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    Ouch, ouch, oh please don't hate me. It really hurts my feelings.

    Quote Originally Posted by dejanh View Post
    @dnottis - don't fall into a pointless argument, especially not with flame baiters. Quite frankly whether 4870s are or are not defective will always be looked through the eye of the beholder. Those whose cards work will say that they are the best thing ever and those whose cards do not will say that they are utter POS. 4870s as it is now have some problems, but I would say that maybe the problems are nothing but a result of poor QC on the part of ATI manufacturers...anyway with time probably most of these issues will be sorted out as new hidden revisions of cards are released and/or factories are changed.

    In general, I am personally against buying anything that is new to the market. Sure HD 48xx series cards are pretty good, but they are also too new and time is needed to flush out the bad batches and botched production runs. If it was ATI that made these maybe this would not be a problem, but ATI did only design the RV770. In any case, I think the buyers now have very tough choices to make.

    Adding to the problem for the buyer now is that there is really not much differentiating between ATI and NVIDIA products ATM. When the HD 48xx series cards first came out sure, but not any more. Now that GTX 260/280 prices have fallen in line (can be found as low as $240/$370 for slightly OCd versions) even the price/performance for ATI is nothing to to boot. Basically, we are back to status quo where either manufacturers' cards are a good pick.

    ATI moved to 55nm sooner, but their first try at RV600 was not very good. They had time to refine things and they came out all guns blazing to put out the cards based on RV770 (basically much beefed up, lessons learned RV600). NVIDIA is now doing a first try at GT200 which did not turn out to be all that hot so they are revising it. Expect them to come back firing on all cylinders with the introduction of their die-shrunk 55nm GT200 cores.

    However, no matter which offering you are looking at what is important to remember is that you are just replacing one DX10 card with another DX10 card which will in turn be replaced by another DX10 card in the next 6 months or so...is any of it really worth it?

    @Blkout and other trolls, this is not a trolling forum so go troll elsewhere.
    I've been a registered member here since 2005, you just registered a few months ago. Troll?

    Quote Originally Posted by insurgent View Post
    I wasn't talking about the first card but the second modified one, I'm not an idiot you can spin around with your "facts". I'm not blindly defending ATI, I'm just not buying your underpowered, overheating VRMs theory until we see more supporting data, if the defects are widespread and proven whoever is at fault will be held responsible, but if it's only a small number of random cards it will be dealt with warranty/RMA like always.
    He'll continue to spin the fact and leave them out as needed to bash ATI because of his own mistakes. I read one post at another forum where someone was having a driver issue and he replied saying he had to RMA two 4870's. Never once mentioned WHY he had to RMA them or the facts behind the RMA's such as flashing the BIOS and modifying the stock cooling. It's BS posts like that, that spread FUD, and he knows it.

    Quote Originally Posted by dnottis View Post
    How many more times do I have to point out my first card died stock?????????? Lets make it 10 now.
    And of course, everyone should simply take your word for it since you've been so honest about everything else.

    I thought I would point out that you actually have 2-3 replies now to your "Dead 4870" thread. Of course none of them agree with you, but you can read it for yourself.
    Last edited by STEvil; 09-07-2008 at 03:15 PM. Reason: quad-post...

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