Nehalem-EP......BLOOMFIELD

[Drwho?]

I would think the smarter way to play this would be to leave turbo mode on, and consider the multi as always n+2 when calculating what the final clock will be.

This allows you to still make use of the intelligent clock scaling up and down in periods of loading and not loading for power efficiency.

As far as reviews go. I believe that any reviewer that is looking at the platform for stock ability comparisons should leave the features to default to show consumers the out of the box performance of the platform.



And exactly, unlike the FSB, the speed of the reference clock has no direct impact on overall performance of the platform. With FSB overclocking, quite often, a lower CPU multi and higher FSB speed can hit the same CPU clock, but speed up data transfer across the bus (providing you aren't switching to a looser strap or Trd as it's called nowadays).

Here, there are no performance gains for moving the reference clock other then fine tuning CPU/Mem/QPI speeds between multipliers that fall on either side of a stability zone.

You will get more frequency on the extreme edition if you do not push too hard the frequency multipliers inside the dice. it is why you want to increase the stock clock as part of the mix. I am going into much details, but it is about clock distribution over the dice area.

[Movieman]

I read thru this thread and some of what you people know amazes me.
I always thought I was pretty good with hardware but with some of the people here I feel like a toddler in Kindergarten..

I have a question for you Dr. Who;
Will the Gainstown systems also have the ability with the 3200EE's to OC or will they be locked?

[Drwho?]

I read thru this thread and some of what you people know amazes me.
I always thought I was pretty good with hardware but with some of the people here I feel like a toddler in Kindergarten..

I have a question for you Dr. Who;
Will the Gainstown systems also have the ability with the 3200EE's to OC or will they be locked?

I am not allow to speak for Gainstown ... it is my Buddy Larry who is in charge of this server/workstation, I can't speak for his plan ...
sorry

(You always ask question I can t answer ... lol )

[Movieman]

I am not allow to speak for Gainstown ... it is my Buddy Larry who is in charge of this server/workstation, I can't speak for his plan ...
sorry

(You always ask question I can t answer ... lol )

That's ok, You answer honestly and thats all that matters.
So,ahh, what's Larry's telephone number?
Now I want you to understand that there's this 56 year Old guy sitting in New Hampshire that is dreaming of an 8 core gainstown running 16 WU at a time on WCG at hopefully a speed of 4000mhz so that explains my constant questions..

[JCornell]

I have a question for you Dr. Who;
Will the Gainstown systems also have the ability with the 3200EE's to OC or will they be locked?

Gainestown 3.2GHz Rev.C0 ES was released

[Movieman]

Gainestown 3.2GHz Rev.C0 ES was released

You just are bound and determined to give me heart failure aren't you!

[JCornell]

You just are bound and determined to give me heart failure aren't you!

You don't know what it's feel when I saw 1 board with 4 sockets CPU's

[Movieman]

You don't know what it's feel when I saw 1 board with 4 sockets CPU's

Dunnington? I may get one of those to review but a dual Gainstown intrigues me more..
In my office is a quad socket system.. Not exactly current tech but in it's day this sold for $21,000.00
http://www.supermicro.com/products/s...0/SYS-8050.cfm

[JCornell]

Dunnington? I may get one of those to review but a dual Gainstown intrigues me more..
In my office is a quad socket system.. Not exactly current tech but in it's day this sold for $21,000.00
http://www.supermicro.com/products/s...0/SYS-8050.cfm

Yeap, not for common users ...
I can't test it too, not our product, just saw they tested QPI at our Lab.

Will review Gainestown new C0 when the time comes

[Blauhung]

You will get more frequency on the extreme edition if you do not push too hard the frequency multipliers inside the dice. it is why you want to increase the stock clock as part of the mix. I am going into much details, but it is about clock distribution over the dice area.

Something about signals between CPU/MEM/QPI being out of phase at higher multipliers? Or simply overworking the clock distribution circuits?

[Drwho?]

Something about signals between CPU/MEM/QPI being out of phase at higher multipliers? Or simply overworking the clock distribution circuits?

Less try to formulate it in simple words ... The statement below is true since the 486DX2, up to Core i7:

The frequency multipliers have their own limits, signal gets less clean when you get to very high ratio, this is physica laws... then, when the clock become "less square signal" , its propagation become less effective, detection of 1 or 0 become less accurate on the other side of the dice.
Over the years, Intel invented many many ways to avoid the side effects, the high frequencies of Pentium 4 generation pushed the limits. I am not allow to discuss those details here, but just understand that pushing the frequency of the base clock and increasing the Turbo ratio will give much better result than just increasing the Turbo ratio (plus TDP limit).

We got to keep the secret sauce of our processor secret ...

[Movieman]

Less try to formulate it in simple words ... The statement below is true since the 486DX2, up to Core i7:

The frequency multipliers have their own limits, signal gets less clean when you get to very high ratio, this is physica laws... then, when the clock become "less square signal" , its propagation become less effective, detection of 1 or 0 become less accurate on the other side of the dice.
Over the years, Intel invented many many ways to avoid the side effects, the high frequencies of Pentium 4 generation pushed the limits. I am not allow to discuss those details here, but just understand that pushing the frequency of the base clock and increasing the Turbo ratio will give much better result than just increasing the Turbo ratio (plus TDP limit).

We got to keep the secret sauce of our processor secret ...

Good explanation.
The question then becomes to what point will the turbo mode still allow increases assuming we cool the hell out of the cpu and I am still talking air and water.Let's face it, your cpu's are excellent but the stock HS leave something to be desired and I am not bashing you or intel, just stating a fact.
Lets assume for the sake of arguement that I can keep that cpu under 50C at full load. At that temp do you think or know if a sustained 4000mhz is possible?
I know, another tough question but the easy questions we already know the answers to!

[Booj]

DrWho? Can you say anything about cold bugging with Nehalems? Hopefully the guys from the overclocker mag asked you that hehe.. If you can't say anything, fair enough. Your posts in this thread have already revealed much. Thanks for stopping by

[Drwho?]

DrWho? Can you say anything about cold bugging with Nehalems? Hopefully the guys from the overclocker mag asked you that hehe.. If you can't say anything, fair enough. Your posts in this thread have already revealed much. Thanks for stopping by

answer is OC mag coming ...

[Movieman]

DrWho? Can you say anything about cold bugging with Nehalems? Hopefully the guys from the overclocker mag asked you that hehe.. If you can't say anything, fair enough. Your posts in this thread have already revealed much. Thanks for stopping by

The chips WILL run cold, very cold..

[Drwho?]

The chips WILL run cold, very cold..

it uses the same process technolgy as Penryn,plus some improvements ...
so, i let you guess

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We did make sure that the PCU does not get in the way of Extreme OC
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