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Thread: Official HD4870X2 (R700) Review Thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macadamia View Post
    Extremely risky.

    GT260 takes up about the same power as a 2900XT at load, and I don't think the Liberty can handle max load (it's very risky). Only the good 550W stuff is capable of driving a 2900XT on a normal system.

    I suggest going with a single 4850, or get this:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104019

    And you can power up even the X2 without problems.
    That suggestion is a real no no... better go with a higher spec PSU like OCZ 700 gameXtream or co...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cooperdale View Post
    I made 22000+ on XP, 3dmark06. Is that good?
    Think's it pretty okay mate... might need some tweaking, is this with the card at stock speeds... I made almost 24K with 4.5Ghz quad ram at 1200mhz and 8800GTS in SLI in XP...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ether.real View Post
    What CPU? You have beat out my score of 19840, though I am running Vista SP1 on a 3.54GHz quad.


    9650@3.67 GHz.... 20609 3DM06, default, under XP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeghoofd View Post
    That suggestion is a real no no... better go with a higher spec PSU like OCZ 700 gameXtream or co...
    It's definitely not royal power, but some people dislike replacing PSUs at a whim. (Of course, having the right purchase does negate it completely)

    The Booster wasn't meant to supply all 12V+ wattages, just part of it. But I'd say a good main PSU would be a better insurance overall.

    Xello, stick with 8x. You'd be lucky that even half of the DX10 games support that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gosh View Post
    Interesting, a lot of hardcore gamers and enthusiasts were put off by ATI's decision to abandon large monolithic chips but they only make up a small part of the market. ATI should improve the stock cooling solution though.

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    Is there a brand name that is more recommended than another when buying a 4870x2? Or are they all the same(memory chips in particular)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpingJack View Post


    9650@3.67 GHz.... 20609 3DM06, default, under XP

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    Very nice! Time to put the pressure on my quad, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeghoofd View Post
    Think's it pretty okay mate... might need some tweaking, is this with the card at stock speeds... I made almost 24K with 4.5Ghz quad ram at 1200mhz and 8800GTS in SLI in XP...
    Yeah, stock speeds, but the ram is at 1600. The cpu is overclocked via 400x10 multiplier only and some voltage tweaking, not with fsb because I have too many problems raising the fsb with my system right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpingJack View Post


    9650@3.67 GHz.... 20609 3DM06, default, under XP

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    Well then my 22300 are in line with your result, since the cpu is a quad @4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macadamia View Post
    Xello, stick with 8x. You'd be lucky that even half of the DX10 games support that.
    From what i understand it is 8x, just with more filters added for an effective 24x on certain textures or something. The [H] article is quite confusing... Especially since i'm used to NV AA modes, but it seems to imply that the mode will work in everything.

    If i wanted just 8x i'd go for a single 4870
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    i can easily say that by far this would be my best investment for the future, it'll easily run any game at very high settings at any resolution im very happy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xello View Post
    From what i understand it is 8x, just with more filters added for an effective 24x on certain textures or something. The [H] article is quite confusing... Especially since i'm used to NV AA modes, but it seems to imply that the mode will work in everything.

    If i wanted just 8x i'd go for a single 4870
    24x is edge quality. You'll get near perfect edges. Alpha textures are still 8x though.

    It works in DX9 apps that support 8x normal AA (12x for 4x normal only apps)

    In DX10.1 you have the option of specifying AA components so you don't need the brute-forced 24x way (faster, better, eg Assassin's Creed). DX10 apps are a pain in the *** though.

    In most DX10 app cases I'd take the DX9 render path and use fancy AA.

    Crysis DX9 4x + Wide-tent >>>>>>> Crysis DX10 8x
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    Anyone know where I can get the 8.856 betas?

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    Ok, now I know it's a dead horse for some, but others know it's VERY hard to get a real answer on the situation. Ether touched on it in his review, but I'd like to know 100% here, how is the micro-stuttering situation, specifically at 1920x1200/1080. I've heard a million different things from a million different people(never trust a person who only buys one brand, number one rule when it comes to issues with hardware), so I'd like a straight out answer.

    How bad is MS on these cards. I ask because in 1-2 weeks I'm buying a new card(8800GTX sold, guy's picking it up sometime next week). The obvious choices is the GTX-280 or the 4870x2, and the decision narrows down to this one issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DilTech View Post
    Ok, now I know it's a dead horse for some, but others know it's VERY hard to get a real answer on the situation. Ether touched on it in his review, but I'd like to know 100% here, how is the micro-stuttering situation, specifically at 1920x1200/1080. I've heard a million different things from a million different people(never trust a person who only buys one brand, number one rule when it comes to issues with hardware), so I'd like a straight out answer.

