New Bios For M3A32-MVP Deluxe

[kazgirl]

Wow...yoou really did get lucky with that 9850 chip, majority of Phenoms can at most get 3.3Ghz on a SB600 mobo, and that at high voltage.

I've only been able to get a measly 2.9Ghz stable on mine with on water, 3.5 on air is really nice to see..

Can you run some benchies, nothing major just a 3Dm06 and 3DMark Vantage performance run...

Would love to see some compare URL's as well....!!

I wish my Phenom would get to 3.2GHz, heck I'd settle for 3.0Ghz stable at the moment...

Very very lucky with your chip.....but nice to see its capable...!!!

I'd love to see what you could get with water cooling as well... it would drop your temps about 10C I think compared to what I saw going from air to water.... ...now if only I had a chip that could OC to benefit from the water cooling... .. well maybe one day...

[digitalwanderer]

I just want to hit 3Ghz stable on this 9900 so bad that it hurts my teeth, that's my goal.

The amount of speed improvement I see with the R700 and overclocking is just amazing. Just taking it up to 2.85Ghz again I see huge jumps in numbers.

[HondaGuy]

Kazgirl:
I would like to go with H20, whats your input on what I should be looking for.

[kazgirl]

Kazgirl:
I would like to go with H20, whats your input on what I should be looking for.

Hi..

Well as a total newbie to water I started off with a Thermaltake Big Water 745 Watercooling Kit, which I picked up off ebay brand new in box for approx £55.00....

I have since moved on from that and ended up modding up my own kit, a lot depends on what you want from it... i.e.

Do you want it all contained in/on the PC, or can you have some parts mounted or sitting externally to the PC etc...

For me the aestheticcs were quite important, but my case wasn't large nough to acocomodate all the different components (radiators, reservoir, pump, fans etc) so I ended up making an external box to house the radiators reservoir, fans, pump etc... there's a link to a slideshow of the modded version I made in my sig... if you want to have a look...!!

I think that most people will recommend that whether you go for internal or external etc, that you buy uindividual parts and combine them together to get the best performance....

A lot will then come down to availability, budget, and personal preference ( loud fans, quiet fans, space limitations, etc..etc..

And also some components depend on the others on what you can or should get... for example.... when I made my external box, I chose the XSPC reservoir and pump unit as it had both included in one small package that I could easily work aorund for the enclosure box.... but then I later found that the pump in this case is relatively low pressure, which then meant that I had to get a low restriction waterblock... I had origianlly planned to get a new Swiftech GTZ block, or an EK Supreme, but these had a high restriction design which needs a higher pressure pump to maintain a good flow, so because of the pump I already had, I was restricted in my choice of waterblocks already.... I could have added another pump in series with the one already, but I was budget limited as well.....

Anyway you can see the restricitions and dependancies that I mean..... a lot will depend on your preferences/budget and requirements....

As a starting point though I'd think of getting:

Pump: Laing DDC 3.2 and XSPC top approx. - £50.00-£60.00
Waterblock: EK Supreme/Swiftech GTZ - approx. £40.00-£50.00
Radiator: Thermochill PA120.2 - approx £50.00
Reservoir: A nice bay reservoir - approx £20.00-£30.00
Tubing and Barbs and Fittings expect to pay another £30.00-£40.00

For a total of approx: £200.00

You can shop around and get cheaper than the above however, which is where budget comes in.....

i.e. There are XSPC radiators that are avaialbe for approx 1/2 the price of the Thermochills and similar for the other parts as well, but you may prefer to pay for the best now rather than look to upgrade in a few months time, I'm already looking at getting a new pump and better waterblock.....LOL..

Though at the moment my pennies are being saved for a new 790FX/SB750mobo, the ASUS M3A79-T, and then for a 4850X2/4870X2, then a Deneb so it'll be some time now before I make any changes to water cooling again.... at least I hope not.....!!!

[HondaGuy]

Thanks Kazgirl, right now Im looking at a THERMALTAKE PW 850I PRO WATER COOLING SYSTEM.

I took a look at the link nice mod...

[MrMojoZ]

Please don't purchase Thermaltake water cooling gear. The water cooling forum here will help you start out with better parts, no need to bother with buying TT parts and having to replace them all.

[kazgirl]

Thanks Kazgirl, right now Im looking at a THERMALTAKE PW 850I PRO WATER COOLING SYSTEM.

I took a look at the link nice mod...

Please don't purchase Thermaltake water cooling gear. The water cooling forum here will help you start out with better parts, no need to bother with buying TT parts and having to replace them all.

Hi HondayGuy..

I agree 100% with wath MrMojoz says here, the Thermaltake kits aren't very good alue at all, they are OK as an introduction to watercooling, but it will not be long before you feel the need to improve on it....

I mnetioned the TT kit I bought as a newbie to water cooling to emphasise how much of a mistake it was, and that I really needed to change things afer a while...

I'd avoid the TT kit to be honest, and as MrMojoz says theres a great forum here at XS for watrter-cooling, with much more experienced fols who can offer much better adviced than I can ever hope to...LOL..

If you are considering water-cooling then it would definitely be worth your while spending a little time reading thorugh some of the posts there...

