"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[Blasar]

Today and tomorrow, i´m going to do my final tests to this board, trying the WildstarOCT settings and pushing the volts a little higher and i hope all this issues go away.

If the problem continues, i´m taking the PC to the store where i bought it and if they can´t solve it, i´m RMA´ing it.

Regards.

[CERO]

vNB=1.24

Ambient temp, no more than 23-28*C

Been running p95 large fft for over an hour now and asus probe is reading system 49*C, Kinda scarry, What are max temps for the northbridge?

system temp= PWM, and those are hot, and 49 is nothing to worry about , only the R.O.G. got temp readout also for the NB.

[CryptiK]

Yes I agree that for the memory part this board is acting wierd...
I was using AVEXIR DDR2 667 (7ED22-D9GMH) OC to 1200Mhz with 2.02v rock solid stable.
However when I tried to push further like 1248 it needs massive bump of juice to 2.4v...
Also for the lantency part I got zero bandwidth gain on changing to CAS4 from CAS5 leaving FSB the same. I was wondering if it's a motherboard or BIOS issue and should I RMA this board at once...it's really bugging me

Wow that's a lot of volts for 48 MHz more. Also very odd that there is no gain in bandwidth when using CAS 4 at the same ram and FSB frequency. I'll have to test that on mine.

system temp= PWM, and those are hot, and 49 is nothing to worry about , only the R.O.G. got temp readout also for the NB.

Are you sure that 'system' - pwm temp? I haven't seen anyone mention where the system temp is read from.

All these boards with different serious issues are making me think something is very inconsistent with Asus' manufacturing process - perhaps now the 'deluxe' name is being applied to poorly made, low end boards? I think this is the last 'deluxe' I'll ever buy, and I'm certainly regretting buying the one I have.

I'm not joking when I say my old P5B vanilla could achieve higher ram clocks without massive holes in the frequency range that my current board has. I know it's not my ram, as I have done 1000 - 1300+ benchable on a P5K, with no gaps in the frequency range.

[Blasar]

Hi there!!

I want to thank to WildstarOCT for his advice, i´ve tried the settings he said and the result was a nice boot

The only thing i did, for now, was to lower the CPU voltage to 1.281, and some quick tests with Prime95. Now i´ve left the CPU running Prime95 at the following settings to see if it is rock stable, if so, i´m lowering the other voltages to the minimum asap :

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8X
FSB Frequency: 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 266
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO (defaults to 52)
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: Moderate
AI Transaction Booster: 8
PULL-INS: All Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.281
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.630
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.670
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.36
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: 0.630
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: AUTO
NB Clock Skew: AUTO
CPU Margin: Optimized

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Regards.

[truehighroller]

Hi there!!

I want to thank to WildstarOCT for his advice, i´ve tried the settings he said and the result was a nice boot

The only thing i did, for now, was to lower the CPU voltage to 1.281, and some quick tests with Prime95. Now i´ve left the CPU running Prime95 at the following settings to see if it is rock stable, if so, i´m lowering the other voltages to the minimum asap :

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8X
FSB Frequency: 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 266
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO (defaults to 52)
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: Moderate
AI Transaction Booster: 8
PULL-INS: All Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.281
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.630
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.670
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.36
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: 0.630
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew: AUTO
NB Clock Skew: AUTO
CPU Margin: Optimized

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Regards.

I have my fsb term at 1.22 for my 9450 at 3.85Ghz.

[CryptiK]

^Yes good point, try and lower the vFSB to 1.12v and start from there. The max rated is actually given as 1.15v by intel so if you can stay under that, it would be better for your cpu's health.

[Blasar]

^Yes good point, try and lower the vFSB to 1.12v and start from there. The max rated is actually given as 1.15v by intel so if you can stay under that, it would be better for your cpu's health.

1.15v? For 65 or 45 nm CPU´s?

[ci2kla]

1.15v? For 65 or 45 nm CPU´s?

1.15v for 45nm CPUs
usually default VTT voltage for 45nm CPU is 1.1v as stated in the description column of the BIOS
for 65nm chips I guess it's 1.2v default

[-n7-]

Is this the first one to die on you or?

Yeah, it's worked perfectly till about a week ago.

Have you tried a different psu? Sounds like what happens when a psu dies...check it out before rma.

HX520 & HX1000...both are working fine.

I haven't called them for RMA yet; want to try swapping CPU before completely writing it off.

But i highly doubt my QX6850 died (will swap back to Q6700).

[truehighroller]

Yeah, it's worked perfectly till about a week ago.



HX520 & HX1000...both are working fine.

I haven't called them for RMA yet; want to try swapping CPU before completely writing it off.

But i highly doubt my QX6850 died (will swap back to Q6700).

