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[Kingcarcas]

Great, you can answer my question about GPU folding under XP, how much CPU usage does it take? If it takes one whole core you're out of luck and won't be able to run SMP until you move to Vista.

[DeanZ]

Well I decided I'm gonna give it a shot (I lurk in here too much not to)

There are too many computers in my house just sitting there doing nothing so might as well do something with them

the only problem is I got a nice quad but all the cores are sitting at 25%...when I'm not doing anything I want it to run close to 100%...any ideas on that

[Sparky]

What client are you running on your quad? Just be aware that in task manager processes tab 25% on a process means it is taking up a whole core on a quad. Four threads at 25% then is 100% CPU usage. That tab treats it as CPU usage not core usage. Performance tab shows each individual core load.

[DeanZ]

Im using 6.22 beta2 for MPICH...the weird thing is I have it installed on my dual core laptop and its shwoing 4 fahcores loading in the process tab and 100% on both cpus...my quad is showing 4 FahCore_82 processes with only one using the cpu, the other 3 are showing 0% cpu usage...under peformance the total cpu usage is hovering between 25-28%

[Marvin_The_Martian]

DeanZ you're running a single instance client it seems, try adding -smp to the advanced configuration options as desribed in the setup guide.

Stop the client, run it with -configonly flag, change the advanced options to include the additional client parameters: -verbosity 9 -smp

Delete qeue.dat and your entire work folder, restart the client. Install fahmon to monitor the client, and report back what project you got

ps. If you want to be a 'good boy' you can finish the wu, but it's their fault for making this client act this way so they should take the deleted wu's as their own doing imho.

[Sparky]

I agree, if you download the SMP client then you kind of expect it to run SMP units from the get go.

[Kondik]

Nice day guys, one question.

I'm wondering ... X48 board , if I buy another GTX280 stick in in the 2nd slot without SLI [ ofc X48 doesn't support it ] Will I be able to run 2 GPU clients ?
Also, I'm running one SMP client on a quad but it loads all 4 CPU's on 100, can I run two SMP's or one will cripple the other and the PPD will go down.

Thanks [ Wait's for SparkyJJO shocking monkey stick that will hit him for garbadging his threat ]

[Sparky]

ZZzzAAAaaappp!!!


No actually this isn't my thread, and mine is meant for OT so I wouldn't hit ya with it....

You have to run in non-SLI mode to fold on two GPUs anyway, so I don't see why it wouldn't work. And if you are running Vista it shouldn't affect SMP too much, it may drop it a little bit but more than make up for it from the GPU. Just don't mix and match GPUs in the same system, that makes things get grumpy.

[hutkikz]

Well I've been folding for a couple weeks on the base client(6.20) and its been working good. so today i'm trying to set up on the smp client(6.22). uninstalled 6.20 and installed 6.22 run install.bat enter user/pass and it says fail, so I try run as admin and it pops up then disappears. could use some help figuring this out. using sig rig

[WFO]

Well I've been folding for a couple weeks on the base client(6.20) and its been working good. so today i'm trying to set up on the smp client(6.22). uninstalled 6.20 and installed 6.22 run install.bat enter user/pass and it says fail, so I try run as admin and it pops up then disappears. could use some help figuring this out. using sig rig

I see you are using Vista 64. Did you get the right client? One works on 32 bit only. You need the MPICH version...

http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandeg...-SMP-mpich.exe

[hutkikz]

thats the one I have but, I uninstalled and used your link to be sure, no diff

[Sparky]

You have to disable UAC in Vista to allow SMP to work right.

[hutkikz]

That was it. Thought I had but apparently I was wrong.

[Sparky]

I got tripped up by disabling it but didn't restart the PC right away. Oops.

[hutkikz]

well now maybe I'll get more than 300 ppd. next up the gpu client, can it be run on crossfire?

[DAK1640]

GPU's need to run independently...aka no crossfire or SLI

[Sparky]

ATI GPU2 doesn't play as nice with the SMP client either I found out. Somehow running it on my rig (Q6600 @ 3.2GHz and ATI 4870) dropped my SMP PPD super low, like, lower than the PPD of my old opteron 165 @ 2.8GHz! I don't understand how. And it was really unstable too... ATI's client needs more work

[hutkikz]

oh well, Thanks for everybody's help

[DeanZ]

so its now running at 100% on all the core...i didn't do anything different...don't understand why but whatever its working...Fahmon was very annoying to set up and they need better instructions (don't click on the work folder click on the larger folder) and finally...GPU's rock the socks off CPU's point wise lol

and finally orthos stable, OCCT stable and Prime 95 stable mean nothing compared to folding stable...had to back off 100mhz but whatever 3.6 is good enough

so i'm off to install on the other computers in my house

btw does the gpu client work on mobile...i got a 9600m gt in my laptop that i wouldn't mind using

[Sparky]

Yes it works on mobile, if you get some modified drivers for it. I don't know the details on that. The thing is, I'd be worried about heat unless you can crank the fan full tilt while running GPU client.

[Kingcarcas]

Damn right, that's why i don't waste too much time in Orthos or OCCT Glad to have you guys on board Doesn't make much sense to spend so much on computers and have it just sitting there

[Marvin_The_Martian]

ATI GPU2 doesn't play as nice with the SMP client either I found out. Somehow running it on my rig (Q6600 @ 3.2GHz and ATI 4870) dropped my SMP PPD super low, like, lower than the PPD of my old opteron 165 @ 2.8GHz! I don't understand how. And it was really unstable too... ATI's client needs more work

It probably had affinity issues, you know it takes a whole core ( give or take ) and 4 threads running on 3 cores, when they need to sync every x time I'm not surprised they get problems

Go bugg Ati and Mike houston on the folding forums

Yes it works on mobile, if you get some modified drivers for it. I don't know the details on that. The thing is, I'd be worried about heat unless you can crank the fan full tilt while running GPU client.

+1 I do not recommend folding on a lappy gpu UNLESS you mod your cooling.

[DeanZ]

I got the basement computer up and folding now too

oh and folding on the laptop GPU was definatly a no-go lol...I learned my lesson in under 5 minutes

btw is there any sort of chart that will show what certian cpus and gpus will average?

[Marvin_The_Martian]

I got the basement computer up and folding now too

oh and folding on the laptop GPU was definatly a no-go lol...I learned my lesson in under 5 minutes

btw is there any sort of chart that will show what certian cpus and gpus will average?

It's linked in the 'deals thread' first post

[Rise]

can I use my GPU & CPU to fold at the same time? If so, how?

CPU & GPU in sig