[HondaGuy]

Thanks for your input!!! I will read some post here and see what others are working with

[@@@@]

just wana give you some motivation the best they could do with a phenom cpu at -25C is 4.0 Ghz i think it was with Ln2

you are reaching 3.5 on air alone though I would not suggest you stress your rig until you get a proper Water Kits

swiftech has been the most recommended in this forum maybe you could give it a try

nice OC by the way

[HondaGuy]

Thanks @ @ @ @...... I have stressed it once and temps were up to 67 at 3.5.....

[TheBlueChanell]

Some Pics....OK I pushed this chip alittle more @ 3.5 now

I'm a little confused. You're running 3.5 on a SB600. Say you purchase the Asus M3A79-T, based on what AMD says you're going to be able to hit 300+ mhz over what you had with ACC. That would mean about 3.8ghz or have you basically hit the wall on your CPU even with SB750/ACC. If not that 3.8ghz is a pretty nice overclock. Have people been consistently getting 300-400mhz over what they had?

[HondaGuy]

Yes I am running 3.5 on a SB600.....M3A32-MVP not A79-T

[Final8ty]

Just picked one of theses up as my DFI is dieing & i could not wait any longer & the 10 stage PWM

[gOtVoltage]

HONDAthanx again,,

New my Everest was old
My max is below...Keep on top of your ASUS bioses..See if they have C1E setting. My new TA770 Bios did and it stabalized my power states..I can use 1.7volts now
Keep it aroun 1.66v-1.68v .
@1.72 Mobo hates me when i do that.



KAZGIRL,, Phenom cooling suggestion..

Im running a single 655 pump with a Dtek fusion and two Bix3's with 86 cfm panaflows. These are two row rads with 1/2 tygon ..I use the Swifty mini res..

Little heads up on Tripple rads under a $100bucks for Nice cooling.

Swifty's for sub $60range and The Bix3's for arond $70 .Ive found that the Bix3's perform better on HIGH TDP heat disapation than the Swifty's with medeim to high flow fans. While using Low flow fans there about the same performance wise because MEDIUM to HIGH flow fans is what Thicker rads need like the BIX'3 and TFC.. Ive tried Both Swifty and Bix's and get More water flow with the Bix3's(due to two row circulation)..The Bix's Hold More water and are two row vs one row and will disapate heat better when the volts go up...

Swify 320 and 655 pum here( a smaller pump can be used but recomend the 655 for a single or two tripples CPU only loop).
http://www.swiftech.com/


Link to B'3 $66each
http://www.dangerden.com/store/produ...&cat=85&page=1



Now New TFC'c that DD has,, they Rock.

The TFC 360Rad ..Special $99 bucks and performs like two tripple Swifty/Bix's..Im upgrading my Bixes to One of these for my CPU loop..Performs like the thermoChill120.3.

http://www.dangerden.com/store/produ...99&page=1#tabs



Link where i get my Hose, pumps,tubing W/B's ,EK fittings and miscalaniouse stuff.

http://www.petrastechshop.com/watercooling.html..



My buddy just installed one with a Dtek and 655. It performs as good as my two Bix'3s because it flows twice as good and is almost twice as thick as the BIX3.

This will be the first $100rad ive ever decided to grab..The PA120.3 is $150 and this is very close to it flow and performanc wise i believe..

Ive used swifty's No dout there great budget Rads usually 50 each. I picked up two Bixs for 56each a while back on special. The reason i went to Bix was beacause the Swifty dindt cool as good with mediun to high fans and They are kinda thin compared B3's .Swiftys flow with one row of fins is identical compared to Two rows with Bix3 and TFC .


Swifty's and or Bix'3s are both great depending on what your planing on doing..Also depends on the room you have in your case or on it.My main thought is if your gonna go for a medium OC ,, go with Swifty's ,,but for HIGH TDP overclocking the Bix3. I will be getting the TFC once i find i nice new case for cheap..My friends Pc cools like mine with just ONE ,,but he is also running Intel.

My Phenom 9950 @ 3.5ghz//NB2660+mhz = 1.66vcpu and 1.55vNB
Now this is verycool for NONCHILLED System and why i can Clock so good trust me.

[kazgirl]

Hi thanks for all the great info on the water cooling components.... I'm on a tight budget at the moment though, being unemployed and disabled, things are kind of tight...

My cuurent upgrade path is a SB750 mobo next, then a Deneb, possibly a 125W 9950BE , in between, this is between now and say Feb 09, then after that I'll be able to look into adding onto the water cooling, then probably around May-Jun 09, will be time to look at new gfx again.... then Aug-Sep 09 will be CPU/mobo/RAM upgrade time again.....LOL.

But I defintiely want to try and get a better pump before long, and next year will need to improve the rads as well.... at the moment with my budget I was stuck with getting budget and have 2 x XSPC RS240's in series, with 4 x 120mm fans on each rad in a push/pull config (1500-2800rpm fans on a fan controller) normally run the fans at 2000-2100rpm approx.

Again because of design and budget constraints and my own lack of knowledge at the time, I have an XSPC dual bay reservoir/pump combi (hence the need for a better pump).... I really need to improve the flow with a better pump, and wil lbe looking to get one asap, money permitting....

Thanks for the info though, really appreciated.

[QuietIce]

Hopefully I'll have time this weekend and early next week to update the BIOS and put it on water.

Can't wait to see what it might do with better cooling. Medium-grade air just isn't cutting it
but a Fuzion and a couple of HCs ought to do the job ...