000

bios setup please

[RCG_Bex]

Wheee - running 4.2Ghz the now - got 4.3GHz booting and stable but its a tad high for my liking... tried 4.4GHz again for lolz but not stable enough for screenshots ro anything

~Bex

[InfinityNX]

Grnfinger

This was my setup for my 3.6 overclock (which was the max I could get, still unstable)

CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [8.5]
FSB Frequency [424]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [Auto]
PCIE Frequency [110]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [848MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [12]
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [42]
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Strong]
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [1.38]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage [1.61v]
DRAM Voltage [2.20v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.54v]
South Bridge Voltage [Auto]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]

[Talonman]

Just use my template above and change teh multi to 8.
run 8x450 or 425 and your pretty much safe to boot/install.

Will do.. Thanks for the reply.

I do favor using a 400 FSB Strap to the North Bridge, but is the multi Ratio CMOS Setting, or Common Performance Level?

Not sure wich one to make 8.

[Grnfinger]

Will do.. Thanks for the reply.

I do favor using a 400 FSB Strap to the North Bridge, but is the multi Ratio CMOS Setting, or Common Performance Level?

Not sure wich one to make 8.

ratio cmos setting

[Talonman]

Thanks..

Going into 308 with my Q6600 and these settings:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : whatever your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.35
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger

This was my setup for my 3.6 overclock (which was the max I could get, still unstable)

Use Prime small fft's to test cpu only first.
Your ram unlees its the older BT's will not be compatable with this board and you will experience alot of difficulties using it.

So I will concentrate on cpu only for now.

CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
FSB Frequency 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge 333
PCIE Frequency 100
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency 901
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time 15
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time 55
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister moderate
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage 1.40 ( start here and adjustments can be made later)
CPU PLL Voltage 1.50
North Bridge Voltage 1.51
DRAM Voltage [2.20v]
FSB Termination Voltage 1.40
South Bridge Voltage 1.050
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.65x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage 1.50

[InfinityNX]

@Grnfinger

I think they're the old BT's (they're double-sided)

[InfinityNX]

@Grnfinger

Tried the BIOS setup you gave, but it didn't boot. I increased the CPU voltage from 1.4 to 1.45 then 1.50, but still, same problem. I think the problem was with the RAM, since the BT lights didn't even light up for all boot-tests. Any other advice you can give?

Thanks for your help btw.

[Factotum]

What do you think about it:

If Vcore>1.4xxx - i get this after some time runing prime.
if reboot after that - i get Det-Ram. Time losses depends from the Vcore
prime don't write error, continuing indefinitely to handle the same stage

[les_paulde]

My current stable ram settings

FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1132
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 350ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 350ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 65
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 10
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 16
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Grnfinger, you da man! With your settings I can finally push my G.Skills above their 1066 limit, am currently running them at 546Mhz. Thanks for your help!

As this is fully memtest86 stable, I'm going to try and push them some more and tighten up the timings. I will post my final results once I'm done, but I was just wondering what voltage people here have put through their G.Skills without breaking them? Here I've seen 2.2V being mentioned but it seems a bit high for these sticks no? Currently I'm at 2.11 real and as I have a fan running over them, I am willing to go up a bit more...

[WaterFlex]

les_paulde
Use MemTest 3.7. It is much more harder than MemTest86+.

[les_paulde]

Thanks for the tip waterflex! this is the windows based version where you have to open a couple of instances in order to test the full 4Gb right? If so then i should be all good as I've been using a combination of the two: first memtest to get an initial feel for the stability of the overclock without risking to corrupt any windows data, and then the windows-based memtest in combination with prime blend to fully confirm stability.

Another benefit i guess is that you can fine-tune your settings while staying in windows using memset, to then quickly check it without having to reboot. I reckon this can really speed the whole process of overclocking up alot.

[Durkadurka]

I've ran my setup for quite some time now, and it has been rock stable.

Now, I decided to get another 2x2GB of Mushkin Xtreme Performance RAM for 8GB total.

However, I can't seem to get it stable at all.
I've tried upping NB volts, DDR volts, FSB termination volts but doesnt seem to work.

Currently running BIOS 1004.

In theory, what values should you bump when going from 2x2GB to 4x2GB filling all slots?
I've also tried different setups for RAM settings.

Does anyone have a setup with a QX9650 that works with 8GB of RAM at 4 GHz ?
If so I would like to see your Extreme Tweaker settings to get an idea.

Would changing the BIOS to ie 1201 work better with a 8GB setup?

[kup]

Rampage Formula arrived. Q6600 @ 480MHz FSB Prime Blend/Linpack stable with 1.44v vNB (random voltage picked to just start me off, will lower it soon), 1.6v vPLL, 1.25v vFSBT, 2.096v vDimm. PL7 1:1 atm. This board is nice.