The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Grnfinger]

Quick question - does 308 work with the new E8600? Or do I HAVE to go to 407?

~Bex

407 was released to support the new cpus

Hey Grnfinger, any results with your E8600 on the Maximus yet?

I traded it for a 9550 its on my desk now, just dont have the time to play with it, hope to have some screens tomorrow
I have a good shot at a 4.0GHz 24/7 machine so to hell with the wolfdale I had 2 of them they were fun, but I like the power of a quad.

[zlojack]

407 was released to support the new cpus



I traded it for a 9550 its on my desk now, just dont have the time to play with it, hope to have some screens tomorrow
I have a good shot at a 4.0GHz 24/7 machine so to hell with the wolfdale I had 2 of them they were fun, but I like the power of a quad.

Nice. Well, I'm sure you'll be happy either way!

Look forward to your 9550 adventures.

[junkun13]

anybody has OCZ Flex PC2-9600 here? I Can't get 1200Mhz on this board, help

[Grnfinger]

anybody has OCZ Flex PC2-9600 here? I Can't get 1200Mhz on this board, help

post your bios setup please

[Lestat]

anybody has OCZ Flex PC2-9600 here? I Can't get 1200Mhz on this board, help

i have them,, 1200mhz isnt easy with any ram from what i personally have tested. on this board
my gskill 6400 HZ which easily do 1200 on other baords would make the baord not boot if i tried it. i cant make 1200mhz work for nothing.

what volts are you running you do NOT need more then 2.0v for 1150mhz 5-5-5-15. if you do,, sorry you got a turd set. lol.
i run mine at 1.98v (bios reading and DMM )


are you guys talking about going back to the OLD OLD 0308 bios ? or are you talking about a hacked bios ?

[Grnfinger]

i have them,, 1200mhz isnt easy with any ram from what i personally have tested.
my gskill 6400 HZ which easily do 1200 on other baords would make the baord not boot if i tried it. i cant make 1200mhz work for nothing.

what volts are you running you do NOT need more then 2.0v for 1150mhz 5-5-5-15. if you do,, sorry you got a turd set. lol.
i run mine at 1.98v (bios reading and DMM )


are you guys talking about going back to the OLD OLD 0308 bios ? or are you talking about a hacked bios ?

Rampage bios, if you flash to Rampage bios you can get that ram stable @ 1200, I'm quite certain of it.

Clock Skew on a rampage bios is your ram's best friend.
I have the worst set of GSkill ram on the planet and I can them stable at 1135MHz with the proper Clock Skew settings.

[Talonman]

I am getting Flash Fever again. I am still sitting back at Maximus BIOS 1004. I don't flash too often, but I could run my Q6600 faster with lower volts on 907. I have been no lover of 1004, but never opted to update it as of yet.

I have to admit that every time I come back to this thread, there seems to be way more excitement generated for doing the Rampage Conversion. I have resisted so far, thinking it would be best to stick to the BIOS'es made directly for the Maximus SE.

For the first time I find myself thinking Rampage BIOS 308, might be for me.

If there is many of us old Q6600'ers still around, and do you have any strong opinion on the best BIOS to run? (Maximus or Rampage)

[Amurtigress]

Hello,

I hate to admit it, I just can't get my Q9300 stable,
despite my over a decade lasting experiences in overclocking.
Here is my current situation: Most system crashes/freezes are
accompanied by several WMIxWDM errors, Event type 122. Bus Interconnect
error. They occur a few times in a row before the system hangs up.
See bottom of this post for error details

To me this feels like an error on the FSB...it annoys me terribly
that I've got no clue what else could cause this besides the FSB GTL
reference, the FSB termination voltage and the CPU VCore.

My current board is a standard Maximus Formula V1.03 with Rampage BIOS 0308,
running a Q9300 at 3.26 GHz. 4x1 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 RAM

Another question: 1.40V FSB term. volt. are usually being considered the limit
for 45 nm CPUs. Does this refer to the ASUS' BIOS setting, or to the ACTUAL
sensor readings which are usually 0.08V below the bios setting?

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 7.5
FSB Frequency : 436
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-874
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 4

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
...
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

CPU Voltage : 1.25
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.34-1.38
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

The Error from the event log:
(Note: Some of the error entries have all Memory parameters being 0, not 3!)

Event Type: Error
Event Source: WMIxWDM
Event Category: None
Event ID: 122
Date: 13.08.2008
Time: 18:59:13
User: N/A
Computer: KUBLIA
Description:
Machine Check Event reported is a fatal Bus or Interconnect error.
Memory Hierarchy Level: 3
Participation: 3
Request Type: 0
Memory/IO: 3
Address: 0

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 ........
0008: ac e6 56 a2 65 fd c8 01 ¬æV¢eýÈ.
0010: 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 0f 0e 00 30 00 00 00 f2 ...0...ò
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

(rest deleted. All zeroes anyway)

[Grnfinger]

I am getting Flash Fever again. I am still sitting back at Maximus BIOS 1004. I don't flash too often, but I could run my Q6600 faster with lower volts on 907. I have been no lover of 1004, but never opted to update it as of yet.

