Intel Q9450 vs Phenom 9850 - ATI HD3870 X2

[JumpingJack]

Yes, isn't that obvious? Intel dominates the cpu market. i7 will help AMD to show more of it's advantages. Intel knows that the performance on core 2 architecture can’t be increased that much more.
If you run a lot of applications concurently this will be one area that amd runns well if you need more speed now

Well, I was being sarcastic... but a question... how can being so far behind on the performance curve be an advantage?

I am done with this.... ... I have lead you to water, I cannot make you drink.

Deneb and i7 will be out soon. Intel' pretty much enjoy's a 10-30% performance lead over K10 clock for clock pretty much across the board, this is clear from the data ... your persistence to completely ignore or reject all the data and conclude completely contradictory to that data firmly labels you as a blinded AMD fanboy. This is hopeless, there a more of your type around the net than what people can shake a stick at... and, frankly, the only one on this board this far out in left field of make believe.

Be prepared, Intel's current lead will be extended over Deneb it will not be pretty. Some preliminary info has leaked both on Deneb and Nehalem, Deneb will need to do much much better than what has been shown to be competitive. Remember this when you look for the first set of reviews comparing these two ... also, remember, Nehalem at the core is still the core microarchitecture.

Frankly, I am worried... it is not in my best interests for either company to fall this far behind the other. I am hoping Deneb has more juice than what is currently being shown.

[highoctane]

I am done with this.... ... I have lead you to water, I cannot make you drink.

Hell you threw him in the middle of the lake and he still couldn't figure out he's surrounded by water!

I applaud your efforts JumpingJack, I'm sure there are many here that gained a much better understanding. Even though most of us understood what you meant from early on the other 15+ times you tried to break the topic down into laymans terms was not in vane, we where with you over and over again.