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  1. 08-23-2008, 04:35 AM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpingJack View Post

    It is also the phenomena that prompted my reference to Schrodinger's Cat above ... if you are a true geek and want to read more of a generalized 'layman's' book on the philosophy, read In Search of Schrodinger's Cat by Gibbens (I think it is Gibbens, not sure).


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    .... and if you really want to get me going, just mention Schrodinger's cat.
    Forget the box, just swing the cat by the tail at light speed.
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  2. 08-23-2008, 05:13 AM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpingJack View Post
    and if you really want to get me going, just mention Schrodinger's cat.
    Is this the one that is dead and alive at the same time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpingJack View Post
    My favorite topic ... I did my dissertation on similar stuff (not FNT, but just regular old Si) ... the advantage of having a degree in physics -- I understand all the gobbeldeee gooop you find in the IEEE journals ....

    FNT is not quite as critical for a generation or two now that the industry appears poised to switch away from SiO2 ...

    EDIT: Hang tight, I will pull up an STM image of one of my Si(100) surfaces and really get you jazzed .... I own the copyright so I can post it .... and if you really want to get me going, just mention Schrodinger's cat.
    The funny thing here is, you guys talk about it being a bad thing in CPU-land...I work in Flash, hot carrier injection is the primary mode for NOR Flash operation, and FNT is the primary mode for NAND flash operation....they are good things for us, lol....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIOUX View Post
    i feel you
    You aren't the only one.
    When I went to school 'Quantum & Mechanics" hadn't ever been used in the same sentence together..
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  5. 08-23-2008, 05:42 AM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by ether.real View Post
    The funny thing here is, you guys talk about it being a bad thing in CPU-land...I work in Flash, hot carrier injection is the primary mode for NOR Flash operation, and FNT is the primary mode for NAND flash operation....they are good things for us, lol....
    It is the same idea behind using SOI's floating body to make Z-RAM, take a negative and turn into a positive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowRun View Post
    Is this the one that is dead and alive at the same time?
    Yep... this one is a conceptual/philosophical thought process.
    One hundred years from now It won't matter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    You aren't the only one.
    When I went to school 'Quantum & Mechanics" hadn't ever been used in the same sentence together..
    When you went to school, caesar was still in charge of the empire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    When you went to school, caesar was still in charge of the empire

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    LN2 through existing water pipes? just hook it up to the pc and let it flow..

    is there LN2 service i can order?
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  10. 08-24-2008, 03:39 PM #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    When you went to school, dinosaurs roamed the land

    fixed

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    I must do phase on Nehalem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    When you went to school, caesar was still in charge of the empire

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  12. 08-26-2008, 12:21 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    You aren't the only one.
    When I went to school 'Quantum & Mechanics" hadn't ever been used in the same sentence together..
    I just graduated with 4 degrees (one in engineering) and I have now idea what they are talking about. Other than PE, CPA is in my name though so that doesn't help me at all.

    I am getting so excited about Nehalem. The CPA side of me is saying "do not spend $3,500+ on a computer". But the PE (professional Engineer) side is saying "build the greatest machine you can".
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy1323 View Post
    But the PE (professional Engineer) side is saying "build the greatest machine you can".
    If it ain't broke, it don't have enough features yet.
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  14. 08-26-2008, 12:55 PM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    You aren't the only one.
    When I went to school 'Quantum & Mechanics" hadn't ever been used in the same sentence together..
    I just graduated with 4 degrees (one in engineering) and I have now idea what they are talking about. Other than PE, CPA is in my name though so that doesn't help me at all.

    I am getting so excited about Nehalem. The CPA side of me is saying "do not spend $3,500+ on a computer". But the PE (professional Engineer) side is saying "build the greatest machine you can".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polizei View Post
    If it ain't broke, it don't have enough features yet.
    Don't you mean if it ain't broke tweak it until it is?
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    With the two approaches to "how" to design a processor WE are the lucky ones as we get to choose what is important to us as individuals.
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  16. 08-26-2008, 01:45 PM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    When you went to school, caesar was still in charge of the empire

    Yea, but it was Domitian Caesar.. The last of the 11 Caesars..
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