EK Supreme - Correct Orientation??

[Martinm210]

FYI,
I tried the right side inlet vs left side outlet and got worse temps again. For whatever reason mine is working best left side in, right side outlet. Why there is even a difference I don't understand. It might have something to do with the accelerator plates not being lapped flush and being slightly tilted. I was tempted to lap my nozzle plate, but I'm not doing anything until I get the "As Shipped" testing done.

I was suprised about the orientation differences as well, mine was really poor when the wrong way...about 4 degrees or so average core and the highest core was almost 7C worse. Differential between cores was also huge when wrong.

[twwen2]

I lapped my accelerator plate...

800/1000/1500/2000/2500

Pics, pics my good man!

[Martinm210]

Pics, pics my good man!

Yes yes, we want a reflection in that baby!!

[NaeKuh]

FYI,
I tried the right side inlet vs left side outlet and got worse temps again. For whatever reason mine is working best left side in, right side outlet. Why there is even a difference I don't understand.

ROFLROFL

now you see why this little block has kept me so busy? Every way you rotate it, you get different temps. And i dont mean slight variances either.

Blah im gonna have to flip it again, and see if that does anything.

[Martinm210]

ROFLROFL

now you see why this little block has kept me so busy? Every way you rotate it, you get different temps. And i dont mean slight variances either.

Blah im gonna have to flip it again, and see if that does anything.

Try just flipping the nozzle plate and see what that does.

There is a little slag left behind from the lazer cutting and they are not cleaning the bottoms very thoroughly. This is apparent when you examine the seating of the plate when it's apart, the plate will actually rock back and forth a little bit. This could potentially be favoring flow on one side vs the other and it may not have anything to do with the actual top inlet location. Lapping the plate might take care of the difference is what I'm speculating..

[NaeKuh]

martin when you test my cuplex can you also rotate it 90 degree's and see if it makes any difference.

[Martinm210]

martin when you test my cuplex can you also rotate it 90 degree's and see if it makes any difference.

Will do...I'll probably be putting that one up soon..

I think I'll be testing waterblocks for the rest of my life. I now have 15 of them...

Some people collect stamps...

[turtletrax]

I lapped my accelerator plate...

800/1000/1500/2000/2500

Me too As soon as I saw the finnish and the slag, out popped the 3/4" sheet of galss and the 1500 grit. Forgot to take pics tho.

Need to pop the block off one more time so I will grab some then

[Utnorris]

I hope you don't mean you lapping the block, wouldn't that take the bow out of it?

Utnorris

[turtletrax]

I hope you don't mean you lapping the block, wouldn't that take the bow out of it?

Utnorris

nah I mean the accelerator plate. I was dull and full of crap from laser cutting, so I lapped it to get rid of the slag and make it purdy

[SaiNRuB]

What mods besides lapping the accelerator plate are you guys doing to the Supreme.

Has there been any news of a different accelarator plate from Eddy?

[Lloyd]

Any chance we could get this sticky? For an easy find?
Thanks guys

[NysoO]

FYI,
I tried the right side inlet vs left side outlet and got worse temps again. For whatever reason mine is working best left side in, right side outlet. Why there is even a difference I don't understand. It might have something to do with the accelerator plates not being lapped flush and being slightly tilted. I was tempted to lap my nozzle plate, but I'm not doing anything until I get the "As Shipped" testing done.

I was suprised about the orientation differences as well, mine was really poor when the wrong way...about 4 degrees or so average core and the highest core was almost 7C worse. Differential between cores was also huge when wrong.

Man this is confusing! I understand that the block should be mounted horizontal like in R3's pick. But is the supreme logo or the EK logo supposed to be upwards / downwards? or is it the accelerator / top that is supposed to sit in a certain way?

[Martinm210]

Man this is confusing! I understand that the block should be mounted horizontal like in R3's pick. But is the supreme logo or the EK logo supposed to be upwards / downwards? or is it the accelerator / top that is supposed to sit in a certain way?

It's probably block specific, you'll have to try your particular block out and see..

[NysoO]

It's probably block specific, you'll have to try your particular block out and see..

Doh! It isn't too fun to re mount the block 3 times to see what orientation the block is supposed to be at. Btw, I noticed when cleaning the block that the nozzle plate sits a bit tight in the base. Maybe that's why a space may occur? Hence giving the block so different performances. Also as said earlier in this thread, there is unevenness at the end of the nozzle after machining/lasercutting. It would be good to know all this before mounting the block.

