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    Quote Originally Posted by LagunaX View Post
    Why are you using Coretemp? It reports temps 10 c hotter that actual due to incorrect thermal junction measurement for 45nm cpu's.

    Use Real Temp and be happy.
    I was using the latest version, which the author said was updated to reflect the correct Tj.Max of 100c, see here: http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/history.html

    I also set the same value in Real Temp, and both programs give the same results.

    So it seems to me that Real Temp does not have the correct Tj.Max values by default...

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    Hi guys,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geebs View Post
    I was using the latest version, which the author said was updated to reflect the correct Tj.Max of 100c, see here: http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/history.html

    I also set the same value in Real Temp, and both programs give the same results.

    So it seems to me that Real Temp does not have the correct Tj.Max values by default...

    Official Intel Specs here: http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SLB9L



    Intel spec for 45nm dual core is 100 you are correct - that was just released a couple of days ago.
    So I guess tj.max is off by 5 c in RealTemp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LagunaX View Post



    Intel spec for 45nm dual core is 100 you are correct - that was just released a couple of days ago.
    So I guess tj.max is off by 5 c in RealTemp.
    If you change the Tj.Max value in Real Temp, do it's results then match the results from the latest coretemp?

    Also, are your Real Temp readings calibrated?
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    Updated to RealTemp 2.75. TjMax set at 100 for both. Corellating now. Guess you got a hot or concave chip. Mine idles 38-39 now I guess lapped at 1.328v.
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    Man there has just got be something wrong with the DTS's on some of these chips. There is just no way I can believe a chip running on .2 volts + can run cooler than my chip at 1.1875 volts.

    WTF did Intel bother giving up the specs to monitor the DTS when it "wasn't intended to report idle temps"?

    I don't have any other way of monitoring my temps other than Core Temp or Real Temp.

    What a load of bollocks
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    Quote Originally Posted by LagunaX View Post
    Updated to RealTemp 2.75. TjMax set at 100 for both. Corellating now. Guess you got a hot or concave chip. Mine idles 38-39 now I guess lapped at 1.328v.
    LOL I am jealous You have some nice temps there...

    What are the chances i get 2 hot chips? Unless this series is FUBAR... anyone else have an Q820A405 running real hot???
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    I understand that the retail e8600's run a little hotter than the ES but here is my e8600ES lapped chip on an unlapped washer mod TRUE @ 1.36v idle:
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    Quote Originally Posted by LagunaX View Post
    I understand that the retail e8600's run a little hotter than the ES but here is my e8600ES lapped chip on an unlapped washer mod TRUE @ 1.36v idle:
    Ahh sure Laguna, rub it in why don't ya lol

    I have my BIOS set to shut the pc down if the cpu reaches 75c, and guess what happens when I run the Intel Burn Test? BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP....

    I am going to send this one back as well. I am absolutely furious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icecpu View Post
    My E8600 why so hot, @ 4.23Ghz with vcore 1.256 CPUz
    idle : 43C - 50C , depending what time during the day
    load : 68C - 75C , again depending hot day or cool day here in northern california .

    and my TRUE was lapped and washer modded and reseated , the same hot result.
    What series is your E8600? It's not a Q820A405 by any chance?
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    Where you buy yours at Geebs?
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    Reverted to stock default settings - idle temps are still the same 35 c for me - that's lapped cpu and with a TRUE - so I guess it would probably idle 40-45 unlapped on a stock cooler.
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    You making me Jealous (LagunaX) as i have to wait till Tuesday at minimum for my E8600 ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastNotro View Post
    Where you buy yours at Geebs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LagunaX View Post
    Reverted to stock default settings - idle temps are still the same 35 c for me - that's lapped cpu and with a TRUE - so I guess it would probably idle 40-45 unlapped on a stock cooler.

    My cpu isn't lapped, but my TRUE is, thanks to your help and links... And I also have the washer mod going. I can only imagine what i would be at with the stock cooler...

    Why do you suppose there's such a difference in vID's? I have seen other report 1.25v on theirs... I didn't think there could be so many different revisions of the same chip so soon.

    Regardless, hell, even quad cores don't idle as high as mine. I can't even stress test mine without exceeding the max temp.

    I know it's prolly a stupid question, but I'm grasping at straws here... do you lot have thermal management enabled in the BIOS? Or C1E? I do not, nor have I ever...
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    ALL those settings on that are Disabled .. except of course the Multiplyer.

    Check my template to see if you have similar options in your Bios (on your mobo) as what i have disabled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastNotro View Post
    ALL those settings on that are Disabled .. except of course the Multiplyer.

    Check my template to see if you have similar options in your Bios (on your mobo) as what i have disabled.
    It all looks good... thanks for the help though

    You have a lot of variables in that BIOS of yours.. lol I ain't that advanced
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    When overclocked some vids report as 1.25v - as in my overclocked screenshot above - but in my post above on default stock settings you seen my vid is 1.1 on my e8600es chip. So others may not have 1.25 vids.
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    I notice one thing about the E8600
    The lower the vid is the hotter the cpu
    My is v1.1750, one too hot of a chip
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    Quote Originally Posted by icecpu View Post
    I notice one thing about the E8600
    The lower the vid is the hotter the cpu
    My is v1.1750, one too hot of a chip
    What batch number is yours icecpu?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geebs View Post
    What batch number is yours icecpu?

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    Just picked up an E0 E8500 Q822. Won't be here till later this week though. Will post results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icecpu View Post
    I notice one thing about the E8600
    The lower the vid is the hotter the cpu
    My is v1.1750, one too hot of a chip
    Mine's max VID is 1.20V and it gets hot as hell. WAY hotter than my old C0 E8400. I've got a lapped TRUE, but have not lapped the chip itself.

    I mena it is perfectly happy and stable at 4.4 @ 1.328V, but it runs HOT.

    One thing I've noticed is there has been NO degradation whatseoever with this E8600.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brahmzy View Post
    Mine's max VID is 1.20V and it gets hot as hell. WAY hotter than my old C0 E8400. I've got a lapped TRUE, but have not lapped the chip itself.

    I mena it is perfectly happy and stable at 4.4 @ 1.328V, but it runs HOT.

    One thing I've noticed is there has been NO degradation whatseoever with this E8600.
    No degradation ..... yet ... you mean as it is too some to tell ..... give it 3-4 weeks and we will see.

    I hope not as mine will be in Tuesday .. i hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastNotro View Post
    Nice but VID does not MEAN Current Vcore ... unless at STOCK cpu GHZ.

    It took you 1.38 Vcore to get that Overclock.

    Nice OC by the way, but like many have stated/claimed ..... stay around 1.20-1.24v to avoid degradation of the CPU.

    So that means somewhere around 4.2-4.3ghz .. but again there is no guaranttee that it won't degrade either at those volts, but it more plausible that it won't.
    1.24 would be playing it safe. Even Intel's recommended max voltage is 1.36, I believe.

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