NVIDIA to upgarade GTX 260 in mid-September

[Computerville]

I really hope the GTX 260 V2 are going to get better, and cheaper... ^_^

[Epsilon84]

At load it uses just a little more. With an extra TPC though, use the 260 number + 280 number * 0.5. It's essentially a GTX270.

How do you figure that? Theres a lot more to the core than just the TPCs, and threres a lot more to a video card than just the core. In the overall scheme, one single TPC is not going to account for a big increase in power draw (a few watts perhaps) as all the other components will remain identical to the original GTX260. To get to the halfway point between the GTX260 and GTX280 you'll need to increase the core and memory clocks as well.

[Bo_Fox]

Ok, fine if Nvidia decides to give it the same name, GTX260, that only confuses us---we'll just call it GTX 270, ok? No matter what Nvidia decides, it's about time we decide what to name it. Let's just call this one GTX270 no matter what!

Funny nobody asked.. is it gonna be 55nm or just "pre-binned" 65nm ones that were too defective to be a GTX280? I cant believe that Nvidia is still making those huge monster 65nm chips--I thought those were going to be a lot more limited production given their impractical sizes (and power consumption, plus low selling prices). Remember how limited the FX5800 cards were? And the 7800GTX 512 on 110nm?

[clonez]

hell jeah

that 7800 gtx 512 shortage was hard..
tried to get one, but those prices were insane...

people even started buying dell pcs and ripping the cards out of them (well, nowadays there aint a shortage, just nobody who really wants to buy the cards)

[Katanai]

Well I for one think this will be the 55nm version, if so it would be cool that it's not just a die shrink but also comes with improved performance. One way or the other what do we got to loose? I for one it.

[gojirasan]

They change the hardware without changing the names, they change the names without changing the hardware...

+1.

Whoever does the naming at Nvidia should be fired already. How much more of this stupidity are we supposed to take?

[cowie]

BS i am having crazy problems to make my 4870X2 working normal. I never had those problems with my SLI 260 or single 280......

QFT
me to

anyways thats good mid september,i still have 60-70 days left on my step-up with my gtx+'s hmm.......260+? lol

[SimBy]

QFT
me to

anyways thats good mid september,i still have 60-70 days left on my step-up with my gtx+'s hmm.......260+? lol

Maybe the real problem lies in the user not the card.

[cowie]

maybe idk?i am newish to ati...but w/e
half a screen in SSII i dont know how many times i reinstalled os, game, patches and drivers plus RB6:VEGAS load screen stays transparents thou the game while trying to play. idk?i geuss its just me than.maybe no one else needs new new drivers for the 48x2.
sry bout ot

[natty]

I hope this is not the card benchZowner was alluding to

[WaxCactus]

if thats stronger and costs nearly like HD4870 i would go for it

but we will see, i can just wait for the 55nm

[adamsleath]

gtx 260+ and gtx 280+ i saw someone refer to these labels in some forum.

4850x2 will mix it up i spose.

[natty]

gtx 260+ and gtx 280+ i saw someone refer to these labels in some forum.

4850x2 will mix it up i spose.

the OP doesn't mention 280+, is that also coming out in mid september?

[adamsleath]

no idea; just saying i read someone prognosticating in another forum...

Apparently NVIDIA was simply giving 55nm a test run with the newly released GeForce 9800 GTX+. Now they will implement the shrinkage to their GeForce GTX 280 and 260 GPUs. Expect the clock, shader, and possibly memory speeds to increase. Although the name is still being finalized it is safe to assume it will carry something like the GeForce GTX 280+ moniker.

When ATI releases their Radeon 4870 X2 in mid August they will certainly have one hot product on their hands. Be rest assured however, that ATI will have very tough competition in the high end segment with the release NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 280+ (if that is what it will be called). It has been important to NVIDIA to have a high end product released around the time schools start again. Expect the pricing war to be very fierce right from launch this time around.

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=304489

not really safe to assume anything regards naming..it's just a label, upgraded spec's for gtx260 are interesting though...but hang on, the OP's linked article doesnt mention 55nm...so the tweaked 260 is still 65nm?
>insert sigh emoticon<

[xlink]

why can't they just call it GTX 270?

[Jowy Atreides]

why can't they just call it GTX 270?

because nvidia use a tactic of confusing people to sell older hardware backlogs,
As someone else earlier said; they rename older chips and give logic defying handles to new ones

At first I thought they renamed the 8 series to 9 series for profit solely, but now I can see they were bluffing back then about their future cards
and had to name the 8 series as 9 because they didn't have a 9 series to sell

[natty]

because nvidia use a tactic of confusing people to sell older hardware backlogs,
As someone else earlier said; they rename older chips and give logic defying handles to new ones

At first I thought they renamed the 8 series to 9 series for profit solely, but now I can see they were bluffing back then about their future cards
and had to name the 8 series as 9 because they didn't have a 9 series to sell

that certainly explains the 8800GTS 512 coming after the 8800GTS 640

[natty]

I hope this is not the card benchZowner was alluding to

????

[BenchZowner]

Not really.
Unless you think that this card can compete with the HD4870X2, that's not the card I was talking about.

[Sr7]

because nvidia use a tactic of confusing people to sell older hardware backlogs,
As someone else earlier said; they rename older chips and give logic defying handles to new ones

At first I thought they renamed the 8 series to 9 series for profit solely, but now I can see they were bluffing back then about their future cards
and had to name the 8 series as 9 because they didn't have a 9 series to sell

Sounds a lot like AMD's 2xxx to 3xxx upgrade. Neither offered much of anything new. It was a value generation on both sides.

Why is this type of thing okay for companies like Intel with CPUs (tick tock, architecture, efficiency/shrink) but not for AMD or NVIDIA?

[SimBy]

I don't think Nvidia will have a single GPU card that can compete with HD4870X2 by the end of the year.

Dual GPU, maybe.

[natty]

Not really.
Unless you think that this card can compete with the HD4870X2, that's not the card I was talking about.

Disappointed in you BZ. You said that card was coming 'shortly after 4870x2', 'mid to late august', etc. I'm gonna have to deduct a few credibility points from you. No hard feelings though...

[Chruschef]

.... They aren't really upgrading it at all. the GTX 260, are actually just lower binned GTX280's, so there is no additional manufacturing cost. The price will most likely stay exactly the same.

[Chruschef]

At first I thought they renamed the 8 series to 9 series for profit solely, but now I can see they were bluffing back then about their future cards
and had to name the 8 series as 9 because they didn't have a 9 series to sell

I wouldn't listen to anything you say, not to be rude or mean; but you'd like us to believe the 9800GTX is actually the 8800GTS. Thats the worst conspiracy I've heard in a long time, its not true by fact.

The 9 series is actually the 8 series just renamed and priced.
thats crazy, sure there weren't any big technology jumps, but they're not the same. 9800GTX scores much higher than the 8800GTS

[Tonucci]

GTX260 is already looking good with current prices and OC headroom imo. Further improvements will make it really sweet