I have to admit that every time I come back to this thread, there seems to be way more excitement generated for doing the Rampage Conversion. I have resisted so far, thinking it would be best to stick to the BIOS'es made directly for the Maximus SE.

For the first time I find myself thinking Rampage BIOS 308, might be for me.

If there is many of us old Q6600'ers still around, do you have any strong opinion on the best BIOS to run? (Maximus or Rampage)

Anything Maximus after 907 the bios's were geard towards 45nm cpu's
Rampage is a awesome bios, it adds many options to tweak ram and gives better GTL ref for 65nm chips.
308 Rampage is the best imo so far for bandwidth, the recent 407 is mainly for the new cpu's that hit last week 8600 and 9650 ( someone correct me if I'm wrong.)
ZenEffect had his board die on him with a Rampage flash, rma'd it to Asus with the rampage hack still on it and they sent him a new board.
So the warranty should not be an issue if thats holding you back.
I get better clocks and lower volts on the Rampage with my 6600 and 6700.
I would recommend the conversion to anyone it is worth it.

[Talonman]

Thanks for the reply.

I think the next CPU I will jump to is a QX9650 when the price drops low enouigh for humans. Does the Rampage 308 already know how to deal with that CPU, or would that be another flash down the line?

Thanks.

[Grnfinger]

Thanks for the reply.

I think the next CPU I will jump to is a QX9650 when the price drops low enouigh for humans. Does the Rampage 308 already know how to deal with that CPU, or would that be another flash down the line?

Thanks.

I can understand that, I'm in no hurry to sell my Kidney to buy a cpu.

QX 308 can handle it.
I just took advantage of the nice price drop on the 9550, from 599.00 to a resonable 361.99.

[WFO]

Hey guys, I have an odd problem with my Maximus Rampage conversion. I've never had an issue till I decided I wanted an Nvidia card instead of ATI. I've tried 2 MSI 8800GTS cards and 1 Evga 9800GX2. None produce a video signal on my board yet the computer boots. If I wait long enough and enter my PW, I hear the Vista music as it goes to the desktop with a black screen. I put the ATI 1950 back in and no video problem. I took the 2 8800GTS cards and put them in other rigs. 1 an old DFI 965 and the other in a P5Q. Those cards work perfectly on those boards. I haven't tried the 9800GX2 on another board yet because it means breaking down the Maximus Rampage and stealing the power supply or buying another power supply capable of running 2 GX2s and I'm leaning towards the latter.

Any ideas as to why my board hates Nvidia? Anyone else had the problem?

[OVERK|LL]

Hey guys, I have an odd problem with my Maximus Rampage conversion. I've never had an issue till I decided I wanted an Nvidia card instead of ATI. I've tried 2 MSI 8800GTS cards and 1 Evga 9800GX2. None produce a video signal on my board yet the computer boots. If I wait long enough and enter my PW, I hear the Vista music as it goes to the desktop with a black screen. I put the ATI 1950 back in and no video problem. I took the 2 8800GTS cards and put them in other rigs. 1 an old DFI 965 and the other in a P5Q. Those cards work perfectly on those boards. I haven't tried the 9800GX2 on another board yet because it means breaking down the Maximus Rampage and stealing the power supply or buying another power supply capable of running 2 GX2s and I'm leaning towards the latter.

Any ideas as to why my board hates Nvidia? Anyone else had the problem?

That's very strange! I'm running an ASUS 8800GTS 512 with no issues here........ And have run 308, 403 and 407.

[screwtech02]

Rampage bios, if you flash to Rampage bios you can get that ram stable @ 1200, I'm quite certain of it.

Clock Skew on a rampage bios is your ram's best friend.
I have the worst set of GSkill ram on the planet and I can them stable at 1135MHz with the proper Clock Skew settings.

You post your skew settings Grnfinger?? I am trying to get my 8gb stable @ anything over 1100... BTW, just how do you figure the skew settings anyways??

[jakku]

I'm use BIOS 1004 for my E8400 maby another BIOS version is better ?

[CBird28]

hi maximus formula users. Anyone know if an x-fi extreme music is compatible with crossfire

theirs only one pci slot free when 2 gpus are in, which is up the top

[zlojack]

hi maximus formula users. Anyone know if an x-fi extreme music is compatible with crossfire

theirs only one pci slot free when 2 gpus are in, which is up the top

I have my sound card in and it was there when I had Crossfire.

[icecpu]

Just finish finding the 24/7 setting for E8600
didn't get what I expected, it's way too hotter than E8400
I manage to get 4.23Ghz at 1.256v, can't push further vcore, too hot here now in northern Califonia.

[Lestat]

Hello,

I hate to admit it, I just can't get my Q9300 stable,
despite my over a decade lasting experiences in overclocking.
Here is my current situation: Most system crashes/freezes are
accompanied by several WMIxWDM errors, Event type 122. Bus Interconnect
error. They occur a few times in a row before the system hangs up.
See bottom of this post for error details

To me this feels like an error on the FSB...it annoys me terribly
that I've got no clue what else could cause this besides the FSB GTL
reference, the FSB termination voltage and the CPU VCore.