[Martinm210]

Doh! It isn't too fun to re mount the block 3 times to see what orientation the block is supposed to be at. Btw, I noticed when cleaning the block that the nozzle plate sits a bit tight in the base. Maybe that's why a space may occur? Hence giving the block so different performances. Also as said earlier in this thread, there is unevenness at the end of the nozzle after machining/lasercutting. It would be good to know all this before mounting the block.

Call it tinkering...there's always room for improvement and there's no free lunch..

You think 3 mounts is bad, I've been through over 40 mounts in the past few weeks most of which I had to throw away because of problems..

Practice makes perfect!

[NysoO]

Call it tinkering...there's always room for improvement and there's no free lunch..

You think 3 mounts is bad, I've been through over 40 mounts in the past few weeks most of which I had to throw away because of problems..

Practice makes perfect!

Well you are able to do it on a testbed. It's harder if you have to drain and refill the loop when motherboard and such are mounted in a case.
Props to you though for taking time reviewing all these WC components. It's much appreciated

Edit: Maybe we should have a mounting competition here at the forums? Fastest to demount and remount wins

[Martinm210]

Well you are able to do it on a testbed. It's harder if you have to drain and refill the loop when motherboard and such are mounted in a case.
Props to you though for taking time reviewing all these WC components. It's much appreciated

Edit: Maybe we should have a mounting competition here at the forums? Fastest to demount and remount wins

I'm just mounting in a regular TT armor case. I do cheat though, I've since cut a hole in the back of the motherboard tray so I can swap out backplates and hardware as needed, and I've also install two globe valves I can shut down to minimize the water loss when swapping blocks out. Then all I have to do is run the air out into the reservoir and top it off.

But you don't have to break into the loop to try the left right thing. There is always the inlet and outlet as designed, that's not in question here. We're just talking about which side or orientation the inlet should be mounted. All you need to do is unscrew the block mounting nuts and flip the block around with new paste.

I'm down to just a few minutes and that even using digital calipers to measure spring tension on all four corners...

[NysoO]

if you count refilling and bleeding the loop also, I'd win

andyc

I guess we'll have to find out

But you don't have to break into the loop to try the left right thing. There is always the inlet and outlet as designed, that's not in question here. We're just talking about which side or orientation the inlet should be mounted. All you need to do is unscrew the block mounting nuts and flip the block around with new paste.

Yeah that's really mind boggling. How could that possible affect the performance when the inlet and outlet is always the same?

I'm down to just a few minutes and that even using digital calipers to measure spring tension on all four corners...

Ah man, that's really somethin' somethin' to tell the women: "You know, I'm really fast at measuring spring tension

[Martinm210]

I guess we'll have to find out

Yeah that's really mind boggling. How could that possible affect the performance when the inlet and outlet is always the same?

Ah man, that's really somethin' somethin' to tell the women: "You know, I'm really fast at measuring spring tension

LOL

This is the reason I think it might matter. The heat signature is not perfectly centered on the IHS...it's actually offset a couple of mm or so that's the theory. So there might be some very small advantage to having more flow rate on one side vs. the other... Who know though...it could all just be testing error on our part..

[Lloyd]

If we stickied everything, the whole front page would be a stickey at this point

andyc

no, i know mate. It's just someone earlier in the thread asked for it to be sticky, and no one responded. So i thought i'd ask. np buddy
And since i saw a thread about a dif section for specific advice, i thought i'd ask.
And it seems this has affected seasoned users and noobs alike, so seems like it should be a sticky

[Lloyd]

I'm ready, meet the tripletts





and where they hang out most of the time

You just gotta have fun with it sometimes. Takes the drudge out the drudgery.

andyc

which quick disconnects are u using - colder? Are they the ones that spill a ml or summin? Mine are huge in comparison - i like the ones u are using, have u got a link? (sorry i've been drinking far too much vodka while playing bf2142, lol)

[twwen2]

OMG Andy those triplets are gorgous!

Nice QD's too.

[Waterlogged]

if you count refilling and bleeding the loop also, I'd win

andyc

You just take your ball and go home, no one wants to play with you.

[NysoO]

Andy, man that's cheating! You hear me? Cheating!!