EK Supreme - Correct Orientation??

[Lloyd]

Hiya guys,
a friend just asked me if there was a correct orientation for the EK supreme (like when u have a quad plate in a Fuzion?) And i couldn't give him a straight answer (c sig, lol) so i thought i'd ask here, c'mon RRR u must know
TIA
Regards
Lloyd

[evil-98]

this is how i have it mounted

[D-Cyph3r]

I've had mine mounted both ways and seen no difference in performance.

[Lloyd]

@ evil and RRR - are u getting EVEN temps accross ur chip ? Because my mate wasn't getting even temps accross the chip, i said u need to lapp the chip, that was my advice. But as i say i don't have experience with the EK.
Thankyou very much for your input so far

[evil-98]

left its RRR orientation right is how it have it

left both dies share the heat spread, right head is divided down the middle

[Lloyd]

RRR - that's how i would have it, and suggested to my mate. As i looked into one i had (sitting around) and there seemed to be a channel/barrier running in between the EK and Supreme logos almost like it was a built in quad plate (sorry i'm not describing it very well) which would run along this line....

EDIT- Just seen evils post, so there is a kinda quadplate inbuilt?

[IanY]

Its hilarious that you guys can't agree.

Does the manufacturer even have any input in this?

[evil-98]

Its hilarious that you guys can't agree.

Does the manufacturer even have any input in this?

yea i remember eddie talked about it when the supreme was first introduced ill search it

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=391

Hi!

It is very likely that the turning the block for 90° would make a difference.
If you know how the cores are oriented you should turn the block that the channel section covers direct area vver the cores.
See very raw image:

edit:

eddy's super uber raw drawing

[Lloyd]

So maybe mount one way for a dual core and another for quad? Thoughts anyone?

[evil-98]

its worth a try, for a dual core really orientation wont matter

[Martinm210]

Dang, you mean I'm running it wrong!...lol

Seriously I've been running mine with the nozzle slots lining up with the cores or horizontal lake Naeku and R3. I'll have to try it the other way and see what I get...Actually, I'm not sure I can...it might conflict with my NB waterblock..

[Martinm210]

left its RRR orientation right is how it have it

left both dies share the heat spread, right head is divided down the middle

I'll have to make this run out in a fully logged setup, but I'm pretty sure I'm getting very noticeably better temps as shown on the left where the block is horizontal in the case parallel to the slot lever and the nozzle lines up with the cores...

Like this:

[NaeKuh]

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Which is the same way martin and RRR has shown.

And yeah ive tested it. You wont get even temps cuz of the way the EK was designed. It washes the water out on one side not the entire block like D-tek.

So you need the injectors intersecting the cores and not go in the middle of the cores.

[NaeKuh]

LOL,

and that's what messes me up. The way the board sits on my bench is like you have above, where what most people consider the side, is actually the top on my bench. So when I look at my board, and everyone else pics, it confuses the hell out of me.

Thank you for posting that pic, and restoring my sanity,

andyc

yeah i have the same problem too because i have a bench as well.

[Lloyd]

Here are the pics...

Look at orientation of CPU on my MB:






I have not run my CPU hard on water yet. Just ran a few test runs to make sure the MB was still OK after installing waterblocks... I know nthe CPU is oxidized, will be hitting it with 2500 grit sandpaper this week...

Mate, that looks awesome, i can't wait to rebuild rig 1 with those compression fittings (well 3/8" ones anyway)

[Martinm210]

OK, I just ran it like this picture is showing which is vertical on my DFI board, triangle in the lower right corner.

Anywhow, this is the WRONG WAY. I get a solid 7 degrees worse Highcore temps running it that way and about 4 degrees worse average temp.

Don't run it like this.

[NaeKuh]

ROFL....

Martin didnt I tell you that when i mailed you my EK to test the first time?



Also inlet right, outlet left shows some improvement as well vs inlet left outlet right.

:T

Someone can retest that if they want. I didnt have enough time to go in depth on that. I honestly thought it wouldnt make a difference, but i did record some difference.

[Lloyd]

OK, I just ran it like this picture is showing which is vertical on my DFI board, triangle in the lower right corner.

Anywhow, this is the WRONG WAY. I get a solid 7 degrees worse Highcore temps running it that way and about 4 degrees worse average temp.

Don't run it like this.

So the way RRR has it is right then? (sorry it's late and i've drank far too much )

[Martinm210]

So the way RRR has it is right then? (sorry it's late and i've drank far too much )

Yes, follow the pictures that R3 posted. When the lever is locked down this should be inline with the barb orientation.

[Martinm210]

ROFL....

Martin didnt I tell you that when i mailed you my EK to test the first time?



Also inlet right, outlet left shows some improvement as well vs inlet left outlet right.

:T

Someone can retest that if they want. I didnt have enough time to go in depth on that. I honestly thought it wouldnt make a difference, but i did record some difference.

Probably, but you expect me to remember that far back...I have a hard enough time remembering what I ate for lunch today let alone that far back..

Seriously though, I'll have to check out your inlet right outlet left thing. If it works I'll let you know.

Anyhow, these pics explain it all best:

THIS IS THE CORRECT WAY ON A QUAD CORE

Here are the pics...

Look at orientation of CPU on my MB:






I have not run my CPU hard on water yet. Just ran a few test runs to make sure the MB was still OK after installing waterblocks... I know nthe CPU is oxidized, will be hitting it with 2500 grit sandpaper this week...

[Lloyd]

Thanks guys
Much appreciated
You confirmed what i thought, thanks! You guys rock

[Utnorris]

Wow, I thought I had my block oriented correctly. I changed it to the correct position based on RRR pics and got a 3-5 degree drop in temps. That was with me not even redoing my AS5, which I need to go ahead and do. This should be a sticky. Now the question is whether to lap my QX9650.............

Utnorris

[NaeKuh]

Now the question is whether to lap my QX9650.............

Utnorris

norris, ive been telling my friends about that mounting style on the supreme. AS i said when the block first came out, i grabbed one, and then another, and then another.
I Even destroyed 1.

Minus the creators, and probably even them now, i think no one has more on hand hours on the supreme then i do.

It wasnt til reciently that people started listening to me because everyone had fusion envy while i moved on to better things.


Another note, if you guys are gona make custom accelerators, you need to make sure the plate is = thickness to the stock. The reason why i say that is i snaped my custom plate in half trying to pry it off the block. If you taken off the block you'll understand what i mean about prying.

[gxavier]

Oh wow... so for a dual core it's vertical? Will the supreme even fit on most mobo's vertically?

[Utnorris]

It's not that I don't think I will benefit from lapping mind you, it's just taking a $600+ processor to a piece of sandpaper that bothers me. In the end I will need to do it since I must have a really bad IHS. I am getting a 15c gap between my highest and lowest temps on my cores. I have remounted it a couple of times and still get the same or near same results, so I came to the conclusion my IHS was warped. Hopefully lapping it will fix it. Of course the other option is to see if Intel will replace it, doubt it since it is an OEM version. Anyway, again, thanks for the clarification on the orientation, thought I had it right based on the instructions included, but obviously I was wrong.

Utnorris