Apogee GTZ

[Xilikon]

Not really. You stick the back plate on the back of the mobo. If the back plate move or fall down, you need to remove the mobo ... And the back plate will not stick well if you change the mobo.

If you change motherboards and cpu like you change diapers, then it's a wise idea to cut the cpu area on the motherboard tray so you can access it without removing the motherboard.

[C'DaleRider]

If you change motherboards and cpu like you change diapers, then it's a wise idea to cut the cpu area on the motherboard tray so you can access it without removing the motherboard.

Quite true.......

But if you are using one mb consistently with various cpus, as I have done with my D-Tek, the sticky won't let go and fall down behind the motherboard all of the sudden. In fact, quite the opposite....it'll stay stuck until you remove it. And this is after half a dozen cpus have been through my motherboard and over a couple of dozen mounts of the D-Tek.

And if you have to change mb's, just by some double sided sticky foam tape...they do sell such an animal...and replace what was used on the first install.

[Xilikon]

I don't even peel off the protective layer on mine and it remain there as long as I lay the case down on a flat surface (I prefer to mount/unmount the block that way so the thermal paste spread evenly ). It will fall if you remove the motherboard for sure but that's not a biggie.

[Repliquant67]

If you change motherboards and cpu like you change diapers, then it's a wise idea to cut the cpu area on the motherboard tray so you can access it without removing the motherboard.

Coolermaster have this system on their new case. I find this is a good idea.
On the mozart tx, it is not possible because I have the psu behind the mobo
I don't undestand why the screws are not fixed to the backplate at first

[Martinm210]

Difference is really big ?
I don't like the system of swiftech. If I have to remove the mobo each time I change a cpu ...

Yes, I saw a couple of degrees, mounts were all over the place without the stock backplate some very bad.

Since the stock mounting mechanism bottoms the screws out, it ensures the block is perfectly straight and that you've mounted with enough pressure.

I would also highly recommend using a large phillips screwdrive to tighten the mounting screws down. It's alot of pressure and not easy by hand, but once you put a screwdriver to use (better yet two of them), the installation is really easy.

While I've never really like mounts that require MB removal, it's worth it on this. Just use the sticky back or some other means to stick the backplate in place and you can remove as needed later without MB removal.

[Repliquant67]

Ok, thanks for your advices.

[xTKxhom3r]

still no results ddaayyuummm how much longer martin?

[Martinm210]

still no results ddaayyuummm how much longer martin?

It'll be a few weeks.

I had to start over on my testing because I couldn't validate/repeat my results of the first round/method any better than about one degree. I learned a few things and decided to throw away all that work, adjust my methods, and give it another try.

It's getting pretty hard to make it much more accurate than the crappy 1C resolution DTS sensors when using them as a measuring insturment.

This new method is going to take a lot longer, so I may release bits and pieces as I get them done instead....we'll see how it goes.

[Eternalightwith]

OMG Martin, you're going to go insane.
You must have a great motivational partner, cause if it was me I'd be crying in my soup right now if I had to start over.

It'll be a few weeks.

I had to start over on my testing because I couldn't validate/repeat my results of the first round/method any better than about one degree. I learned a few things and decided to throw away all that work, adjust my methods, and give it another try.

It's getting pretty hard to make it much more accurate than the crappy 1C resolution DTS sensors when using them as a measuring insturment.

This new method is going to take a lot longer, so I may release bits and pieces as I get them done instead....we'll see how it goes.

[Waterlogged]

*chuckles*

I think Martin's testing bug is sub-consciously getting him to drag out testing.

[skinnee]

I personally think he is just trying to delay his retirement from Testing...

"But Honey, I can't work on the Kitchen Cabinets, I still have a cyclical anomaly with Ambient Temps."

[orclev]

... I still have a cyclical anomaly with Ambient Temps."

I think I saw that in an episode of Star Trek once. Try reversing the polarity of the deflector dish and injecting a tachyon pulse.

[Martinm210]

In the meantime, while we're all waiting on Martin's results, there is some comparison testing here

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=198681

andyc

Yeah, don't wait for mine. Andy has the right setup with the fixed ambients. I'm fighting the fact that I don't have that ability right now in the summer, I need to buy an a/c unit with a thermostat first. I thought I could correct for ambient fluctuations, but I'm failing miserably. I might just have to wait until I can run the heater or break down and buy an a/c unit to control this.

Somehow I don't think the wife takes too well of the "I need to buy a/c so I can do more testing" routine....hmmm have to strategize that one...

[orclev]

Amen,

The UPS guy just dropped off my new CPU. I told him to slow down and throw the stuff off the truck going forward, not to bring it up on the front porch anymore

andyc

The UPS guys around here are harsh enough on the packages as is, I wouldn't want to encourage them. I used to know someone that worked at a UPS distribution center and he used to talk about how they would form lines and just chuck boxes to each other. Not sure if I believe him or not on that one though, as he was known to exaggerate on occasion if it made for a better story.

[Martinm210]

I went down and fixed my ambient problem this afternoon, ready for testing now!!!...

Much much more comfortable in here now too..

[Martinm210]

This is easy........ Hon, i thinks we need some A/C for summer fun

I like that one..

[Waterlogged]

I went down and fixed my ambient problem this afternoon, ready for testing now!!!...

Much much more comfortable in here now too..

+1

That's the exact make/model I have in my bedroom (9x12).

[Martinm210]

+1

That's the exact make/model I have in my bedroom (9x12).

It's a bit noisy, and my ambients sort of sawtooth up and down 2C, but when I take a one hour run and average the ambients, I'm getting a very very nice .3C standard deviation. Not getting any better than that...

No need for any ambient corrections, my testing setup is as good as it's going to get now..

[peterpiper]

Hey Gabe, any ideas when stock is hitting UK Suppliers? waiting on a Pre Order...!

[BulldogPO]

Gabe, are you reading tis thread still? Have you received my e-mail?

[_G_]

Got my gtz last week and just noticed one of the thumb screws didn't get fully threaded.



Think it might cause an uneven mount?

[Martinm210]

Got my gtz last week and just noticed one of the thumb screws didn't get fully threaded.



Think it might cause an uneven mount?

Yeah, that's not right. I'd send the pics to Swiftech and ask if they'll ship you an extra screw. Mine are all threaded all the way to the step, that's what ensures all four corners get the same mounting pressure. In the mean time you could just count turn on all four corners and tighten them as far as that one corner will go in. Or you could try adding a washer about that thickness under the spring to get the same spring tension.

You could get by with it, but I'd let Swiftech know so they can correct it for you.

[bigslappy]

g email them !

[Thomas FJ]

Sorry if it has been explained before, but what does "topographically mapped CPU contact area" means IRL?

I have a GTZ here and the base isn't bowed, as far as I can see, and then my English skills aren't sufficient to understand what else it should mean.
Anyone who can explain it to the daft ones?

Many thanks
/Thomas

[twwen2]

My understanding was that it was bowed. And that's what "topographically mapped" meant.