    How bad is MS on these cards. I ask because in 1-2 weeks I'm buying a new card(8800GTX sold, guy's picking it up sometime next week). The obvious choices is the GTX-280 or the 4870x2, and the decision narrows down to this one issue.
    It still exist, but the issue was greatly improved compared to the GX2 and 3870x2. Seems like it can only be noticed in a few instances.

    I dont own it, but thats what I've read from reviewers around the web.

    Most people think its not an big deal at all and are very satisfied with the card.

    If you are VERY picky, the GTX280 is looking good for the price. Much cheaper than the hd4870x2 (@ newegg at least). The price difference is kinda proportional with the performance difference tho.

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    Been testing a friend's card for about a week. I haven't noticed any MS at 1920x1200 at all.

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    When I buy a card, it's job is to last a few years. I generally only upgrade when games hit that I can't max out that I want to play, or when I can do so with little to no expense to myself. With my 8800GTX already sold, plus my old A64 parts, the new card is considered free regardless of which one I go with.

    So really, it narrows down to the micro-stuttering, just how bad is it... If it's not too bad at high-resolution(unnoticeable in other-words), then I may once again have an ATi card in my system. As against multi-gpu setups as I happen to be, I can't ignore the performance difference between nvidia and ati this time around, plain and simple.

    Quote Originally Posted by Solus Corvus View Post
    Been testing a friend's card for about a week. I haven't noticed any MS at 1920x1200 at all.
    Nice to hear. Obviously I(as many others would as well) would like as many confirmations upon this as possible.
    Last edited by DilTech; 08-25-2008 at 09:48 PM.
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    My card gives no microstuttering at all at 1920x1200. I haven't noticed any microstuttering in 10+ games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DilTech View Post
    Ok, now I know it's a dead horse for some, but others know it's VERY hard to get a real answer on the situation. Ether touched on it in his review, but I'd like to know 100% here, how is the micro-stuttering situation, specifically at 1920x1200/1080. I've heard a million different things from a million different people(never trust a person who only buys one brand, number one rule when it comes to issues with hardware), so I'd like a straight out answer.

    How bad is MS on these cards. I ask because in 1-2 weeks I'm buying a new card(8800GTX sold, guy's picking it up sometime next week). The obvious choices is the GTX-280 or the 4870x2, and the decision narrows down to this one issue.
    YGPM - hope it helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DilTech View Post
    When I buy a card, it's job is to last a few years. I generally only upgrade when games hit that I can't max out that I want to play, or when I can do so with little to no expense to myself. With my 8800GTX already sold, plus my old A64 parts, the new card is considered free regardless of which one I go with.

    So really, it narrows down to the micro-stuttering, just how bad is it... If it's not too bad at high-resolution(unnoticeable in other-words), then I may once again have an ATi card in my system. As against multi-gpu setups as I happen to be, I can't ignore the performance difference between nvidia and ati this time around, plain and simple.



    Nice to hear. Obviously I(as many others would as well) would like as many confirmations upon this as possible.
    PCGH did a MS test and found that MS only occurs when the average FPS drops below 40FPS, which doesn't happen even at 2560 resolution with 4xAA 16xAF in most games.

    Crysis is the only game where drivers are lacking at the moment. Beyond that, there is little comparison between GTX 280. The X2 is faster than GTX 280 SLI in games at high resolutions and high AA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooperdale View Post
    My card gives no microstuttering at all at 1920x1200. I haven't noticed any microstuttering in 10+ games.
    can you name some please

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsidious View Post
    can you name some please
    The usual: Crysis, COD4, Grid, Dirt, Oblivion, UT3, World in conflict, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Fear, Witcher...

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    I haven't noticed any microstuttering in any games either, (GRID, DIRT, CS:S, Asssasins Creed, so far...) I did notice a lag in the HL2:Lost Coast stress test where it looked like it was building up in the first few secs then flew through the test perfectly.

    BTW I ran GPU-Z last night while playing GRID @ 1920x1200 with max settings and when I quit the GPU cores were all hovering around 25-30% each lol I'll grab a screen if you want. I'm just very happy with this card atm as it should last me till my next GPU upgrade!

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    What would be better ATI HD 4870X2 or GTX260 SLI ???
    Thanx!

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    With vsync always on absolutely no MS here, (my second ati card after the 850 xt, had voodoo1, voodoo2, voodoo3, matrox millenium, geforce 3, geforce 5900, GTX 8800) all on air idle fanspeed 1200 , idle temp gpu1 50, gpu2 70, in action temp is 65 and 86 and fanspeed between 2000 and 2800, tower is silverstone tj-07, MB is Asus P5WDG2 WS Pro, C2D @ 3200, 4 GB RAM, Vista x64, XP and XP x64.

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