Hope you didn't inherit my weird issue that I am having which I doubt I think it is just the 9450s getting effected by the cpu margin enhancement bug thing..

[nex-3]

hi,guys you see the newest bios? P5Q-ASUS-DELUXE-1306 ...shut be final

http://rapidshare.com/files/14032630...ELUXE-1306.rar

[Ket]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=3094

Hey tigs stop posting that bloody link on a bunch of forums :p how about instead you tell us where you got that 1603 BIOS from.

Yes.. I have been watching j00! o_O

[Big Lar]

Hope you didn't inherit my weird issue that I am having which I doubt I think it is just the 9450s getting effected by the cpu margin enhancement bug thing..

What exactly is the cpu margin enhancement? Thinking about updating my bios from 803, and I have seen you say something about that a few times, don't need any problems

Larry

[NaMcO]

N/m

[truehighroller]

What exactly is the cpu margin enhancement? Thinking about updating my bios from 803, and I have seen you say something about that a few times, don't need any problems

Larry

It's a new option they added to the BIOS and I think it blew out whatever it controls on my 9450. Apparently there have been other people having issues with it that have 9450s. The other people having issues part came from a level three engineer manager at Asus. They are still looking into it. I can't go above rev 0803 because it won't boot completely to Vista with any newer revision then 0803 it just freezes at the progress screen but, with 0803 and earlier stable as a rock at 3.85Ghz 1.25v.

[RejZoR]

Hm, i have it set to Performance Mode. Not sure what it does but Performance Mode does sound better than just default Optimized :P

[Big Lar]

It's a new option they added to the BIOS and I think it blew out whatever it controls on my 9450. Apparently there have been other people having issues with it that have 9450s. The other people having issues part came from a level three engineer manager at Asus. They are still looking into it. I can't go above rev 0803 because it won't boot completely to Vista with any newer revision then 0803 it just freezes at the progress screen but, with 0803 and earlier stable as a rock at 3.85Ghz 1.25v.

Thank you for that. I just flashed to the new beta and it seems ok so far, have not tried anything special yet, tho I did run Prime Blend for 1/2 hour just to be sure all was at least close to ok.

What I see with that setting, is that while watching Prime, when it was shifting from large to small fft,workers 1 and 3 got the load first, then 2 and 4. 1/3 were actually 1 ahead of 2/4 as to consecutive load. I believe from what I saw that the "Margin" that this setting is, is splitting load on the quad to offset the strain under load. Does that make any sense? At least it appears that way. Will test further this evening to see what gives, and TY again for the info

Larry

[truehighroller]

Mine was ok for bout two weeks.. I had mine set to performance... Your welcome. If that is true good observation. That might,, make sense as to why it stopped working eventualy for me "burnt it out".

[Big Lar]

Its a strange setting and no info on it is a bad thing. I left it in Optimized mode, I will see what gives with it over time I guess.

This is a nice board, but the memory has alot to be desired compared to some other chipsets, but then it really isn't mature yet i guess.

Larry

[WildstarOCT]

Hi there!!

I want to thank to WildstarOCT for his advice, i´ve tried the settings he said and the result was a nice boot

You're welcome, glad it worked out. It looks like you've got a killer Q6600 there. Keep pushing it!

[elsupremo]

Guys, I've got a QX9650 that I've had overclocked to 4.0ghz over the last year on a P35 board. I need a new motherboard, and I'm looking for the same solid overclock (I'm not a benchmarker) on a stable board with a minimum of quirks. Do the 45nm quads do well on this board? Is it a pretty straight-forward board?

[CryptiK]

Hey tigs stop posting that bloody link on a bunch of forums :p how about instead you tell us where you got that 1603 BIOS from.

Yes.. I have been watching j00! o_O

I posted the direct links 1 page back from the one you posted on........
If you quote the post Ti66er linked you too, you get the link addresses that way - that's what we all did.........you don't need to be 'told' per se.......

Here you go if reading back 1 page is too hard

1.) ftp://dlsvr.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5Q_Deluxe

2.) ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5Q_Deluxe

[ci2kla]

Hey another news about memory bandwidth...
I've asked a coo**ler forum's member to perform a benchmark on how CL4 / CL5 affect memory bandwidth...the MB he's using was Maximus II Fomula
and ooooops! The result is just the same as my P5Q-Deluxe: Zero improvement on bandwidth!
I think now it's not only P5Q-D has the problem with D9GMH chips...but also other P45 asus boards...even high end models...bleh
I'll send a report back to ASUS support forums and see how the mods react

[CERO]

interesting..... keep us posted!

[Dalten]

I took the plunge an upgraded to 1306 from 1201. So far no issues. I'm going ensure i'm 100% stable by doing a good 72 hours of prime large fft's (my house gets warm during the day and cool at night, i need a large spread to ensure stability).