My current board is a standard Maximus Formula V1.03 with Rampage BIOS 0308,
running a Q9300 at 3.26 GHz. 4x1 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 RAM

Another question: 1.40V FSB term. volt. are usually being considered the limit
for 45 nm CPUs. Does this refer to the ASUS' BIOS setting, or to the ACTUAL
sensor readings which are usually 0.08V below the bios setting?

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 7.5
FSB Frequency : 436
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-874
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 4

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
...
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

CPU Voltage : 1.25
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.34-1.38
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

first thing is your NB is WAY too high. you dont need anything more than 1.35-1.4v for NB. 1.6v is just rediculous.

your adjusting all those ram timings and frankly you dont need to your ram is only 800mhz.

set everything to auto. run the ram at 5-5-5-12 2.0v

performance level of 8 is way wrong too.

frankly, your messing with ram settings that are doing you more harm than good considering your ram is only running 800 and some odd mhz....
just disable or set all those extra settings to auto.

Another question: 1.40V FSB term. volt

thats not true FSB term can go alot higher.

0.08v below bios settings ? not sure where you got that. the Maximus OVERVOLTS BIG TIME on ram, NB, VTT and FSB Term. so you should check with a DMM on the baord.


i think someone or something is leading you down the wrong path and your massively overvolting everything or atleast some things and your messing with the ram and trying to make it run way off kilter.

[Houdini]

Oki guys, big problem!

When I booted my computer today, there was no connection to my monitor, mouse and keyboard. My screen just stays black, after blinking analog/digital for some seconds. Furthermore my keyboard and mouse always blinks 5secs after I boot it.

Normally that is not a problem for me, as I just turn off the power completly, until my motherboard is turned off fully, and then it boots properly. And I've done it many times.

But today it didn't! I can still not get any connection to my screen etc.

I've tried to clear CMOS, and have removed the motherboard battery 2 times. 1st time for 2-3mins. Second time for 20mins.

Still nothing!

Can anybody help me please - and quick please!

Sincerely yours!

My system is as showed in my signature - except the HDDS (4x1 Samsung 1tb F1's)

______

This is a copy from my topic in Intel section!

[zlojack]

thats not true FSB term can go alot higher.

0.08v below bios settings ? not sure where you got that. the Maximus OVERVOLTS BIG TIME on ram, NB, VTT and FSB Term. so you should check with a DMM on the baord.

From what I've seen the FSB Term voltage reads as undervolting in bios. I set mine at 1.34 and it reads about 1.24 in bios (again, maybe those readings are off, but the RAM overvolts about 0.08, which is fairly accurate according to what we know.) PLL also overvolts by 0.1v according to the bios.

I haven't checked anything with a voltimeter.

[CBird28]

I have my sound card in and it was there when I had Crossfire.

how close is it from the ram?

[zlojack]

how close is it from the ram?

I just happen to have a pic:

[Grnfinger]

first thing is your NB is WAY too high. you dont need anything more than 1.35-1.4v for NB. 1.6v is just rediculous.

your adjusting all those ram timings and frankly you dont need to your ram is only 800mhz.

set everything to auto. run the ram at 5-5-5-12 2.0v

performance level of 8 is way wrong too.

frankly, your messing with ram settings that are doing you more harm than good considering your ram is only running 800 and some odd mhz....
just disable or set all those extra settings to auto.



thats not true FSB term can go alot higher.

0.08v below bios settings ? not sure where you got that. the Maximus OVERVOLTS BIG TIME on ram, NB, VTT and FSB Term. so you should check with a DMM on the baord.


i think someone or something is leading you down the wrong path and your massively overvolting everything or atleast some things and your messing with the ram and trying to make it run way off kilter.

I do recall the Intel specs stateing that 45nm max FSBT was 1.40.
I think others will confirm this in the E8400 thread I know he has a quad but should be able to get the correct max value there.
4x1GB will tax the NB alot harder than 2 sticks so setting 1.35 might be a little on the low side, I would set maybe 1.45 and work down from there, I also agree 1.61 is insane for NB volts.
PL 8 is high for 1:1 PL 7 or 6 should work but regardless that would not cause his problem. 5-5-5-15 vs 5-5-5-12 offers nothing. Only thing that would/ could tell a difference would be a Everest bench.

[junkun13]

i have them,, 1200mhz isnt easy with any ram from what i personally have tested. on this board
my gskill 6400 HZ which easily do 1200 on other baords would make the baord not boot if i tried it. i cant make 1200mhz work for nothing.

what volts are you running you do NOT need more then 2.0v for 1150mhz 5-5-5-15. if you do,, sorry you got a turd set. lol.
i run mine at 1.98v (bios reading and DMM )


are you guys talking about going back to the OLD OLD 0308 bios ? or are you talking about a hacked bios ?

bios: current

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Setting : 10
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400MHz
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Enabled
Boost Level: 0

CPU Voltage : 2.62v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35v
DRAM Voltage : 1.92v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.24v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : 10
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

when i try to set the fsb strap to 266MHz, DRAM Freq to 1203Mhz, NB volt. 1.55v and dram volt. 2.06 my system wont boot.

is there wrong in my settings? Thanks!